An Email I Received. . .WTF?

[2nd mate]

makes me think about a pyramid heli-skiing scheme. Kinda like when my college roomate told me all about this "awesome" idea called NASCAR. You bring in 5 pic crew and you become a driver ect. ect..........Thats how the Albanian economy tanked you know.

[skiguide]

suggest that she take up stripping to earn extra money fast.

I'm sure plenty of her clients would love to help support that goal, just like they support college.

[khakis]

you can view it as charity or a loan

You should ask for terms on the "loan option." If they want a snotmonster bad enough maybe they'd offer 5%, or you could get the kid as an indentured servant in 5 years or so if they don't pay back all the principle and juice

[The AD]

if they cant afford the procedure they can't afford kids.

Seriously. Wait till the in-vitro produces a multiple birth. A year from now he'll be sending out another email asking for handouts because they now have triplets they can't afford.

This guy deserves to be kicked squarely in the nads. The added benefit is maybe that would decrease his motility even further and he'll have no chance of reproducing

[Lonnie]

Doesn't your friend know that, no matter how hard he tries, the wife can't get preggers thru buttsex?

[cramer]

they going to get 2 kids, not 1. I have 2 buddies who got married in their 30's and they went this route. Hello twins...both of them...

[Conundrum]

they going to get 2 kids, not 1. I have 2 buddies who got married in their 30's and they went this route. Hello twins...both of them...

Pregnant with twins lady in my office who had fertility treatment.


The author of that email is not someone I think I would be friends with. That's ridiculous.

[bagtagley]

Sorta lame to ask people for money, but I feel bad for them, they're obviously desperate. I've got a family member that's been trying for a couple years, and they can afford the fertility treatments. It's still put a tremendous strain on their lives and relationship.

If you had kids easily or don't have any desire to have kids, it's easy to just brush this person off as a wacko. We've all done some stupid stuff during times of desperation. And really, in the scheme of things, asking for money isn't that big of a request.

Good luck to them. Hopefully they'll work something out.

[Yonder_River]

How do you know this guy?

What kind of job does he have that he's making less than a teacher? Maybe he should start working some overtime before he starts asking for handouts.

Oh ya, do we have pics of his wife?

[Tippster]

they going to get 2 kids, not 1. I have 2 buddies who got married in their 30's and they went this route. Hello twins...both of them...

I have two buddies who both went through the in-vitro as well, and both have single children. Yes the chances for multiple births is higher since depending on your age they implant you with more zygotes but there is no guarantee of twins or triplets.

[Kevo]

Apparently you can get invetro done in Bangkok for pennies. Maybe they should check that out...

There are rumors that the quality control over there isn't good. As in, this dudes wife might get impregnated with other people's sperm.

[meatdrink9]

My sister and her husband just did in vitro and ended up with twins. It took 2 attempts at 10K per. They'd been trying to have kids for 4 plus years.

[P_McPoser]

I'm with bagtagley...Assuming these are somewhat close and long term friends, I don't think there's anything wrong with the request---they sound desperate though---and I personally would exhaust every other avenue (and turn to family first) before I tried something like that e-mail.

[Long duc dong]

if they cant afford the procedure they can't afford kids. If they want a kid that bad adopt. Keep your money

Thank you. This is what came to mind immediately. Kids are expensive. If you cannot afford 11,000 you cannot afford kids.

On a related note, the doctor(s) who performed IVF on that octomom scum should have his license revoked.

[Lonnie]

If you cannot afford 11,000 you cannot afford kids.

Ahhh, Bullshit. That's what food stamps and welfare are for....

[The AD]

I'm with bagtagley...Assuming these are somewhat close and long term friends, I don't think there's anything wrong with the request

So what if someone didn't want kids but couldn't afford birth control. Would it be acceptable for them to send an email to friends and family requesting money to pay for the pill?

[OldLarry]

So what if someone didn't want kids but couldn't afford birth control. Would it be acceptable for them to send an email to friends and family requesting money to pay for the pill?

People would pony right the eff up for that I'm sure!

[The AD]

I guess a more comparable scenario would be asking for money for a vasectomy. The idea of praying for someone's vasectomy is even funnier!

[Yonder_River]

Thank you. This is what came to mind immediately. Kids are expensive. If you cannot afford 11,000 you cannot afford kids.

On a related note, the doctor(s) who performed IVF on that octomom scum should have his license revoked.

There was an article that was published just a few weeks ago on the "lifetime cost of having kids" and it pegged it somewhere between $200 - $300k per kid depending on location. This couple has a meaningful chance of having twins or more through invitro and they currently can't scrape together $11,000?? She's a teacher and he makes less than her...doubt he's in a position to get promoted to VP anytime soon.

I don't know why this bugs me so much, but it does.

[berko]

FWIW, if the problem is with him, all they need is a sperm donor and not IVF. That shouldnt cost 11K.

[gh444]

I'm not a parent. But I don't understand nor will I ever, the opposition to adoption. There are lots of kids in this country and other nations that could use a loving set of parents. If you can't have kids and can't afford the procedures, I'm not saying you shouldn't keep trying but whats wrong with mentoring, adopting, fostering, ect. Love is love. Caring for someone who needs it is caring for someone who needs it. Good parenting is good parenting. It can come in lots of forms.

Why must their be the biological connection? I am interested if someone has a good explaination.

[grrrr]

I'm not a parent. But I don't understand nor will I ever, the opposition to adoption. There are lots of kids in this country and other nations that could use a loving set of parents. If you can't have kids and can't afford the procedures, I'm not saying you shouldn't keep trying but whats wrong with mentoring, adopting, fostering, ect. Love is love. Caring for someone who needs it is caring for someone who needs it. Good parenting is good parenting. It can come in lots of forms.

Why must their be the biological connection? I am interested if someone has a good explaination.

It's wired into your brain. More so for the women.

[The AD]

It's wired into your brain. More so for the women.

I can't speak for anyone else, but the only thing wired into my brain is the desire to have sex. Do most men really have this hard-wired desire to have kids? That idea just seems very foreign to me.

[4matic]

I can't speak for anyone else, but the only thing wired into my brain is the desire to have sex. Do most men really have this hard-wired desire to have kids? That idea just seems very foreign to me.

Some Indian (as in India) guys here at work are hard wired to have kids. One of them ordered his wife from a notebook provided by the families and he had kids within 18 months.

[Blurred]

Wow.
Do you guys ever think about anything or just gaze at colorful objects in between sessions of mopping up your slobber puddles?

A huge percentage of your life is spent trying to pass on your genes.
I could go into that.......attraction to pretty women/being good at whatever or wealthy/powerful/funny etc etc to attract those women is only from your fundamental desire to pass on your genes. Duuuuuhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrr..