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02-17-2019, 08:30 PM #1
2 buried/killed Brush Creek, Crested Butte CO
https://avalanche.state.co.us/caic/a...ep&view=public
preliminary report only at this time; low elevation SE aspect. condolences to the families.
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02-17-2019, 08:52 PM #2
The spot they were in based on the news article I read has some hairy, steep terrain above it with a terrain trap gully below it. Sounds like they were training on the GT course.
Condolences/vibes to family and friends.
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02-18-2019, 10:05 AM #3Registered User
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Sad ending for what appears to be some pretty decent guys.
CBAC had a red flag warning for the weekend, hopefully somebody learns from this.
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02-18-2019, 10:06 AM #4
RIP. Such a deadly season already. Selfishly, I have to say that it is really weighing on me.
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02-18-2019, 10:35 AM #5
Damn. Rip.
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02-18-2019, 10:37 AM #6
Vibes to family and friends
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02-18-2019, 10:41 AM #7
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02-18-2019, 10:51 AM #8
Yup. Don't want to MMQB this too much till the official report is released but if they were on the GT course as articles have stated. I have a pretty good idea of exactly where they were. Unfortunately they may not have realized the terrain/danger they were traveling under.
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02-18-2019, 11:11 AM #9
It's a spooky spot for sure.
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02-18-2019, 11:12 AM #10Registered User
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So sorry to read about this accident. I didn’t know the victims, but from all news accounts the were great guys and will be missed greatly
Google images places the accident on a section of single track which bypasses a hilly section of the main Pearl Pass route. It’s the common summertime bypass when mtn biking or motor riding the area. Maybe a mile below the big stream crossing. If that is part of the grand traverses route, then that is a serious planning error for such a big event. I’d expect the race event to follow the Jeep Road there, especially with all the sled support. I’ve never been there in the winter though. Maybe some Crested Butte locals will chime in with more knowledge about that area
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02-18-2019, 11:12 AM #11
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02-18-2019, 11:14 AM #12
2 buried/killed Brush Creek, Crested Butte CO
Unless they have changed the course in the last few years, Death Pass is part of it. I've helped with the event in that area in the past.
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02-18-2019, 11:47 AM #13Skiing powder worldwide
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I agree, i think at some point someone has to broadcast a harsh message, you really need to think before you go. Red flag warning, massive winds and snow totals in the 20inch range.
I knew Mike well, and it is an awful loss, and maybe something can be learned, but wtf. This was no place for people to be fucking around.
Scarcity?
https://www.ellis-brigham.com/news-a...euristic-traps
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02-18-2019, 12:13 PM #14
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02-18-2019, 12:17 PM #15i think at some point someone has to broadcast a harsh message
We are close, but there seems to be some disconnect and I don't know what it is.
Maybe we should create another thread so we can distance ourselves from the sadness that is this and other fatal accidents?
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02-18-2019, 01:03 PM #16Registered User
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You can't make people's decisions for them. All you can do is present the information, and the education and hope people make the right decisions. But humans are fallible and will make mistakes, until the end of time.
I've personally seen 6 well trained friends of mine be told to their face by a CAIC forecaster to stay off a certain aspect, then those same people go out and tell other people to stay off a certain aspect. Then, the very next day, those exact same people went directly to that exact aspect and skinned across it with 6 people spaced 50' apart, trigger a massive avalanche, and 5 of them died. No idea how they didn't get the message, it is crazy to look back on.
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02-18-2019, 01:13 PM #17
Sheep Creek?
You can't make people's decisions for them. All you can do is present the information, and the education and hope people make the right decisions. But humans are fallible and will make mistakes, until the end of time.
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02-18-2019, 01:17 PM #18
the CAIC report has been updated with a couple of photos and a little bit more information. those pics are rough... aside from the angle, 9400' SE and not a super big or super scary looking slope either. I'm assuming they must have been in uphill mode at the time.
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02-18-2019, 01:24 PM #19
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02-18-2019, 01:27 PM #20
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02-18-2019, 01:37 PM #21
Zoom in, it shows the course taking the bike trail.
https://www.powderproject.com/trail/...verse.org/ski/
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02-18-2019, 01:43 PM #22
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02-18-2019, 01:53 PM #23
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02-18-2019, 01:54 PM #24
I do think a national organization that focuses on analyzing accidents developed to the point that it is recognized as the authority on the subject, and thus treated as required reading for BC skiers, could result in a significant reduction in blatant human error. This would be separate from forecasting organizations, but prominently linked to on all such pages. No space for public comment. No shaming. Honest, carefully crafted storytelling an high quality photos + video. It would cost time and $$$ to do it right. Production value matters when you are effectively competing with facebook and instagram.
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02-18-2019, 01:59 PM #25
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