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10-26-2017, 11:12 AM #76
I hope to update to Hakk 8s or 9 this winter but have been using a Federal studded tire on the Subaru. My friend who also drives a Subaru with non studded was blown away by how I was able to drive in the winter.
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10-26-2017, 11:13 AM #77
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10-26-2017, 11:15 AM #78Banned
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I mean even compared to other Subarus..
I think I need a new tack weld on my muffler.
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10-26-2017, 11:51 AM #79
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10-26-2017, 12:52 PM #80
I seem to recall reading that the Nordman line is the beneficiary of the previous model (i.e Hakka 8), but i may be wrong about this.
It's kind of inverted thinking that someone like me (living in the Front Range) would think about studs, due to long, dry spells like those experienced in Durango.
What opened my eyes to this was the harder, longer wearing rubber. Even the R2s gave me a bit more than 35k miles, but getting even more would be better ;-)
Those R2s were the first snows I've run in 25 years (since I started running AWD cars). I was always an all weather/4 season advocate until experiencing dedicated snows.
It's just another one of those risk tolerance things - marginal (if any) cost increase per mile, plus storage hassle in exchange for even more of a safety margin. Its hard to go backwards. Everyone answers this question differently, of course.
Well, that sucks.
... ThomLast edited by galibier_numero_un; 10-28-2017 at 05:31 PM.
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10-26-2017, 01:37 PM #81Gel-powered Tech bindings
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Just replaced my WRG3 tires at almost exactly 60k. Very happy overall, and looking forward to another 60k with the new tires.
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10-26-2017, 02:38 PM #82
How do Hakka 8/9s fare in the last 25% of their tread life? Is the stud effect still useful?
I imagine that studs wear down level with the rubber fairly quickly, and that the rubber compressing is what allows them to "bite' into ice.
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10-26-2017, 03:20 PM #83Registered User
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mostly what happens is the studs all get ripped out of the tire
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10-26-2017, 05:12 PM #84
Last edited by galibier_numero_un; 10-26-2017 at 11:54 PM.
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10-27-2017, 06:55 AM #85
I have a 1996 Honda Civic with a nice body kit, wing, and a really great exhaust. Can I run all-seasons on my 20" rims and still make it to Killington on the weekends without disrupting my neon flow?
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10-27-2017, 08:17 AM #86
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10-27-2017, 08:35 AM #87
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10-31-2017, 06:45 AM #88
check out this hilarious, dramatic vid endorsing the new Hakka 9:
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10-31-2017, 09:31 AM #89Registered User
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^^Nokian makes absurdly dramatic product videos. Reminds me of this one from comcast:
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10-31-2017, 09:35 AM #90Banned
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Doesnt even show the tire in action..
If you didnt see the last 2 seconds of the commercial, you would have no idea its about tires.
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10-31-2017, 09:41 AM #91
LOL, reminds me of Mr. Plow.
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12-21-2017, 12:07 PM #92
Thought about this again while driving in to work -- my neighborhood is covered with packed snow and ice, but 4 miles away and for the entire rest of the drive, it's all totally dry pavement. My General Altimax Arctics on an AWD car are overkill for this.
Some new (to me) tires for passenger cars, with the 3PMSF mountain snowflake rating, but not winter tire compound -- IOW, these are all-seasons with a tilt towards snow effectiveness:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=231
I could definitely see myself using one of these as a "winter" tire, while keeping a 3-season set of tires too.
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12-21-2017, 12:27 PM #93
Hakka 9's mounted on December 9th. Waiting for real snow now.
My biggest concern was noise on dry pavement (fully expecting better ice performance than my amazing Hakka R2's) and they've passed that test. It took me about a week to get used to the funny sound of studs on dry pavement and now it's part of the background and I'm fine with it.
Mini-test on Loveland Pass last week, but nothing really challenging - seeking out a few icy patches and hitting the brakes (seemed fine).
Handling on dry pavement is too close to call with respect to Hakka R2's - similar feeling on my '08 Outback (squishy in comparison with all weather Nokian WR G3's, but that's to be expected with any Winter tire).
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12-21-2017, 12:28 PM #94Registered User
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Nokian Hakka studded in the winter and Michelin pilot super sport during the summer. The only way to go. Takes 20 min to swap them.
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12-21-2017, 12:49 PM #95Registered User
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We had Nokian WRG3 tires on my wife's VW Touareg for year round use. I gotta say they were pretty incredible, those tires got us through some scary storms and were still quiet and grippy in summer temps That car is gone and now both our cars (GTI and Alltrack wagon) wear General Articmax winter tires. Comparing the Nokian "all weathers" with snows is difficult - the all weather tires are just as good in the winter as the dedicated snows. The only rub the with Nokians was the price and the shorter than expected tread life.
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12-21-2017, 12:58 PM #96
I don't doubt that this combo provides great performance in winter, and great performance in summer. The problem is what to do about the shoulder seasons? Early-fall snowstorm while still on PSS? Or swap to studded snows in October, and squirm around in 75* daytime high temps?
I use a so-called "ultra high performance" all-season for my 3-season tire -- cheaper than true summer tires, and won't be terrifying in a freak snowstorm.
My next vehicle will probably be something I can use SUV/truck size tires on, so I probably won't bother with a true winter tire set. Maybe just use a 3PMSF all-terrain and call it good enough.
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12-21-2017, 02:10 PM #97
Yeah, the shoulder seasons are a challenge, and that can encompass 3 months between Fall and Spring. I currently have the Nokian WR G3's for this purpose. I don't know how I'll approach this when the time comes to replace them.
I got incredible life out of my Hakka R2's (37,000 miles, with a LOT of shoulder season abuse). In my experience, the WR G3's are only "OK" in snow when compared with the R2's - very nice for all "weather" tires, but they don't hold a candle to the Hakka R2s.
It's same the old "problem" - once you experience better, you don't go back, whether it's 60mm wide skis or all season tires.
As good as your WR G3s are, I'll bet you'll really love your Arctic Altimax's even more when you get to put them through their paces.
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12-21-2017, 08:41 PM #98
This is exactly what I did with my Subie Legacy GT. Shoulder seasons sucked with the OEM summers and winter tire swap, so when they wore out I got Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 UHP all seasons and then swapped them w my winter tires later into the beginning of winter.
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12-21-2017, 10:44 PM #99
"All weather" tires in place of winter tires
My WR G3’s wore out much faster than I had hoped due to trailer towing, off pavement and AWD.
Based on a local store’s experience with both the WR G3’s quicker wear and Toyo Celsius’ longer wear, I pulled the trigger on the Celsius. I hope they are as versatile as the WR G3s.
Also, hopefully this ‘extended shoulder’ season ends this week. I think tooling around on dedicated snows over the past month would have increased the ‘no snow’ angst.
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12-22-2017, 03:51 AM #100Registered User
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I swap for Nokian Hakkas in October, as that is when it's usually freezing degrees in Norway. And since I drive over a lot of mountain passes, I tend to keep them on to end of April or beginning of May. Depending on the season and what my plans are. November is full winter here anyway, so the putting them on in October isn't really a problem for me.
In the spring, I do think it's a bit boring to drive the Hakkas all the way to May, as the car is a lot more fun to drive on PSS. If I didn't ski, I would probably swap mid April as in the lower elevations, that will be dry and not freezing.
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