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  1. #651
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    Holy fuck!!! 120 ton cable.. no wonder that truck looked smooshed.

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    Holy fuck!!! 120 ton cable.. no wonder that truck looked smooshed.

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    Progress.

    "It's a chilly, clear day at the foot of the Sea to Sky Gondola in Squamish, but Swiss rope-splicing expert Hannes Koller has sweat dripping off his face. Steam rises off his clothes, as Koller wrestles a thick steel cable apart with metal levers and slowly works the new strands into place."

    Swiss cable-splicing expert oversees installation of Sea to Sky Gondola's new 4-km span

    Interesting report and some photo porn there as a bonus.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5t70JPPY14

    the history of the skilift or doppelmayrporn

    at min 07:00 there is the worlds first ski lift
    a hydro wheat mil transformed in a rope tow with detachable bars
    the waterflow had to be manually controlled to equalize the speed depending how
    many people are loaded

    sorry there are no subtitles... and a lot of interviews

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    Wish that had English sub titles!!!!!

  6. #656
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    the first chair in BC was at red mtn in 47

    I used to go to over to Trail BC fixn hardware back in the 80's, a couple of locals told me at least one of the lifts was built with parts " borrowed " from Comico and the local expertise from mining & milling

    they told me everyone at Comico was in on it and the company turned a blind eye cuz it was good for community morale and everybody was a skier
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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    Those old chairlifts at Red were bonkers. Seemed like they just placed the towers at either ridge over big bowls and strung it across. Never been so high off the ground on a chairlift and definitely not one so "bouncy".

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    Yeah. The old double up Granite was ridiculous.

    If you were in the middle of the bowl and it stopped you'd be going through 20+ oscillations. 80 feet up. With no safety bar.

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    In the mid 80's when you bought yer ticket the visa slip would say " red mtn ski society "yeah that chair was scary to ride, I remember a little pouch with a cord in it tied to the middle bar so the rider could pull up a rope, cuz it was SO high there was no way to get a rope up there

    The guy I used to go over & help told me a woman in acounting was asking him about some paper work for parts, so he said I duno cuz I'm the IT contracter not Cominco and she said " oh yeah thats for the chair lift, I will deal with that don't worry "
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tortoise View Post
    Yeah. The old double up Granite was ridiculous.

    If you were in the middle of the bowl and it stopped you'd be going through 20+ oscillations. 80 feet up. With no safety bar.
    The old Eagle double chair at Lake Louise was similar, not as bad maybe but if it was fully loaded and stopped between towers you were bouncing up and down forever. Was fun as a kid.

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    Sitting on the Cat Skinner, enjoying the ride past the Enchanted Castle (aka Popular Alt Substance Vaping Location), smoothly whisking self to atop Choker.
    Reminiscing on the design and marvel of engineering that makes it all possible.
    And I feel safe.
    Never too safe as to not realize I'm dangling above the ground.
    But safe enough to ease back and consider the consequences of using an un-tethered,
    personal information and calling-messaging device (Tricorder)
    that might just slip out of my cold hands at any moment.

    Never too comfortable, but never really nervous.

    I guess the biggest take away from the Sea to Sky incident,
    is that the Sea to Sky is RESILIENT
    and has a lot of COMMUNITY SPIRIT
    and has PERSISTENCE
    in the face of ADVERSITY.



    The Great Squamish Wind Spirit,
    blows its age-old wise wishes
    into the hearts of the Squamish peoples.

    To inspire them to rebuild and climb to new
    appreciations and heights
    as the gondola is about to start anew.
    Born again. Even stronger.

    It was windy that night, there was a gust just about then.
    But it was the Spirit letting out just a little sigh.
    A small depressed thought, as it pained when the rope snapped.
    A sigh, a small sigh, as it saw the cars fall.

    Cars that once upon a time, turned queezy stomachs
    whisked up high
    into gaping jaws
    at natures awe.

    The Spirit then breathed silently,
    for many months,
    while in respite.

    Expanding its lungs,
    ready to regale again,
    the wonders of nature in

    Squamish Spirit Land.

    ~PG
    OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman  Big Billie Eilish fan.
    But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
    we are not arguing about ski boots or fashionable clothing or spageheti O's which mean nothing in the grand scheme ― XXX-er

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    Quote Originally Posted by puregravity View Post
    Sitting on the Cat Skinner, enjoying the ride past the Enchanted Castle (aka Popular Alt Substance Vaping Location), smoothly whisking self to atop Choker.
    Reminiscing on the design and marvel of engineering that makes it all possible.
    And I feel safe.
    Never too safe as to not realize I'm dangling above the ground.
    But safe enough to ease back and consider the consequences of using an un-tethered,
    personal information and calling-messaging device (Tricorder)
    that might just slip out of my cold hands at any moment.

    Never too comfortable, but never really nervous.

    I guess the biggest take away from the Sea to Sky incident,
    is that the Sea to Sky is RESILIENT
    and has a lot of COMMUNITY SPIRIT
    and has PERSISTENCE
    in the face of ADVERSITY.



    The Great Squamish Wind Spirit,
    blows its age-old wise wishes
    into the hearts of the Squamish peoples.

    To inspire them to rebuild and climb to new
    appreciations and heights
    as the gondola is about to start anew.
    Born again. Even stronger.

    It was windy that night, there was a gust just about then.
    But it was the Spirit letting out just a little sigh.
    A small depressed thought, as it pained when the rope snapped.
    A sigh, a small sigh, as it saw the cars fall.

    Cars that once upon a time, turned queezy stomachs
    whisked up high
    into gaping jaws
    at natures awe.

    The Spirit then breathed silently,
    for many months,
    while in respite.

    Expanding its lungs,
    ready to regale again,
    the wonders of nature in

    Squamish Spirit Land.

    ~PG
    Wut drugs r u doin for these feels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    Wut drugs r u doin for these feels?
    That ^^^^

    I also enjoy drugs, so... I enjoyed this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gcooker View Post
    That ^^^^

    I also enjoy drugs, so... I enjoyed this.
    No drugs. Just maybe a little inspiration for positive vibes the next time you indulge.

    It was just a heart-fart, inspiration in the moment
    -- a reflection of all that is good when the
    wind spirit blows.


    I commend the Sea2Sky for all they have done.
    Although I trolled you all relentlessly,
    about cables and winches and other engineering and meteorological miscellany,
    the dudes that run THAT show
    have been first rate in the face of adversity,
    the cables people et al.
    have really brought the Christmas cheer home.


    So yes, good feels (au naturel),
    and a resolution to embody that same Squamish Spirit
    as life's challenges blow my way,
    or your way,
    or wherever powder flakes land.

    I kinda like it.
    I might print this off and put it on the comedy wall in the
    throne room for the next few weeks.
    OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman  Big Billie Eilish fan.
    But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
    we are not arguing about ski boots or fashionable clothing or spageheti O's which mean nothing in the grand scheme ― XXX-er

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    Whatever happened w this shit.

    Hopefully the cable snap was more resounding than the subsequent drivel posted by interstellar.

    Oh wait, I don't care.

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    Wow, seems a little overstated.

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    Didn't seem that they had much for public relations out of the gate.
    In fact, I'd say it all looked unplanned, dismissive, and from one person (manager) with a clear conclusion.

    Nothing wrong with a clear conclusion ... but then you must show that the glove fits instead of saying
    "trust me. just trust me." IMO - they really played this badly from a customer point of view.

    Armchair quarterbacking ...
    They could have said,
    "It is too early to comment until we have all the facts and information and a preliminary investigation is complete".
    And left it at that.

    A lot of news comments, conspiracy theories, even doubting qualified engineers comments,
    were just a reaction to the predetermined conclusion,
    however true it is/was, it stank of
    mono-synaptic response.

    If they had got it wrong, the damage to their reputation would have been a huge hurdle to future operations.
    Thankfully, they got it right.
    OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman  Big Billie Eilish fan.
    But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
    we are not arguing about ski boots or fashionable clothing or spageheti O's which mean nothing in the grand scheme ― XXX-er

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    Quote Originally Posted by puregravity View Post
    If they had got it wrong, the damage to their reputation would have been a huge hurdle to future operations.
    Thankfully, they got it right.

    oh, bullshit....still, to this day, there has not been one single official statement even acknowledging the existence of the laser squirrels, let alone their obvious role in this heinous attack. the shameful coverup continues unabated.

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    Every time I see an M series username.
    More proof the squirrels were involved.
    OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman  Big Billie Eilish fan.
    But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
    we are not arguing about ski boots or fashionable clothing or spageheti O's which mean nothing in the grand scheme ― XXX-er

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    Gondola reopening on Valentine's Day (right in time for the holiday weekend). Drove by yesterday and they were doing test runs. Looked like only a few cabins on the rope, but otherwise everything looked good to go.
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    Had you asked me when the cable was first cut, I would have guessed that this thing would have been solved by now.

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    Are they still using the same torsion tube design that collided with the sheaves assembly when cars were swaying under high winds while operating "due to operator error"?

    I wonder if that is why Blackcomb went with using the coil spring design on Crystal Ridge and the Blackcomb Gondola.
    OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman  Big Billie Eilish fan.
    But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
    we are not arguing about ski boots or fashionable clothing or spageheti O's which mean nothing in the grand scheme ― XXX-er

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    Quote Originally Posted by puregravity View Post
    Are they still using the same torsion tube design that collided with the sheaves assembly when cars were swaying under high winds while operating "due to operator error"?

    I wonder if that is why Blackcomb went with using the coil spring design on Crystal Ridge and the Blackcomb Gondola.
    Yes but they also put up a big wall to block the winds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angle Parking View Post
    Had you asked me when the cable was first cut, I would have guessed that this thing would have been solved by now.
    Investigation time
    Financial assessment on how or if they can afford to fix it
    Insurance approval time for new purchases
    Ordering the new haul rope (this needs to be manufactured upon request, and needs to be put in the production queue)
    Ordering the new cabins (these need to be manufactured upon request, and needs to be put in the production queue)
    Logistics of shipping a 120 tonne cable spool
    Removal of the old cable
    Receiving and unloading new cable
    Positioning and pulling the new 120 tonne cable
    Splicing the new 120 tonne cable
    Shipping and unloading 30 gondola cabins
    Stinging new gondola cabins
    Testing new cabins and adjusting spacing of new cabins
    Load testing new system
    Scheduling inspections from government authorities.

    Which one of these processes do think is a quick and easy job?

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