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12-27-2015, 11:55 AM #26
I didn't think they were rated for towing? :P
Yeah, what others have said about the older ones. Just crap. I read somwhere that the pro racers replaced the toe wings with solid metal slugs so they wouldn't release period.
I had gen 2 Dukes and they were OK I guess. I had to ski them at 13 to get similar retention to my my 916s at 11. Not much elasticity in the toe. Never liked how the toe AFD slid UP to the boot sole vs toe wings cranking Down to the toe block of your boot. Changed the delta for different boots and was prone to failure as well. Tour/Ski mode switch was terrible and prone to icing and failure ala Raizing AZ's experience. Heavy too obviously. Got rid of mine. That said, still a big improvement in terms of performance and durability over Fritchis and other frame bindings. I gather many of these issues have been addressed in later models and the new Kingpin tech offering looks very promising.There's nothing better than sliding down snow, and flying through the air
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12-27-2015, 12:09 PM #27
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12-27-2015, 12:33 PM #28Registered User
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My Dukes have a lot of play in the track where the binding locks onto the ski. Does anyone know if this will eventually fail while skiing leading to catastrophe?
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12-27-2015, 12:51 PM #29
Because Camel toe > Marker toe.
But seriously their main problem is the legacy left behind from the earlier offerings.powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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12-27-2015, 01:15 PM #30Registered User
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12-27-2015, 01:34 PM #31
Because when I was 14, my m48 titaniums prereleased on a sweet daffy twister spread. With Nelson Charmichael and Donna weinbrecht watching. Never again.
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12-27-2015, 04:26 PM #32Registered User
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When my Marker Tours froze, I just pissed on them and that thawed them out pronto. Works every time.
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12-27-2015, 09:35 PM #33
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12-27-2015, 10:45 PM #34Registered User
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People are crazy.ive used markers for ten years and haven't had a single issue
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12-28-2015, 09:57 AM #35
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12-28-2015, 09:57 AM #36
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12-28-2015, 10:17 AM #37Registered User
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12-28-2015, 10:33 AM #38
Historically, Marker had some bad products that failed and injured people... bad juju. Earned them lasting hate in the community at large just like the recent Quest tech insert fiasco with Salomon.
Then in the 90s/00s they had a philosophy of minimal elastic travel + upward release that seemed great for saving groomer glutton ACLs, but the big mountain and park crowd likes lots of elastic travel so lots of hate for that.
The royals have icing issues but otherwise seem like a vast improvement over the past.Originally Posted by blurred
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12-28-2015, 11:03 AM #39
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12-28-2015, 12:40 PM #40
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12-28-2015, 01:59 PM #41
in 1987 I had a catastrophic failure of a toe piece and I've never gone back. Funny, I broke some Solomon light weight bindings and felt like it was my fault for buying light weight, while I've never trusted marker after that toe piece blew apart on it's first day.
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12-28-2015, 03:38 PM #42
Crayons before markers
watch out for snakes
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12-28-2015, 04:55 PM #43Registered User
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As an engineer, the more elasticity you have the less likely you are to bust out of it in the chatter on the trail.
This is the simplest way I can try to explain it. Why you'd design in less makes no sense to me, other than more elasticity means more exposure to load (time) during a release. Ideally you'd have the binding release point go down as travel increases to reduce the load. This should work well.
I agree that the Marker's I've skied were horrendous. I can (and do) ski a Look Turntable at a much lower DIN than other designs, and the release is buttery smooth. The are a PITA to get into in the deep though, but this compromise is worth it to me. YMMV
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12-28-2015, 05:39 PM #44Registered User
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My lords release well, but they can be really hard to step into.
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12-28-2015, 08:52 PM #45Registered User
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My first pair of bindings was a ~2008 Marker M11. They would constantly prerelease at the toe when I started to get better. Now, I got squires, barons, and demo griffons (used, but haven't tried then yet) and have had no problems yet. Granted, I don't drop 30 ft cliffs.
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12-29-2015, 09:22 AM #46Banned
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12-29-2015, 09:32 AM #47
He played me
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12-29-2015, 09:53 AM #48
The Look binding consistently failed the torque tests I did a long time ago. Solly's and Markers both performed well, but to your point, it would be ideal if the release point decreased as the travel increased. In real life situations the old markers released way to quick in the worst situations. On the other hand, a slow speed fall could be catastrophic in a binding with more elastic travel then say an old Marker.
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12-29-2015, 10:40 AM #49
Used to be when the toe got to the point in its travel when the wing opened, it wouldn't re-close until the boot was out of the binding. I used to hate that feeling of "yeah I saved it" only to have the ski sail off of my foot
I rip the groomed on tele gear
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12-29-2015, 12:55 PM #50
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