WEED, The Official Thread

[nateski]

any ideas for unsticking a stuck stem/ slide?

[liv2ski]

Guys, wife picked up a few nice baby plants this weekend. I want to get her a grow light system, as she has just always grown her plants outside. Any suggestions for a 3-6 plant setup at $500 or less. Is an LED system better for at home use if we are growing in dirt? http://www.dormgrow.com/ledvshid Thanks

[Bobby Stainless]

I would check Craigslist if you are in a med/legal state.

One or two 400w hps lights will work for 3-6 plants. You could probably scoop a couple of them for 300 bucks or so. I would also consider finding a grow tent as well. Light proofing a room or closet can be a pain.

I am not really sold on LEDs personally. Too expensive.

[liv2ski]

Bobby, I am a total jong on this stuff, but did a few hours research this morning, watched some videos, etc and I kind of like the LED set ups, as they use half the power/electric bill, run cooler and seem to last longer than the hps lights. So the extra upfront cost is offset by lower operating costs down the road???? Didn't really see much on Craigslist for San Diego. Thanks for your suggestions.

[DasBlunt]

wow, LEDs looks amazing. In warm climates they virtually cut out AC costs? That looks huge.

[doughboyshredder]

wow, LEDs looks amazing. In warm climates they virtually cut out AC costs? That looks huge.

LED is the way of the future.

LED "grow" lights, however are kind of a joke.
Initial cost is extremely high for quality lights and offsets any savings except for in the VERY long term.

They still produce heat, just not as much as traditional bulbs.

A lot of rebates right now. If I was growing I would be using LED for clones and maybe even for veg.
Main problem is the spectrum of light produced. They are now producing bulbs with a "daylight" spectrum. I have my houseplants under them and it's working great. 13w bulbs putting out as much light as 60w incandescents. 18w bulbs put out as much as 90 watt halogen.

In ten years nobody will use any lights other than LED for anything.

[Bobby Stainless]

Bobby, I am a total jong on this stuff, but did a few hours research this morning, watched some videos, etc and I kind of like the LED set ups, as they use half the power/electric bill, run cooler and seem to last longer than the hps lights. So the extra upfront cost is offset by lower operating costs down the road???? Didn't really see much on Craigslist for San Diego. Thanks for your suggestions.

You won't get any weight with the LEDs.

As DBS said, they are the way of the future, but the horticultural application is not there yet.

I would do a 400 per 2-3 plants. 6 plants done right, can produce a good amount of smoke.

They are all female, correct?

[jahoney]

any ideas for unsticking a stuck stem/ slide?

turn your bong upside-down, get a wooden spoon and start hitting it out. also, tapping around it causing vibrations can sometimes shake it a little use. Turning it upside down helps because of gravity.

If that doesn't work you can try freezing the bong. Since the downstem is made of less glass it should freeze quicker thus making it shrink faster than the bong around it. Just be careful not to let the bong warm up too fast cause it can shatter. No hot water if it's frozen solid.

sometimes it just takes time. my buddy's downstem was stuck for over a year, we tried EVERYTHING. then one day, I just pulled it right out with no fuss. It was weird, just didn't want to come out for a loooong time.

[NoPostholio]

^^^^nice patience and dedication


it would last an hour with me before I broke it

[liv2ski]

You won't get any weight with the LEDs.

As DBS said, they are the way of the future, but the horticultural application is not there yet.

I would do a 400 per 2-3 plants. 6 plants done right, can produce a good amount of smoke.

They are all female, correct?

Bobby, I watched about 4 videos on guys grows under LEDs and the results impressed me. Solid buds for sure. I watched 1 video on a guys first grow under these: http://www.357magled.com and it was a solid effort. Fucking lights are pricey though and I just dropped a grand today on the fucking water heater so now I am a little tight on cash. Guess I just need to suck it up and go all in for her Christmas present.

[jahoney]

...or just bought a new one

it was a nice piece of glass, he didn't want to ruin it. The bong was a illadelph that they don't make the model of anymore, and he payed something like 30 bucks for the diffuser. he'd owned it for quite a few years, too

[sherpahigh]

So I got my MFLB in the mail on Monday and is it ever great! I had/have an iolite as well but haven't used it in a long time and went back to the dugout and one hitter for a while because it's so convenient and easy to dose. Once I sort out the battery routine I think I'll be able to adjust to this nicely though and put the combustion away for good.

[NoPostholio]

^^^no prob pal - see you in a week

[NoPostholio]

So I got my MFLB in the mail on Monday and is it ever great! I had/have an iolite as well but haven't used it in a long time and went back to the dugout and one hitter for a while because it's so convenient and easy to dose. Once I sort out the battery routine I think I'll be able to adjust to this nicely though and put the combustion away for good.

Get some extra batteries like bf said - and I am loving that short whip line.....so stealth it ain't funny

[Bobby Stainless]

Early flower C99 x Deep Chunk, in a RDWC system. After a few modifications, the GH Water Farm is a good system.

[iceman]

Pax is new and seems a lot cooler than MFLB (though twice the cost). I'm getting myself one for Christmas.

[DasBlunt]

look here Ice before you buy http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/pa...by-ploom.6223/


. A few hundred posts to skim, but the answers as to how good it is are there. Fuck gizmo, they are getting paid FYI.

[iceman]

Well I'm not gonna read a 228-page thread but on the last page people were showing it love, including a guy who sent his in for warranty work and got a new one back in 9 days. I'm sure it's not perfect but neither is the MFLB (I have one) so I still think I'm gonna get one. I'll poke around in that thread some more first though, thanks for the link.

[MotherFucker]

Just threw a few clones under some veg lights. Master Kush, Blueberry, Flo, and Purple Sage. Let's see how they turn out.

[NoPostholio]

picked up some CD and OGK from state next door
MMJ states are awesome....

[DeutschBag]

So I got my MFLB in the mail on Monday and is it ever great! I had/have an iolite as well but haven't used it in a long time and went back to the dugout and one hitter for a while because it's so convenient and easy to dose. Once I sort out the battery routine I think I'll be able to adjust to this nicely though and put the combustion away for good.

I'd love to hear more about your thoughts on the MFLB vs the iolite. I have an iolite and it is okay, but not great by any means. Hate that it uses butane, and you can go through quite a bit fast if used a lot. Think the MFLB may be better for traveling. I know there is a ton of info on this thread about the MFLB, but I don't have the time to go through it all right now.

[bryanthebold]

I'd love to hear more about your thoughts on the MFLB vs the iolite. I have an iolite and it is okay, but not great by any means. Hate that it uses butane, and you can go through quite a bit fast if used a lot. Think the MFLB may be better for traveling. I know there is a ton of info on this thread about the MFLB, but I don't have the time to go through it all right now.

I've had a MFLB for about a year now. Very fine vaporizer for one person or two person.

Pros:
Small and portable
Surprisingly durable
Easy to control and not burn your green
Vapor > Smoke

Cons:
Its a slow process. If your a heavy smoker you may find that it takes quite a while to get the desired amount vaporized. I like to think of it more as a 1 person device, or 1 bowl and 1 battery for a single person if you use a lot.
Batteries can be so so in cold weather (aka while skiing)

Tips:
Grind up your green!
Getting 4 batteries and a bigger charger is best if your using a lot. I ordered extra batteries from MFLB and bought an energizer 4 battery charger from a local store. You can sometimes find chargers that work 12 v and 120 v which is nice for travel.
If your using at home a lot consider buying the power adapter, its quite a bit better than the batteries and will work car/home.

Ultimately I had to ditch one of mine due to law enforcement and I ended up buying another one. All they got was the stem and one of the cops said I was smoking crack with it!





Iceman - Let us know how the Pax is, looks pretty sweet

[DeutschBag]

Thanks btb! Good info to have. It looks like it is easier to use, clean, and more portable than the iolite. I did read through a few pages on this thread, and it does sound like the MFLB produces a better vape. I've been unimpressed with the iolite in that respect. It's decent, but leaves you wanting more every time. I just don't want to invest a lot right now as I may have an overseas move coming up soon. I'd love to get a big boy desktop vaporizer, but they be spendy and I don't want to have to ditch it...... Thanks again for the info! May place an order this weekend...

[thin cover]

Thanks btb! Good info to have. It looks like it is easier to use, clean, and more portable than the iolite. I did read through a few pages on this thread, and it does sound like the MFLB produces a better vape. I've been unimpressed with the iolite in that respect. It's decent, but leaves you wanting more every time. I just don't want to invest a lot right now as I may have an overseas move coming up soon. I'd love to get a big boy desktop vaporizer, but they be spendy and I don't want to have to ditch it...... Thanks again for the info! May place an order this weekend...

Spend the extra $50 and get a Buddha. The MFLB produces a less than desirable volume of vapor. When you call them, they tell you that you should not exhale anything. I dont get that. The buddha produces clouds of vapor and is tasty on every pull. The MFLB heating element burns the product more than vaporizes it and the taste is nothing like the buddha or other good desktop whips. I dont want to have to watch an instructional video to learn how to "use" it properly. I have had it for over a year and made the mistake of buying the home attachment in search of making it better. It wasn't and I should have just bought the buddha.

Anyone want to buy an MFLB with home attachment?

[DasBlunt]

Anyone want to buy an MFLB with home attachment?

There is a real learning curve to the MFLB, and it is not for certain personalities. I get big hits, with vapor, not smoke from the box. Learning how to use it is the main thing. Some people are not patient, or will turn the power adapter up too high, then burn the herb ( sounds like your experience?).

The draw is SLOW, really slow. The reverse of blowing on the wings of a butterfly. It is a slow, LONG draw, after waiting about 2 sec for the box to heat up. Because the MFLB is both convection and conduction, you need to "finish off the hit" so to speak, after the slow draw, speeding it up so the weed swirls around (launch). Most people, if not all, pack the thing too full and that also hinders the whole process. Because you vape more efficiently, you do not need to use so much.

Every personality is different, hence all the different brands and styles. Until there is something as cheap and efficient, and as small as the MFLB, then maybe I will change.