To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[XXX-er]

Dropping acid gives one a powerful lust for grilled cheese ?

[Core Shot]

Never been to a Grateful Dead show?

[XXX-er]

they never made it up narth, I can imagine the problems getting a tour bus full of drugs past the CBS

being a deadhead is one of the things you couldnt really do while averaging 50hrs a week for 30 yars

[MagnificentUnicorn]

whats your position in healthcare

Scrub nurse


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[KQ]

Magnet or Potato? You choose.

[XXX-er]

Is the potato magnetic ?

can you still eat the potato ?

[jono]

can you still eat the potato ?

I think it's required

[Core Shot]

Will it work with a dan Quayle potatoe?

[XXX-er]

The potato lobby should be totally on this shit

[Harry]

The potato lobby should be totally on this shit

Big Potato


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[The AD]

Is the potato magnetic ?

No one knows how magnets works, so the best we can say is: possibly.

[XXX-er]

I almost spit my wine on the screen

but you know I had that hesitancy thing happening eh

[LongShortLong]

Potatoe also works. Just remove the 'e' before eating.

[k2skier112]

Scrub nurse


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so are you advocating for unmasked surgeons?
if so whats the benefit?
this is a current topic for me as i recently had my supraspinatus & infraspinatus reattached
the pre surgery cleaning and prep I was required to do was a little over the top, IMO, compared to what was requested of me 2 years ago for my ACL replacement

[Toadman]

We had a vaccinated employee test positive last week. Our recent in office days had overlapped.

Plus my wife had been flying for work.

So we just both did the Ellume home test.

Damn slick technology: Load app, instruction video, bluetooth connection to analyzer, step by step instructions on app - nose swab, dip in magic liquid, five drops of that into analyzer, 15 minutes for (negative) results. Email & text of results.

A positive result would instantly update national statistics by zip code.

Impressed.

Can't they just scan the chip in your arm from the shot?

I also had a co-worker tell me his wife tested positive. Sounds like a fairly moderate case, with fever, cough and sore throat. But that was last week. Hopefully that was the worst of it. He's self quarantining now. Luckily wasn't exposed to him. I hope he decides to get the shot now. He's in a high risk category too. Trying not to browbeat my anti-vax co-workers but this kind of stuff just makes me SMH.

[PNWbrit]

Can't they just scan the chip in your arm from the shot?

I also had a co-worker tell me his wife tested positive. Sounds like a fairly moderate case, with fever, cough and sore throat. But that was last week. Hopefully that was the worst of it. He's self quarantining now. Luckily wasn't exposed to him. I hope he decides to get the shot now. He's in a high risk category too. Trying not to browbeat my anti-vax co-workers but this kind of stuff just makes me SMH.

As I mentioned the positive colleague was vaccinated. To be allowed back into any of our offices we are required to show proof of vaccination.

Now to go back into that office if you'd been in there the previous 14 days before his positive test... requires proof of a negative.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

so are you advocating for unmasked surgeons?
if so whats the benefit?
this is a current topic for me as i recently had my supraspinatus & infraspinatus reattached
the pre surgery cleaning and prep I was required to do was a little over the top, IMO, compared to what was requested of me 2 years ago for my ACL replacement

I’m not advocating unmasked scrub personnel. A mask is for our protection and they protect the patient if you were to cough or sneeze directly in the wound.

As far as the prep for your shoulder surgery, the bacteria in your armpit is nasty, more so than what you find around your knee.


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[PB]

......
As far as the prep for your shoulder surgery, the bacteria in your armpit is nasty, more so than what you find around your knee.


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Smells own armpit ......... Checks out!

[k2skier112]

I’m not advocating unmasked scrub personnel. A mask is for our protection and they protect the patient if you were to cough or sneeze directly in the wound.

As far as the prep for your shoulder surgery, the bacteria in your armpit is nasty, more so than what you find around your knee.


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I was required to put on clean sheets (and clean cloths, duh) plus spread this shit, hibiclens, on me the night before

PS- On-Q nerve blocks are awesome
PPS-cant my pit germs travel to my knee?
PPPS-armpit masks?!

[MagnificentUnicorn]

I was required to put on clean sheets (and clean cloths, duh) plus spread this shit, hibiclens, on me the night before

PS- On-Q nerve blocks are awesome
PPS-cant my pit germs travel to my knee?
PPPS-armpit masks?!

Hibiclens, chlorahexadine, is pretty standard home pre op prep these days.




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[KQ]

Hibiclens, chlorahexadine, is pretty standard home pre op prep these days.

Yup. I love Hibiclens.

Great for cat scratches and other superficial wounds. Also good if you get bumps from shaving just don't get it in your eye. Obviously I'm not using it on my face but once when I was applying it to my underarm I got a splash that ended up in my eye - not good!

[huckbucket]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/26/u...mid=tw-nytimes

VA now requiring vaccination. You go girl.

[old goat]

Ugh, the most frustrating thing of this entire pandemic: the politicization of personal healthcare decisions and emergency public health management. Fuck 'em.

The issue of personal rights vs societal benefit is a legitimate topic of discussion. It's long been accepted that people can be quarantined or otherwise restricted or required to undergo treatment for infectious diseases. That doesn't mean it will always be accepted. Unfortunately what we've been enduring for the last year plus is not a discussion.

so are you advocating for unmasked surgeons?
if so whats the benefit?
this is a current topic for me as i recently had my supraspinatus & infraspinatus reattached
the pre surgery cleaning and prep I was required to do was a little over the top, IMO, compared to what was requested of me 2 years ago for my ACL replacement

More a question of what's the harm. Just like wearing a mask in a store. Wearing a mask in the OR doesn't bother anyone. Most of us would feel naked without it. It doesn't seem worth arguing over. The problem is that while there is no good evidence that they help there is no good evidence that they don't--so given the low cost and risk they are likely to be around for a while.

Why gloves in the OR? Because William Halsted's scrub nurse (later his wife) couldn't tolerate the carbolic acid hand washing so she wore gloves before she washed. From there the practice spread.

[CarlMega]

Maybe we shouldn't flippantly use the word 'hoax' during a pandemic. Related: dying isn't the only potential negative outcome.

"An Alabama mom who firmly believed the coronavirus was a hoax regrets not getting her family vaccinated after Covid killed her autistic son."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...Rly?li=BBnbfcL

"The mom said that after leaving the hospital she could not drive or work until late May and remains on pulmonary therapy. Carpenter told the paper she is still suffering from fatigue, hair loss and 'covid brain.' "

[bobz]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/26/u...mid=tw-nytimes

VA now requiring vaccination. You go girl.

More of this please. Why isn't my kid's high school doing a vax requirement? This is California. Schools around here have been set up to require MMR and other vaxes since forever. Cut the shit already and do what needs to be done; this isn't Texas or Florida or some other run-by-morons state. Offices: Get the knuckledraggers out of there; they WFH'ed for many months and can do it for some more months if they can't get on board with what they need to do. And let the rest of us breathe even easier. Restaurants and bars: Step it up, because if you don't and numbers come back up, your indoor dining's going to get shut down again (or if it doesn't, people will stay home again regardless).

Oh, and here's Chris Christie, informing us that the snowflakes he speaks for are "willing to be vaccinated... [but don't because] they don’t want to be indoctrinated". Being non-stupid counts as indoctrination these days? I guess it's come to that.