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01-12-2018, 09:41 AM #51Rope->Dope
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Steamboat sends the most Olympians out, so they must be the best
There are plenty of really fundamentally strong skiers and riders there. They know how to rip through the trees!
Silverton is up there since the minimum ability is a solid advanced.
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01-12-2018, 09:48 AM #52Registered User
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Steamboat has great Nordic skiers, and maybe gate skiers. But if we are talking freeride they are limited by terrain.
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01-12-2018, 09:55 AM #53Rope->Dope
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^ Yes, agreed. You need a playground to work with, and the challenging terrain there is pretty short.
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01-12-2018, 10:01 AM #54
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01-12-2018, 10:33 AM #55
Damn, I forgot to add Magic to the East coast list. Definitely Magic!
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01-12-2018, 11:26 AM #56
I’ll throw some of the BC/ Kootenay resorts in the best-whitewater/red and Revelstoke/Kicking Horse (excluding long weekends ...)
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01-12-2018, 11:39 AM #57
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01-12-2018, 11:47 AM #58
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01-12-2018, 11:52 AM #59
My local has a very high percentage of bad skiers. It’s easily accessible from metro areas (for VT) and since it’s not the expensive resort in the area it’s full of locals and weekenders that don’t have the coin for lessons, seasonal programs, etc.
A friend who was the ski school admin there for a few years couldn’t get over how bad the average skier was and yet they had a tough time filling the ski school on holidays and other times that you would expect the, to sell out.
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01-12-2018, 12:31 PM #60
You should try winterberg in Northern Germany. Full of gapers from Northern Germany AND the nerherlands. They are by far worse.
Best: good question. LA grave is not as hardcore as it seems to 'mericans. If you grow up without inbounds you get along with terrain management and route finding. I haven't skied Chamonix much but it's reputation attracts a lot of tourists. Who lower the the level. Which happens to many big name resorts. Engelberg has a high level of free riders (so high that I'm really surprised how small resorts look sometimes off Piste wise) but I can't comment on the Piste skills. It's not very tourist friendly because there is basically no sun before February. And they have some high level alpine sports boarding school there... so the kids rip.It's a war of the mind and we're armed to the teeth.
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01-12-2018, 12:56 PM #61
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01-12-2018, 01:13 PM #62
The local talent at BB is pretty amazing. Also, I need to travel more.
How would we rate worst? I'd say beginners and tourists aren't the end of the world. I'd say out of control Rental Mentals and other idiots who get stuck over their heads are a much bigger problem than the beginners you can usually ski around.
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01-12-2018, 02:01 PM #63
I would normally say that if you don't have the terrain, you don't have the good skiers. But in 1996 I went to Valdez to ski, and went to the shitty hotel where they posted the WESC results and saw Davenport's name and Aspen as his hometown. Who and the fuck can ski from Aspen? I guess he didn't spend a lot of time at the resort.
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01-12-2018, 02:18 PM #64Registered User
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McConkey and Morrison started out at Vail. Just sayin.
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01-12-2018, 02:49 PM #65
Cannon does have an abundance of what are perhaps the best intermediate skiers around. It can get icy there but even the average Cannon skiers (some in jeans and/or gear older than my vintage stuff) can negotiate the ice with competence if not finesse. The terrain, ice, wind and temps discourage those who prefer Loon, Waterville or Bretton Woods.
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01-12-2018, 03:19 PM #66
Yeah, a big busy resort would not make this list. It's not possible due to shear numbers.
My years in JH had an abundance of incredible skiers. Of course you never saw them unless you were with them, and the couch never had a lift line, but thunder would be at the back of the maze. They're out.
Squally world...nope, they're out. Incredible talent, but too many kooks.
Taos. Nope. Too many Texans. You never really see them except from the lift flailing down Al's.
Cannon has possibilities. They are much busier than they used to be, but there are a lot of really good skiers there. I've seen tracks in places that are incredibly impressive. The tightness and low snowpack is a huge factor on the EC. Is it better...not really, but does it make one better. Certainly not scientific, but my wife (intermediate skier and super cautious) always felt safest at Cannon because everyone seemed to be in control even though conditions are not typically great.
Smugglers which produced the best skier in our era. But they to are too busy these days also.
MRG. I don't know. Maybe, but I've seen a fair share of piss poor skiers there.
Burke. Burke may have the strongest skier population per capita on the east side.
I haven't been, but I would guess Bridger would be near the top on the West side.
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01-12-2018, 04:01 PM #67Registered User
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01-12-2018, 04:13 PM #68
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01-12-2018, 04:34 PM #69Registered User
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The boot ladders at Tucks are terrifying on weekends. Lots of snowboarders without packs (or poles or axes), lots of jeans, etc. A crew I used to work with had an annual week up there, and it was quite interesting—some of us had some backcountry experience (and gear), others didn't. One snowboarder showed up with a duffel that could sort-of be used as a backpack, someone else ended up skinning up to HoJos with his board on their back to help him out...having a real mountain that accessible with millions of people within a three-hour drive does keep things interesting. I only did the trip twice, but as far as I know, there was only one serious injury in many years, and that was a guy who got knocked out by icefall coming off Chute while hiking to Lunch Rocks (and the people who were already at Lunch Rocks were tucked in behind them, not on top or in front—we were well aware it was a risky place to be).
I don't think Killington, Stratton, or even Okemo would qualify for worst overall skiers—yeah, there are lots of skiers, and most of them are below average. But between the academy programs and the long-time, 100+ day/year locals, there are some pretty damn good skiers at all of those resorts as well.
It gets pretty interesting at my local mountain during North Dakota vacation weeks, but I don't think we have the sheer volume of gapers that the larger resorts do to take the worst-average-skier prize.
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01-12-2018, 06:35 PM #70Banned
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TJ and Dex were from Michigan man.
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01-12-2018, 06:58 PM #71
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01-12-2018, 06:59 PM #72
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01-12-2018, 07:12 PM #73
See, this is getting on the right track. The worst average skier count would have to be on the East Coast, down south near a major metropolitan area. What ever little ski hill that is near Charlotte, Atlanta (Beech, Wolf Mt. ?) would have the triple whammy of inexperienced southern skiers, city folk, and shit conditions.
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01-12-2018, 07:40 PM #74Registered User
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I've heard skiing Ober Gatlinburg is like being inside a looney tunes short.
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01-12-2018, 07:44 PM #75Banned
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I didn't read a single post in this thread..... here's my answer.
Worst - Vail
Best - Snowbird
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