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08-13-2020, 02:33 PM #1
Montana puts full-on marijuana legalization on November ballot.
The gist of it is all the current medical dispensaries (a fucking shitload) will be the first to sell to the public, starting in October 2021.
Here are the basic rules. Will it pass?
NEW SECTION. Section 8. Personal use and cultivation of marijuana -- penalties.
(1) Subject to the limitations in [section 16], the following acts are lawful and shall not be an
offense under state law or the laws of any local government within the state or be a basis to
impose a civil fine, penalty, or sanction, or be a basis to detain, search, or arrest, or otherwise
deny any right or privilege, or to seize or forfeit assets under state law or the laws of any local
government for a person who is 21 years of age or older:
(a) possessing, purchasing, obtaining, using, ingesting, inhaling, or transporting 1 ounce
or less of marijuana, except that not more than 8 grams may be in a concentrated form;
(b) transferring, delivering, or distributing without consideration, to a person who is 21
years of age or older, 1 ounce or less of marijuana, except that not more than 8 grams may be
in a concentrated form;
(c) in or on the grounds of a private residence, possessing, planting, or cultivating up to
four mature marijuana plants and four seedlings and possessing, harvesting, drying, processing,
or manufacturing the marijuana, provided that:
(i) marijuana plants and any marijuana produced by the plants in excess of 1 ounce must
be kept in a locked space in or on the grounds of one private residence and may not be visible
by normal, unaided vision from a public place;
(ii) not more than twice the number of marijuana plants permitted under this subsection
(1)(c) may be cultivated in or on the grounds of a single private residence simultaneously;
(iii) a person growing or storing marijuana plants under this subsection (1)(c) must own
the private residence where the plants are cultivated and stored or obtain written permission
to cultivate and store marijuana from the owner of the private residence; and
(iv) no portion of a private residence used for cultivation of marijuana and manufacture
of marijuana-infused products for personal use may be shared with, rented, or leased to an
adult-use provider or an adult-use marijuana-infused products provider;
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(d) assisting another person who is at least 21 years of age in any of the acts permitted
by this section, including allowing another person to use one's personal residence for any of the
acts described in this section; and
(e) possessing, purchasing, using, delivering, distributing, manufacturing, transferring, or
selling to persons 18 years of age or older paraphernalia relating marijuana.
(2) A person who cultivates marijuana plants that are visible by normal, unaided vision
from a public place in violation of subsection (1)(c)(i) is subject to a civil fine not exceeding $250
and forfeiture of the marijuana.
(3) A person who cultivates marijuana plants or stores marijuana outside of a locked
space is subject to a civil fine not exceeding $250 and forfeiture of the marijuana.
(4) A person who smokes marijuana in a public place, other than in an area licensed for
that activity by the department, is subject to a civil fine not exceeding $50.
EDIT: There are a number of subparts and some confusion below. I can't figure out how to make it indent right. Here is the full bill https://sosmt.gov/wp-content/uploads/I-190.pdf.
Section 8 starts on page 14 and is the relevant parts for, uh...end users.
The parts about keeping it under lock and key are about having more homegrown than the limits otherwise allow; the parts about not being visible to the public are also about homegrown, as are the landlord provisions. None of that applies to purchased product.
Basically the gist is we would have full retail stores starting 10/21 with unlimited variety of weed product at unlimited potency with limits only on amount-in-possession and public use. The bill was 100% written by people who were very much interested in a free for all.Last edited by RootSkier; 08-13-2020 at 09:20 PM.
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08-13-2020, 02:34 PM #2
I heard from a friend that 30% of some Spokane-based dispensaries' business is to those with MT drivers' licenses. Sorry to your tax revenue, WA.
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08-13-2020, 02:58 PM #3
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08-13-2020, 03:03 PM #4
Yes. There has only been one poll this year but it was 51% yes and 37% no. MT has a big "don't tell me what to do" streak and I think even plenty of Trump voters will vote for the devil's weed.
As far as I can tell, North Dakota is the only state to have rejected it as a ballot measure.
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08-13-2020, 03:07 PM #5
Good luck Montana!
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08-13-2020, 03:17 PM #6retired ed
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Goddamn, I wish I was a preacher in Montana.
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08-13-2020, 03:20 PM #7
Good to see the proposed Montana regulations provide for personal growing.
Here in Connecticut there is no provision for public initiated ballot referendums. Our only hope is for a legislated path.
Fat chance that ever happens.
There were 3 bills proposed last year and none of them included the right to grow your own. Furthermore, with all the taxes and excise taxes proposed, legal weed would have been 50% more expensive then black market weed. Not even to mention proposed caps on potency.
Now with all the attention on Covid19, legalization is not even a topic anymore.
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08-13-2020, 03:25 PM #8
MT's proposal has a 20% tax rate. That seems low, especially because WA is 37% (!!) and weed is still cheap as fuck. There is a sign on I-90 right at the ID/WA border advertising the current price per ounce and I believe it was $60 last time I drove by (edit just checked and you can Ozs for $40, wtf?). Is it good? I dunno, no reason to go that cheap when the dank is totally reasonable and the tankers are $35.
Caps on potency are wack.
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08-13-2020, 03:27 PM #9I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
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08-13-2020, 03:30 PM #10
^^ Truth. ^^
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08-13-2020, 03:45 PM #11Registered User
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Hope it will pass. With idaho being sandwiched in between two legal states, maybe they will pull their heads out of their ass and make it legal here as well.
Guy can dream, right?
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08-13-2020, 03:51 PM #12
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08-13-2020, 03:57 PM #13man of ice
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Good luck MT, I bet it passes easily though.
Just got back from the weed store here in MA. All done quickly and efficiently outside because of covid but I wonder what they'll do in the winter. They have big open-sided tents with fans blowing everywhere, keeps the rain off but that's gonna be chilly in February.
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08-13-2020, 03:58 PM #14
Curbside pickup?
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08-13-2020, 03:59 PM #15
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08-13-2020, 04:03 PM #16man of ice
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@ Root: No, they hand you an order form as you pull in the parking lot, you fill that out and hand it in in one tent with widely spaced lines with distance marking on the gound, then they call your name and tell you what register line to get in in the next tent. The registers are all around the perimeter of that tent with the staff in the middle and fans right in the middle blowing out. They deliver it to the register, you pay and leave. I was the only customer at my register, they do it one by one.
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08-13-2020, 04:08 PM #17
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08-13-2020, 04:17 PM #18
Good move. If they had just gone half-on, it shows weakness. Best of luck, MT.
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08-13-2020, 04:57 PM #19
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08-13-2020, 05:09 PM #20
Yup. Exactly. In MT, I think I stood in common company being pro-legalization while non-partaker. Seemed a LOT of people I knew there had that Libertarian stance on the matter.
Good luck, guys. Should pass pretty handily this time around.
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08-13-2020, 05:14 PM #21Hucked to flat once
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08-13-2020, 05:29 PM #22
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08-13-2020, 05:32 PM #23
It might pass in MT but the dumbass landowner legislature will fuck with it as much as possible, same as they did with medical marijuana.
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08-13-2020, 06:04 PM #24
Passed in Maine n 2016 and state is still fucking around to implement it
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08-13-2020, 06:13 PM #25
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