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Thread: Bear Creek-Telluride
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03-25-2019, 03:33 PM #101
Just one more to add to Foggy's query above. The Loveland trail map clearly delineates the permanent USFS closure of the Seven Sisters differently from the rest of the boundary
https://skiloveland.com/wp-content/u...il-Map-Web.jpg
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03-25-2019, 03:39 PM #102
I actually think this is broadly true with more context - my understanding is that the Bear Creek boundaries along See Forever are between the ski area and USFS land. In general it's fair game to enter, with the understanding that Telski is no longer responsible for your safety (but they can impose their own non-criminal penalties as the permit holder). In the Tempter area it's unique because the Forest Service itself acknowledges some of the disputed property, and violating federal closures can become a Colorado Skier Safety Act issue for USFS or San Miguel County to handle.
But to say those ropes wouldn't be there if it weren't for the Chapman claims, etc. seems like a stretch.
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03-25-2019, 03:47 PM #103
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03-25-2019, 03:51 PM #104
What about "wildlife" closures?
https://assets.vailresorts.com/-/med...sin.ashx?la=en
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03-29-2019, 01:49 AM #105
that slope looks like a Deathtrap>local right of passage??? Poached regularly???? from what I learned from experts> that would be a slope to avoid
Look at where the slide broke> right where the sun crusts up and wind loads pile up too , the underlayers there would be suspect at best on a year like this.
the terrain feeds you into a classic trap..no way out in that pictures angle
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03-29-2019, 03:56 AM #106
You are an idiot. Ok, I chimed in.
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03-29-2019, 05:29 AM #107ski paintingshttp://michael-cuozzo.fineartamerica.com" horror has a face; you must make a friend of horror...horror and moral terror.. are your friends...if not, they are enemies to be feared...the horror"....col Kurtz
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03-29-2019, 08:07 AM #108Registered User
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That whole Bear Creek area is full of death traps.
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03-29-2019, 05:36 PM #109
From a few blocks down Pine street from the trail's exit, here to agree that Bear Creek is one gigantic death trap. And a heckuva place to ski.
Also, what's the story with the opulent, palatial looking Tempter's place? Dang.
Answered my own question.
https://www.tellurideskiresort.com/t...tempter-house/
Still, dang. Chute looks good.Last edited by Sky_Shoe; 03-29-2019 at 08:06 PM.
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03-30-2019, 12:48 AM #110ski paintingshttp://michael-cuozzo.fineartamerica.com" horror has a face; you must make a friend of horror...horror and moral terror.. are your friends...if not, they are enemies to be feared...the horror"....col Kurtz
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04-01-2019, 04:38 PM #111
Bear Creek-Telluride
Totally different scenario there though. All parties were skiing in bounds in open terrain. Heather was above the rocky choke at the bottom of Feel the Glory, in the middle of the run, walking up up hill to retrieve a ski. The boarder who triggered the slide came off the the high traverse and then continued across the the top of Feel the Glory in a descending traverse a few hundred feet above her. They could have seen eachother in better visibility but it was kinda socked in up high that morning. It had cleared significantly by the time she was found an hour later.
No legal action was taken, or liability assigned to any parties involved, including Snowbird. The boarder suffered some significant mental health issues as a result.There's nothing better than sliding down snow, and flying through the air
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04-02-2019, 12:03 PM #112Registered User
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I don’t think anyone is arguing that chute is safe. But it does have one advantage of going all the way down without cliffing out as would happen if you tried to ski down in the trees next to it.
People have died skiing/boarding that chute before, and they’ve gone off the cliffs, too. It’s a dangerous place. That might be part of the appeal to some riders. Look on YouTube and you’ll find videos bragging about runs down the “suicide” chutes in Bear Creek.
The story isn’t over yet. The Sheriff is still investigating and it will take some time until we find out what he intends to do, but he’s made threats in the recent past of charging poachers who trigger avalanches with “reckless endangerment”. Who knows, it might even be more severe than that.
One thing that might help would be a sign at the trailhead warning uphill travelers that they are entering potential avalanche terrain. Does anyone know if such a sign exists?
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04-02-2019, 12:43 PM #114
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04-02-2019, 12:53 PM #115Registered User
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04-02-2019, 12:55 PM #116
what do you mean by permanent closure? isn't it forest service land that could (albeit inconveniently) accessed from the access gate. i know they're always not allowed to duck the rope but when i think of 'permanent closure' I typically think of an inbounds area (like the cirque at kirkwood or several areas on the map at Telluride)) which you are not allowed to access by any means, or private land. This is neither, unless I'm missing something.
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04-02-2019, 01:11 PM #117Registered User
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There is a lot of talk of it being a "permanent closure". The USFS does such things on places like the Seven Sisters outside of Loveland. I haven't seen any documentation that this area is in fact a permanent closure, though certianly the boundary is closed. Closed boundary and closed area are different. Telluride wouldn't have rights to issue such a closure since it's outside their special use permit area.
If anyone has evidence that USFS issued a closure on this land -- or if is in fact private land (pulling up the GIS file of the USFS land shows thats totally possible) -- it'd be useful to the conversation. Additionally -- does anyone know a place where such closures are listed/described?
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04-02-2019, 01:19 PM #118Registered User
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04-02-2019, 10:20 PM #119
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04-04-2019, 03:36 PM #120
stoopid dyslexia thats what i meant
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04-05-2019, 10:58 PM #121
maybe not in Colorado???
but more than 1 ,of the Utah resorts have some nasty terrain trap type area tha tis "permanently closed"
they are marked with Pink overlay on the trail mapski paintingshttp://michael-cuozzo.fineartamerica.com" horror has a face; you must make a friend of horror...horror and moral terror.. are your friends...if not, they are enemies to be feared...the horror"....col Kurtz
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04-07-2019, 06:57 PM #122
Being told that you are not allowed to access “your public lands” never goes over well in Telluride. The town is literally bordered on all sides by national forest. And populated by outdoor enthusiasts.
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04-07-2019, 07:25 PM #123
^same here in Tahoe (at least the south shore). obviously not the same risk factor but i am always perplexed whenever I visit somewhere and something can't be skied because of access/property issues.
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