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10-29-2017, 12:30 AM #776
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11-30-2017, 11:43 AM #777
Those KSL klowns....opened Summit chair over at Alpine!
Seems like they're trying harder on ops this season. Whether or not last season's continuous bitch-fest worked or not, good on em.
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04-12-2018, 01:42 PM #778
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04-24-2018, 12:54 PM #779Registered User
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I know this had been reported happening over the past few seasons at Squaw since KSL took over, but apparently Alterra (the KSL/Aspen joint venture) has banned/blacklisted some season pass holders at Winter Park this season for complaining on social media about operations, voiding and refunding their pass for this season and not allowing them to purchase a season pass for next season.
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04-24-2018, 02:34 PM #780
I don't know if this is true, but if it is I hope some clients lawyer up and sue Alterra for voilating the first amendment. This sounds highly illegal, although I am not a lawyer.
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04-24-2018, 08:39 PM #781
The First Amendment applies to government, not to private businesses. I don't know if WP is on public land (SVAM is partly) and whether they can ban access to said public land for expressing an opinion, no matter how offensive. Maybe it depends on the terms of their permit. I'm sure it would be very expensive to pursue a case and I am sure the ACLU or public interest law firms have better cases to pursue if one were looking for free legal services.
BTW--how reliable is your information--is there a publicly available source-- and what was the nature of the posts on social media--any threats of violence or property destruction?
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04-26-2018, 01:25 PM #782Registered User
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04-26-2018, 02:25 PM #783
From what I remember WP is owned by the city of Denver but operated by Altera (or previously intrawest, powder, whoever). Not that I’m truly aware of that would change 1st amendment rights to the situation.
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04-26-2018, 04:56 PM #784
As I said I am not a lawyer but if businesses can't refuse service based on race, gender, religion etc. I can't believe that they could refuse service based on you expressing your opinion online.
If there is a legal case, a good idea would be to file the case and then go to the media. I would imagine they would settle out of court real quick to avoid the bad publicity
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04-26-2018, 05:01 PM #785Registered User
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You are definitely not a lawyer. Any business can tell you to stfu>fo anytime they want.
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04-26-2018, 05:07 PM #786
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04-26-2018, 05:22 PM #787
Nobody remembers the huge blow-up about pulling passes for FB comments from last year?? Damn, and I thought I was a stoner! haha
http://unofficialalpine.com/?p=12334
Yep, Civil Rights Act. Private businesses are prohibited by federal law from discriminating on the basis of race, religion, national origin, gender, and disability. Doesn't say anything about freedom of speech.sproing!
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04-26-2018, 05:28 PM #788
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04-26-2018, 05:44 PM #789
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04-26-2018, 08:46 PM #790Jacket Cobbler
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04-26-2018, 10:06 PM #791
Thanks.
The pass pulling definitely stifled public, non-anonymous complaining around here. It only took a couple. Shut down Unofficial Alpine for example. (BTW--what's unofficial about Unofficial Squaw?)
I wonder what the legal implications would be if the banned person spoke up at a meeting of say a planning commission or board of supervisors considering a project rather than on social media. Seems like that person might have a case?
What we do know is that KSL, and now Alterra, is extremely image conscious and doesn't take well to public criticism. All the more reason to keep it up, just anonymously.
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04-27-2018, 12:19 AM #792Registered User
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Burton v. Wilmington Parking Authority seems on point here, particularly since Denver previously operated the resort. That would make Alterra a state actor and bound by 1st amendment protections (as well as the 14th which was the issue in Burton). I'm just a dentist though.
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04-27-2018, 08:22 AM #793
From what I've seen, most USFS lease agreements give the operator a certain level of discretion regarding access. It's fairly clear they aren't acting as an arm of the government but as a private entity that happens to be leasing the land. During their operational period, they're pretty much allowed to limit access to their infrastructure as they see fit. So first amendment arguments don't really apply IMO. Lame, but very likely 100% legal.
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04-27-2018, 10:30 AM #794Registered User
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Yeah I was talking specifically about the Denver/WP situation, where the city owns the resort and contracts with a private company to operate it. USFS leases are a different story, the FS owns the land but not the resort and isn't benefiting from resort operations beyond the lease fee.
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03-09-2019, 05:30 AM #795
And what people really want is more parking.
https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...illion-Capital
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03-09-2019, 07:19 PM #796Registered User
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Actually, sounds like some good improvements.
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03-09-2019, 09:24 PM #797
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07-23-2019, 10:15 PM #798
It's time to revive this bitch thread. Those bitches and butches at Placer County rubber-stamped the fuckin' Base To Base Gondola between Squaw and Alpine...the final Board approval was unanimous. Just another little annoyance....fucking eyesore all over the Alpine Meadows valley, an eyesore to people hiking Five Lakes, or annoying to people that want to pretend that Granite Chief Wilderness is not 200 feet from electrified transportation. And that it supports and encourages the development of Whitewolf...more homes for billionaires...just what we needed...because we need more jets and helicopters landing at the Truckee airport. I hate that I live 100 feet from the Placer County line so I can't even vote one of those fuckers out.
You can bet next year..."we have to close Alpine Meadows early to build a fucking useless gondola".
Okay, bitching done.
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07-23-2019, 10:54 PM #799
Is Sierra Watch going to litigate those approvals/EIR?
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07-24-2019, 11:22 AM #800Registered User
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Official KSL Bitch AND Bitch about people bitching about KSL thread
Agreed. Add to that a probably giant parking structure since they will need someplace for all the cars getting displaced by the village. And the discontinuation of all shuttle services.
Seriously, unanimous? I've never seen a planning mtg about anything contentious in sf that was unanimous. Placer county representing the interests of Tahoe is ridiculous
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