The Great Resignation ‘21

[SumJongGuy]

you not making sense come on
I guess I'm a small business and guess what I don't pay shit in taxes it's amazing really anyone can structure any business to take advantage of tax laws it's brilliant
don't get me wrong I send the irs 6-10k a month but when you look at the big photo I don't pay dick

and guess what 80% of the labor on anything from roofing to home construction to remodels doesn't have medical or wc ins. usually they carry a dog shit liability policy

back to the great resignation
I've never delt with so many snowflake pussies in my life people are so soft these days it's pathetic

I bet you paid more than Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos

[old goat]

I bet you paid more than Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos

Bet he pays less in spousal support.
https://nypost.com/article/most-expe...%20to%20Forbes.

[mud]

I've never delt with so many snowflake pussies in my life people are so soft these days it's pathetic

I bet you're a big Lee Marvin fan.
As a Gen Xer carpenter in my 20's I sure walked off a few jobs when some old fart was asking me to do something I didn't want to do. Cut out a window in this 50 year old basement concrete, gfys, climb up on a 10/12 roof with no sissy sticks during a winter storm, kiss my dick. The kids of the 70's and 80's are probably the last to look up to blue collar jobs. I can't imagine growing up now when there are so many ways to hustle online for work why anyone would want to pick up a shovel or hammer.

[nest]

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[neufox47]

And how is Thincover's business doing these days, now that you mention the sacrifice made?

He’s doing very well. Living the dream. Seems like he mountain bikes or skis more days than not and somehow has a family and a career 🤷.

[Foggy_Goggles]

Upper income folks that still think it is a meritocracy really are a big part of the problem. Between wage stagnation, cost up higher education and healthcare among other things, its just hard for the less fortunate to get ahead. Opportunity is just not as wide spread as it was before.

All the white folks want to do is keep on keepin' on thinking everybody else is the problem. What is your house cleaner got paid $40/hr.? What if you were facing BK because you can't afford health care and you got cancer? What if your kids when to horribly funded public schools?

We get exactly what we collectively deserve. There is no compassion for the human condition. What are you willing to give up? Because if the answer in nothing, you are part of the problem and we're fucked!

[::: :::]

What are you willing to give up? Because if the answer in nothing, you are part of the problem and we're fucked!

THIS

it really needs to be THE national conversation

the conservative swing since Reagan has leaned heavily into preserving private dollars and minimizing public services & support of infrastructure or resource management

Kennedy's line about public service springs to mind, but, in light of our collective response to this pandemic, it's clear that there is a quorum of people who do not give a shit about others

[spanghew]

yes, it's notable how little talk of volunteering has been mentioned in this thread, not to mention what comprises a satisfying life, only success measured in dollars and cars and houses. I think those nice Pink Floyd people talked about this . . .

[old goat]

We get exactly what we collectively deserve.

Because we vote the bastards in. Because "socialism" and letting trans people uses whatever fucking bathroom they want. What America needs is some good old fashioned class consciousness.

[dunfree]

yes, it's notable how little talk of volunteering has been mentioned in this thread, not to mention what comprises a satisfying life, only success measured in dollars and cars and houses. I think those nice Pink Floyd people talked about this . . .

Sample bias selection. what did you expect the upper middle class rat race that defines success as a work from home job in the mountains to answer?

[::: :::]

it's not just the white collar WFH types that are doubling down on "fuck everyone else"

[muted reborn]

yes, it's notable how little talk of volunteering has been mentioned in this thread, not to mention what comprises a satisfying life, only success measured in dollars and cars and houses. I think those nice Pink Floyd people talked about this . . .

If anyone wants to volunteer cleaning my house, please DM me!

[Foggy_Goggles]

the conservative swing since Reagan has leaned heavily into preserving private dollars and minimizing public services & support of infrastructure or resource management

I don't like labels but honestly, I've got more respect for the overt "fuck you, I've got mine" mindset that may be considered conservative than the faux wok "I'm all about change as long is it is something other people do, I've got a certain lifestyle I'm trying to maintain over here" attitude that can be associated with liberals.

I truly don't know if we did it to ourselves or if it was a calculated agenda of the ruling elite, but income and asset percentiles 10% to 90% should be uniting to take bake the conversation but instead its North vs. South, Dem vs. Rep, Camo vs Patagonia, pickup vs important sedan.

[Bunion 2020]

^^^ Look at the history of this country for the past 100 years. In 1921 we were just out of a war, into a pandemic and trying to figure out where the US fits into the world. Still a mostly agrarian society although more and more people were moving to cities for the opportunities that were available. Then came a depression and another totally shattering world war followed by America as the only country left mostly whole although at a tremendous cost.

That set of generations knew hardship and sacrifice and still believed that it was noble to give your life for your country or for the greater good. Since then we have known unparalleled prosperity for a 1/2 century and now the wheels are starting to fall off mainly because we have had it so fucking good that we feel we are owed continued unicorns and rainbow colored ponies.

And it mostly comes down to "fuck everyone else"

[subtle plague]

If anyone wants to volunteer cleaning my house, please DM me!

I'd do it if you started a band with dunfree and glademaster.

[Foggy_Goggles]

Sample bias selection. what did you expect the upper middle class rat race that defines success as a work from home job in the mountains to answer?

As someone that feels increasing surrounded by these types, boy are they an unaware and unhappy bunch. You'd think folks fortunate enough to talk the two doodles for a walk around the pond in the middle a nice sunny midweek day could, every now and then, smile and say high. Nope.

If your existence is so fuckin' miserable, why to you need to throw off the vibe that everyone and everything is a threat to it?

[dunfree]

I don't like labels but honestly, I've got more respect for the overt "fuck you, I've got mine" mindset that may be considered conservative than the faux wok "I'm all about change as long is it is something other people do, I've got a certain lifestyle I'm trying to maintain over here" attitude that can be associated with liberals.

I truly don't know if we did it to ourselves or if it was a calculated agenda of the ruling elite, but income and asset percentiles 10% to 90% should be uniting to take bake the conversation but instead its North vs. South, Dem vs. Rep, Camo vs Patagonia, pickup vs important sedan.

If you really believed that, you’d love the PRC or even the big citys where everyone is hustling edit: or even the “hustlers” who’ve hustled themselves to a “merit” job.

[Mazderati]

the conservative swing since Reagan has leaned heavily into preserving private dollars and minimizing public services & support of infrastructure or resource management

While simultaneously decrying government dysfunction.

If your existence is so fuckin' miserable, why to you need to throw off the vibe that everyone and everything is a threat to it?

Wonder if your new neighbors are thinking the same.

[highangle]

yes, it's notable how little talk of volunteering has been mentioned in this thread, not to mention what comprises a satisfying life, only success measured in dollars and cars and houses. I think those nice Pink Floyd people talked about this . . .

After a man gets to a certain age, the bushcraft lifestyle starts to loose some of its appeal.

[Foggy_Goggles]

While simultaneously decrying government dysfunction.




Wonder if your new neighbors are thinking the same.

I may not be smart enough to understand, but I think you are swinging at a piñata that ain't there.

I'm a far from miserable person. The fact that I see my community circling the drain and I view the local economy & society as sustainable and am both vocal and willing to do something about it isn't a problem to me.

[doebedoe]

As someone that feels increasing surrounded by these types, boy are they an unaware and unhappy bunch. You'd think folks fortunate enough to talk the two doodles for a walk around the pond in the middle a nice sunny midweek day could, every now and then, smile and say high. Nope.

If your existence is so fuckin' miserable, why to you need to throw off the vibe that everyone and everything is a threat to it?

So my wife and I both resigned jobs recently. And we got new ones -- both fully remote. Big increase in income thanks to her. Mine is still with the state so need to be in CO, her's can be anywhere. We could sorta become these people. And fuck do I want to. I love skiing and trail running. I commute from Denver in my minivan to volunteer patrol 30 days a year, ski another 30 on top of that, sleeping in the van a bunch. Spend 30-40 days camping every summer up there. We'd love to live in the mountains. Our non-doodle dog would too.

But fuck -- even if we can afford 700k for a 3/2 in the hills with space for us both to WFH, there are barely any of those available. And then we'd just be contributing to the fucking mess up there. We'd just be fucking over our friends who work guiding, patrolling, serving, even more than it already is. I'd probably have to walk my dog in shame knowing I'm just contributing to the fucking up of these places. Those people deep down probably know they aren't helping build sustainable mountain communities which makes them sour.

[Foggy_Goggles]

If you really believed that, you’d love the PRC or even the big citys where everyone is hustling edit: or even the “hustlers” who’ve hustled themselves to a “merit” job.

You wanna flesh that out for me a tad so I understand what I'm supposed to really believe in. The communist China part I get but down understand. I'm definitely pro-hustler but I'm not sure there is enough hustle out there for everyone.

[pepperdawg]

^^^ Look at the history of this country for the past 100 years. In 1921 we were just out of a war, into a pandemic and trying to figure out where the US fits into the world. Still a mostly agrarian society although more and more people were moving to cities for the opportunities that were available. Then came a depression and another totally shattering world war followed by America as the only country left mostly whole although at a tremendous cost.

That set of generations knew hardship and sacrifice and still believed that it was noble to give your life for your country or for the greater good. Since then we have known unparalleled prosperity for a 1/2 century and now the wheels are starting to fall off mainly because we have had it so fucking good that we feel we are owed continued unicorns and rainbow colored ponies.

And it mostly comes down to "fuck everyone else"

^^^Much wisdom with this one....

[Foggy_Goggles]

So my wife and I both resigned jobs recently. And we got new ones -- both fully remote. Big increase in income thanks to her. Mine is still with the state so need to be in CO, her's can be anywhere. We could sorta become these people. And fuck do I want to. I love skiing and trail running. I commute from Denver in my minivan to volunteer patrol 30 days a year, ski another 30 on top of that, sleeping in the van a bunch. Spend 30-40 days camping every summer up there. We'd love to live in the mountains. Our non-doodle dog would too.

But fuck -- even if we can afford 700k for a 3/2 in the hills with space for us both to WFH, there are barely any of those available. And then we'd just be contributing to the fucking mess up there. We'd just be fucking over our friends who work guiding, patrolling, serving, even more than it already is. I'd probably have to walk my dog in shame knowing I'm just contributing to the fucking up of these places. Those people deep down probably know they aren't helping build sustainable mountain communities which makes them sour.

I'd say you'd be welcome in my 'hood. All stereotypes are by definition false. If you think you'd love it, you should take a harder look.

[ticketchecker]

I truly don't know if we did it to ourselves or if it was a calculated agenda of the ruling elite, but income and asset percentiles 10% to 90% should be uniting to take bake the conversation but instead its North vs. South, Dem vs. Rep, Camo vs Patagonia, pickup vs important sedan.

This

The fight is really bottom vs top, the big $ at the top rigs the game in their favor.

They've got everyone below them fighting amongst each other, makes us easier to control.