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  1. #3226
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    Quote Originally Posted by sruffian View Post
    I was out in the boonies yesterday beating up my old f-150 when the aftermarket radio died. I installed it myself so I figured I had knocked a connection loose or something was shorting out. Initially went out after a HARD bump. The unit came back on after another bump. It would run for about 5 minutes and then turn off. Back of the thing was hot. Once I let it cool down it would start up again. Most concerning, though, is that it wouldn't turn off when i pulled the key out of the ignition.

    Inspected everything in depth this morning. All wiring is intact, and no other function on the truck is messed up when I pull the key out of ignition. I got a voltimeter out and have 12v from the battery, and 12v from the ignition switch when in accessory or running, and .01V (or 0V) when the key is not in the ignition. This is at the pin that plugs into the radio.

    Doubt it matters but it's a sony xav-ax150.

    Before I replace the fuckin thing, what am I missing? If I have 12v keyed at the harness, but it's not turning off, I've got to think something inside the unit is shorting out, right??
    FWIW, it took me three new stalks on my F-150 before I got one that worked. Maybe basinbeater or other audiophiles can weigh in, but would a shorted speaker wire increase the resistance and result in an overheated amp? Maybe play with the balance and fader to make sure all of them are working?

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    It's like grade-b Maple Syrup... right out of the fridge.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan View Post
    FWIW, it took me three new stalks on my F-150 before I got one that worked. Maybe basinbeater or other audiophiles can weigh in, but would a shorted speaker wire increase the resistance and result in an overheated amp? Maybe play with the balance and fader to make sure all of them are working?
    The plug going into the back of the stereo will have an always hot 12v, a switched 12v usually labeled acc, and ground. Verify that 12v always on is... Always hot. Verify that 12 switched operates correctly with a turn of the key to acc. (This is accessories on and not engine. This one should keep power when engine runs as well. ). Measure resistance of ground wire from plug to chassis. Should be 0 ohm, or very very very low resistance.
    If those all check out and it still powers randomly, won't turn on, won't turn off, you have a faulty unit. Chuck it, (make sure you get your last CD out) and put chup's in.

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    Thanks basin. Yeah 0.2 to 0.3 ohms of resistance for ground wire to chassis. Battery lead is always hot, keyed is 12v in accessory but not key off. Sony is replacing the unit so shipping it back today


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    Daughter's 1st trip to the junkyard. Big time score.
    Leather, 6 way power, from a Honda Odyssey, $50 ea.
    They are in pretty good shape, especially for the price.

    I will have to get a welder to make a bracket- thinking about bringing it across the entire cab and tying both seats and console to it, with the thought of tying it into a cage in the future.






    The 2X4 height is perfect. We should be able to run a flat bar straight across, since the spot where the console goes is raised already. We'll see what the welder suggests.

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    ^^^ luxury livin right there!

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    Genuine Corinthian Leather!! (old Chrysler ad reference)

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    Quote Originally Posted by warthog View Post
    Daughter's 1st trip to the junkyard. Big time score.
    Leather, 6 way power, from a Honda Odyssey, $50 ea.
    They are in pretty good shape, especially for the price.

    I will have to get a welder to make a bracket- thinking about bringing it across the entire cab and tying both seats and console to it, with the thought of tying it into a cage in the future.






    The 2X4 height is perfect. We should be able to run a flat bar straight across, since the spot where the console goes is raised already. We'll see what the welder suggests.
    If there was anything to exemplify how fucking fat society has gotten over the years, it's the difference in those two seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowaddict91 View Post
    Looks like the passenger blend door failed on my F150. At least its stuck on heat for now. Should be a fun job tearing apart a good chunk of the dash and center console. FML.
    Finally tackled this today. Wound up being fairy straight forward, didn't have to pull the center console as one youtube video showed. I could easily do it again in an hour or so. I was pretty scared of the back bolt on the actuator, so many comments about it being impossible to get to, but with an open end wrench it wasn't too bad. I've certainly had single bolts fuck up my day way worse than that before. I did have to pull the touchscreen twice due to a missed connector first go around though...

    Best part is it fixed my problem! Time for a beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowaddict91 View Post
    Finally tackled this today. Wound up being fairy straight forward, didn't have to pull the center console as one youtube video showed. I could easily do it again in an hour or so. I was pretty scared of the back bolt on the actuator, so many comments about it being impossible to get to, but with an open end wrench it wasn't too bad. I've certainly had single bolts fuck up my day way worse than that before. I did have to pull the touchscreen twice due to a missed connector first go around though...

    Best part is it fixed my problem! Time for a beer.
    Congratulations! A beer well deserved. Enjoy!

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    Well the offers,such as they are, for a Rover that needs help before it can be used are pretty much a waste so it's looking like fixing it is the best option. Since I can't disable it in the driveway in the winter it will have to head for a shop and there's a specialist nearby that sounds like they know what's up and they got the Aldo seal of approval. So do I have them also get the AC working and change the high pressure power steering hose that weeps and makes the fluid in the reservoir bubble while they're in there? I think I should.

    I bet the 40 mile tow ain't gonna be cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan View Post
    If there was anything to exemplify how fucking fat society has gotten over the years, it's the difference in those two seats.
    Just go with a bench seat


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    GL- I'm guessing you don't have it but take a peek at AAA or roadside through your insurance. I've gotten AAA just for the year since membership gets a certain mileage of free tow. Yearly membership with free tow was significantly less than the one long tow I needed.

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    @Evdog - haha

    @ll ooh shit, I forgot I got AAA last year when we really started traveling with it. Yay, already paid for tow Geico said I couldn't get tow coverage on an old Range Rover.

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    No hood to work under here, but I had some work to do on my moto recently.


    A little while ago I found a crack in my rack. This is the luggage carrier on my moto with a mountain bike carrier bolted to it.




    The only local "no job too small" welder that returned my call wanted $85 for this little weld. The rack cost $100 new. Talked him down to $55. Done.




    But the rack will fail again if not supported better. It only has two supports: two screws behind the seat, and two arms that drop down and bolt to the frame. The rack cantilevers out behind those. When the MTB is mounted, the two straps go over the stem and compress the fork. This actually lifts the back end of the bike up so there isn't any downward force on the cantilevered rack. Until you get on bumpy roads of course, when the bike would swing up and down. I'd planned to ask the welder for a quote to fab something up to support it better, but considering his price on the weld I decided to look at other options.




    I noticed the bolts for the rear tail light were spaced similar to the slots on the bike carrier. And, that is a nut welded above the frame which doesn't have a stopper, so I could thread a longer bolt through it. I drilled out the plastic fender from below and test fit some long bolts. I was prepared to drill more holes, but the bolts fit through everything perfectly.




    Next I played with a selection of nuts and washers to find the best spacing. One nut & spacer below the fender and 3 nuts between the fender and rack produced a solid result. I like this as the weight of the rack isn't borne by the bolt threads, its actually sitting on the frame. All I really need this to do is stop the rack from swinging up and down as much on rough roads, which is what caused the crack. This should do the trick.


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    Evdog, if that doesn't work (you'll eventually just break the subframe without some struts diagonally down from farther back), swing by here and I'll help you make your dream rack. My TIG welder and tubing bender exist mostly to make moto racks, it seems.
    ride bikes, climb, ski, travel, cook, work to fund former, repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    Well the offers,such as they are, for a Rover that needs help before it can be used are pretty much a waste so it's looking like fixing it is the best option. Since I can't disable it in the driveway in the winter it will have to head for a shop and there's a specialist nearby that sounds like they know what's up and they got the Aldo seal of approval. So do I have them also get the AC working and change the high pressure power steering hose that weeps and makes the fluid in the reservoir bubble while they're in there? I think I should.

    I bet the 40 mile tow ain't gonna be cheap.
    Check your o rings at the ps pump before replacing the line. What's wrong with your ac ? Both O'Reilly's and AutoZone have manifold gauges and vacuum pump available for use for proper recharging after repair if that's your worry. AC work isn't very difficult and can save you a quick $1000. Usually it's a leaking condenser or compressor issue and both aren't all that difficult if your patient and have a bit of mechanical aptitude.

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    The thing is the fan, belts and some other stuff has to be removed to get the compressor out and with the hose job it all has to be removed anyway so it would save about 4 hours of labor to do it now. The ps hoses below the reservoir aren't accessible without moving the hard ac lines and the ac drier cartridge can't be replaced without moving the ps lines. The ps lines are wet from the reservoir down around the bend below, I assume the leak is actually at the base of the reservoir so it's probably not too bad but it does let air in and the fluid bubbles so it needs to be dealt with sooner rather than later and since the lines would need to be moved to get to the drier this would be time to get a closer look at it. You'd think that a bigass SUV would have room to work under the hood but no... The thing that gets me is Rock Auto has the ac parts and hoses for way less than they're going to quote so I may still end up doing it myself when it warms up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    The thing is the fan, belts and some other stuff has to be removed to get the compressor out and with the hose job it all has to be removed anyway so it would save about 4 hours of labor to do it now. The ps hoses below the reservoir aren't accessible without moving the hard ac lines and the ac drier cartridge can't be replaced without moving the ps lines. The ps lines are wet from the reservoir down around the bend below, I assume the leak is actually at the base of the reservoir so it's probably not too bad but it does let air in and the fluid bubbles so it needs to be dealt with sooner rather than later and since the lines would need to be moved to get to the drier this would be time to get a closer look at it. You'd think that a bigass SUV would have room to work under the hood but no... The thing that gets me is Rock Auto has the ac parts and hoses for way less than they're going to quote so I may still end up doing it myself when it warms up.
    Sooooo..

    Massive Coolant Leak
    Suspension Problems
    Power Steering Leaks
    AC Problems

    For the love of all things holy.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    The thing is the fan, belts and some other stuff has to be removed to get the compressor out and with the hose job it all has to be removed anyway so it would save about 4 hours of labor to do it now. The ps hoses below the reservoir aren't accessible without moving the hard ac lines and the ac drier cartridge can't be replaced without moving the ps lines. The ps lines are wet from the reservoir down around the bend below, I assume the leak is actually at the base of the reservoir so it's probably not too bad but it does let air in and the fluid bubbles so it needs to be dealt with sooner rather than later and since the lines would need to be moved to get to the drier this would be time to get a closer look at it. You'd think that a bigass SUV would have room to work under the hood but no... The thing that gets me is Rock Auto has the ac parts and hoses for way less than they're going to quote so I may still end up doing it myself when it warms up.
    Sounds like you haven't fully diagnosed your AC problem, in that case it could be expensive FAST. If it was me I would pour a bit of bluedevil PS sealer in and check after a bit or take a close look where the reservoir meets your system after a thorough cleaning. Lot of air leaks happen where the lines connect at the pump due to hardened o-rings. Sounds like you're making some assumptions on both the PS and AC and if you drop off at a shop without pinpoint cause they'll want to verify themselves and it could be expensive real quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan View Post
    Sooooo..

    Massive Coolant Leak
    Suspension Problems
    Power Steering Leaks
    AC Problems

    For the love of all things holy.....
    Haha yeah, well sort of. The leak is new and, like the first three, is pretty much just age related. Things that anything older than a few years is prone to. The AC is minor to me, made it through a nasty summer without and could do it again if it's more than the $400 kit from Rock Auto but when access is easier. The suspension has been a slow refresh process, I'll get it done just like any of us would on an old car so I don't think of it as a terrible thing anymore now that I have the bothersome stuff done and the steering isn't funky anymore. Bushings wear out, it's what they do. From what I hear it's not all that unusual for the ps system on these and similar age BMW X5s (same system, this was the transition year to Ford) to weep so I'm probably making more of it than it is but it's there and with better access it would make sense.

    @fatnslow I was going to do a partial fluid refresh to clean that up and pull the headlight assembly out to get in and clean it up better to see what's going on. I'm probably being a wussy and should just do it in the cold and snow but 30 was almost half a lifetime ago and my feet get colder now I'm not totally sold on the ac issue being the compressor but the mechanic that I pulled the dash apart with last summer to change the expansion valve was pretty sure but I'd want to know before ordering parts.

    Haha nothing was going to be an issue, I was getting stuff done and feeling pretty good that I'd have it in shape for skiing and spring work travel but then age got this hose and this one is a pain in the ass but I guess in the grand scheme it's not so terrible compared to what we hear from other vehicles, especially older ones. If we hadn't just blown the wad getting the wife a nice car for the first time in a long time, she hasn't even had a car for three years, it wouldn't be as big a thing either but with the thoroughly wrecked used car market I need to deal with what I've got because replacing it is probably worse than fixing it even if it's a couple $k more than it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    Haha yeah, well sort of. The leak is new and, like the first three, is pretty much just age related. Things that anything older than a few years is prone to. The AC is minor to me, made it through a nasty summer without and could do it again if it's more than the $400 kit from Rock Auto but when access is easier. The suspension has been a slow refresh process, I'll get it done just like any of us would on an old car so I don't think of it as a terrible thing anymore now that I have the bothersome stuff done and the steering isn't funky anymore. Bushings wear out, it's what they do. From what I hear it's not all that unusual for the ps system on these and similar age BMW X5s (same system, this was the transition year to Ford) to weep so I'm probably making more of it than it is but it's there and with better access it would make sense.

    @fatnslow I was going to do a partial fluid refresh to clean that up and pull the headlight assembly out to get in and clean it up better to see what's going on. I'm probably being a wussy and should just do it in the cold and snow but 30 was almost half a lifetime ago and my feet get colder now I'm not totally sold on the ac issue being the compressor but the mechanic that I pulled the dash apart with last summer to change the expansion valve was pretty sure but I'd want to know before ordering parts.

    Haha nothing was going to be an issue, I was getting stuff done and feeling pretty good that I'd have it in shape for skiing and spring work travel but then age got this hose and this one is a pain in the ass but I guess in the grand scheme it's not so terrible compared to what we hear from other vehicles, especially older ones. If we hadn't just blown the wad getting the wife a nice car for the first time in a long time, she hasn't even had a car for three years, it wouldn't be as big a thing either but with the thoroughly wrecked used car market I need to deal with what I've got because replacing it is probably worse than fixing it even if it's a couple $k more than it should be.

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    What year/model is the rig ? I'll make sure to stay as far away from it as possible , keep in mind I own a Saab so it's saying something. Sounds.like you need to borrow someone's garage or a diy auto bay that charges by the hour.

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    I wish I knew someone local with an unused garage. Funny you say diy garage, not long ago I tried to get one started. I tried everything I could think if and couldn't find insurance at anything approaching a reasonable cost. It's not so bad, just getting old. It has no rust so it can be worked on unlike half the cars around here more than 6 or 7 years old. I've thrown away two cars in the last year because rust made them unserviceable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    I wish I knew someone local with an unused garage. Funny you say diy garage, not long ago I tried to get one started. I tried everything I could think if and couldn't find insurance at anything approaching a reasonable cost. It's not so bad, just getting old. It has no rust so it can be worked on unlike half the cars around here more than 6 or 7 years old. I've thrown away two cars in the last year because rust made them unserviceable.
    IDK if this is your setup but a angle grinder and a $10 socket seems to be able to make this possible for the high pressure PS line.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZdAAMZuOt0

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    It's close but the Sport and full size are completely different vehicles. The Sport is a body on frame and the L322 is unibody with subframes and mine also has the supercharger cooler in the way. The one in the video is also the next gen and has a totally different motor. That damned supercharger is awfully nice when things are going right but I'm proving why a NA motor is better to own. I was at my regular mechanic today dialing in some stuff on the wife's new car and he said he'd beat or at least equal that other shop and he'll do the additional stuff for only 2 more hours of labor. He'll also let me bring the parts and help so I can learn about all this shit if I want. Win.

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