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Thread: Electric Bike Thread
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09-01-2019, 07:55 PM #2101
Fat bikes are fun, just another tool, then can go where other bikes can only dream of
Here is a shot of me from this last winter
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09-01-2019, 07:59 PM #2102
Since I'm in the process of building a legit fat-e-bike, I fully expect to be ridiculed by people who are jealous because they can't go where I can, as fast as I can. But I'm mainly looking to commute with it through the winter and probably ride it to the ski area more than once.
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09-01-2019, 08:05 PM #2103
So unless you can ride every mountain bike trail you can't ride anywhere? Don't be silly. Multiple use trails exist all over the place and there are tons of places to ride on dirt with motors. Mountain bikes don't need access to every inch of non-motorized trails in order to have anywhere to ride and e-bikes don't need to be considered universally equivalent to non-motorized vehicles in order to have places to ride, either.
There's no need to get hyperbolic. Access should always be case by case based on appropriateness of the method of travel. There are a lot of mountain bike trails that should allow e-bikes. And a lot that shouldn't. Because the two things are similar but not identical.
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09-01-2019, 08:10 PM #2104
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09-01-2019, 08:21 PM #2105
Weird year this one. Ive decided i like 9ers, fat bikes and eebs. Wtf
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09-01-2019, 08:24 PM #2106
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09-01-2019, 08:26 PM #2107
Ha, I always tell people Fat bikes are the monster trucks of the mtn bike wurld.
My ebike is the Rad Rover a fat tire Ebike that I really like. I still have the Pugs for my snow bike and the Salsa Buzzkill for full squish trail duties.watch out for snakes
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09-01-2019, 08:28 PM #2108
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09-01-2019, 09:16 PM #2109
Hey hey lets not get carried away
That is a sweet pic. Alpine snow shredding
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09-01-2019, 10:16 PM #2110Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident
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09-02-2019, 08:16 AM #2111Registered User
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Actually there are only 3 unpaved rail trails and NO singletrack trails within 200 miles around where I live that e-bikes are allowed. In fact there isn't a single piece of public land in the entirety of NY State where they're allowed and this is a huge state. The issue is even more contentious in CT and MA.
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09-02-2019, 09:41 AM #2112Registered User
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I'm in BC at the moment and have seen a few e-bikers each day here. Compare that to 2 or 3 e-bikers on real trails back home all summer. The e-bikes that are "all over the place" back home are mostly ridden by middle aged people on fire roads, about 50% of those without helmets.
Just posting my observations.Last edited by LC; 09-02-2019 at 10:10 AM.
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09-02-2019, 11:24 AM #2113
Yeah people around here act like it’ll be Armageddon but I have yet to see an ebike on a trail this season, and the ones I have seen on the bike path have all been pretty good, not like running folks off the path or being rude or anything.
I think the roadies get pissed when I pass them on this big cargo bike with a bunch of stuff on it going uphill but I think their Lycra is just a little too tight. Who ever said it was a race? They can always ride the road if they have a problem with it.
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09-02-2019, 11:57 AM #2114
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09-02-2019, 12:55 PM #2115
You're not wrong, there is a monster truck element to riding a heavy bike, it certainly will deflect less. But that's literally the only thing it does better. There was a video of Kenny Smith riding an ebike around to show that 'oh look, good decending'. That guy looked like an absolute choad on that thing. Same with something similar from Cedric Gracia.
A friend of mine bought one for working on trails a few years ago. I finally caught up with him digging one day, helped him work on something for a while and then we both rode down a trail we've each been down 1000's of times. While he said all the same things you're saying now, there is no question he was categorically way way slower riding in front of me than he is on his normal bike. Why? Turns. Pumping. Manuals. He could do none of it well anymore.
I have no real beef with the things other than they don't move descending. Yes they plow over things and create a nice sensation of stability, but are way worse at every other aspect of descending. Get them down to the high 30s and I might even buy one. But not now.Besides the comet that killed the dinosaurs nothing has destroyed a species faster than entitled white people.-ajp
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09-02-2019, 12:58 PM #2116
I don't think anyone thinks that the status quo is working, eMTB certainly should be allowed many more places that they are. Class 1s should be allowed most places that pedal bikes are.
But an ebike has a motor and pedal bikes are human powered, that makes them fundamentally different. I'm not sure why that's so controversial...
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09-02-2019, 02:01 PM #2117
I don’t want to have two $5000+bikes. This: https://ebike-mtb.com/en/lapierre-ez...e-2019-review/ is close to what I would consider a EBike I would buy. Remove the motor and battery and you have something similar in weight to a regular bike for ‘normal’ , non-assisted rides. Plug it back in if you want to have some assist for steep or epic rides, or multiple laps.
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09-02-2019, 02:15 PM #2118Besides the comet that killed the dinosaurs nothing has destroyed a species faster than entitled white people.-ajp
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09-02-2019, 02:39 PM #2119
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09-02-2019, 02:41 PM #2120
That's no way to treat a such precious thing that we all value. I mean batteries don't just grow on trees ya know.
Some one needs to start a battery retrieval program.
Make it an app.
You ride your e-moped up, GPS the location in the app and ditch the battery.
Then you ride down pretending you're a real mountain biker.
The company behind the app sends a helicopter or a guy on a ICE motor bike to go retrieve your battery for your next e-moped pretend mountain bike adventure.
Win, win.
#saveouremopedbattaries
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09-02-2019, 02:55 PM #2121
I demoed the devinci Kenny was on. I liked what it could do and wouldve bought one if it was discounted like the current kenevo is. I was most concerned wuth the weight and the 450 cs. From my short ride i thought i could get better with it with a few more days. The advantages and fun were apparent but i still had doubts. Maybe more rides or maybe it would always give up something. Maybe that vid was Kenny's introductory ride. Idk. I do know with 100% certainty im atleast as fast and playful on my decoy after 10 days. Built up rust or finding the sweet spot on the bike i cant say but the last 2 rides were a regular long steep dh trail and then 3 laps of the 5620ft blue jump trail at the resort i never once felt any negatives other than getting it on my north shore rack at the end of the day. Like every type of new category of bike it takes a couple years to get the geo dialed. I think im in the sweet spot at this point. Maybe if i used to be able to get a bike totally flat i might struggle. Idk , ive never been able to. Not sure what your friend was on or for how long but theyve definitely evolved. Trek is going to have a longer travel bike similar to the slash with 29" wheels and 430 cs with a gen 4 bosch cx motor with a starting point of 6300 cad. Rumour has it a 27.5 wheel will fit in the back. Ive been tutned off by vids of people on 9ers for years too. Not so much anymore. Then i demoed one, spartan 29 with 430ish cs. Blew my mind. Amazing bike. Still a little extra to move around that rear wheel and a bit close to me when i move around off jumps and drops and a bit slower into a corner with my short inseam so 27.5 rear itd be for me personally but a lot of people would be faster on it and just as playful. Check out Luca Comettis commencal vid where he back to back tests the meta 27.5 and meta power 27.5. Hes overall faster on the meta power. Its really close but you can see the difference particularly in stability on the eeb. Demo a decoy or maybe thr norco. Kčnevo and rocky powerplay were options for me(discount) but for me i dont like the standover on those 2. With the extra weight i figure i have to be extra careful with mobility restrictoion for my purchase. Commencal was sold out in my size and the new sx isnt realeased til.this month. There was a discount on the devinci ac but not wnough to get me on a 450 cs. A bridge to far im glad i didnt cross, same with the levo. Bottom of the line levo can be had at a great price and still add a dopper and upgraded fork and be a steel. Tempting and great for a lot of people but i dont want to sacrifice any geo or very little. Decoy fits amazing and the base model spec leaves little yo be desired
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09-02-2019, 03:18 PM #2122
Here
Harry seems to think its worth it《not sponsored equipment)
Sam Pilgrim has won comps against regular bikes on his eeb. Hes a freak but so werent all the competitors
Morr laps, way more fun
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09-02-2019, 03:36 PM #2123
Member in your very last post where you said you could very well get an eeb if they were high 30's ? Ya me neither
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09-02-2019, 03:41 PM #2124
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09-02-2019, 04:13 PM #2125
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