Eastcoast Roll Call TwoTwo/TwoThree A Slow Start to a Big Finish

**MyNameIsAugustWest** · 11-21-2022, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel

This isn't good. Hopefully it turns out well.

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Wonder if she was an experienced hiker. Depending on what trail she took up Lafayette, it can be pretty demanding, especially this time of year. Hope she's ok.

**jackstraw** · 11-21-2022, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by MyNameIsAugustWest

Wonder if she was an experienced hiker. Depending on what trail she took up Lafayette, it can be pretty demanding, especially this time of year. Hope she's ok.

Sounds like she was fairly experienced summer hiker. They're saying she didn't have any lighting, much food, and was in sneakers. Hopefully she just blew town for whatever reason and is not lost on the hill.

**slatham** · 11-21-2022, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by jackstraw

Sounds like she was fairly experienced summer hiker. They're saying she didn't have any lighting, much food, and was in sneakers. Hopefully she just blew town for whatever reason and is not lost on the hill.

Sunday in the Whites, especially if attempting Lafayette, wasn’t a hike. It was an expedition into the frozen abyss of the arctic. I fear for her safety and pray for her survival.

**jhyatt** · 11-22-2022, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel

This isn't good. Hopefully it turns out well.

new-hampshire-officials-search-missing-hiker

"dropped off Sunday morning at the Lafayette Place Campground in Franconia, with the intended hiking route of Mount Lafayette, Haystack and Flume."

That's a full day in the summer and fall. If she had been dropped at the tram and was doing Greenleaf out and back, she could turn around. The franconia ridge from flume to haystack is totally exposed and Sunday would have been just a windswept frozen mess. I hope she is ok

I will be going to loon opening day

because cannon won't be open this weekend. Ask for change.

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**From_the_NEK** · 11-22-2022, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by jhyatt

"dropped off Sunday morning at the Lafayette Place Campground in Franconia, with the intended hiking route of Mount Lafayette, Haystack and Flume."

That's a full day in the summer and fall. If she had been dropped at the tram and was doing Greenleaf out and back, she could turn around. The franconia ridge from flume to haystack is totally exposed and Sunday would have been just a windswept frozen mess. I hope she is ok

https://www.wmur.com/article/new-ham...2122/42024350#

Agreed. Sunday above treeline would have required full winter preparation. From the brief description of her gear, exposure/hypothermia could have easily set in.

**Vt-Freeheel** · 11-22-2022, 08:27 AM

At this point there is little hope of a good outcome unless she was picked up by someone soon after her mother dropped her off. It doesn't take much winter experience to know that sneakers are a poor choice for hiking to 5200'.
Really sad as her 20th birthday is tomorrow.

Swiss women training here today.

**ridge_skier** · 11-22-2022, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by jackstraw

Sounds like she was fairly experienced summer hiker. They're saying she didn't have any lighting, much food, and was in sneakers. Hopefully she just blew town for whatever reason and is not lost on the hill.

The story definitely doesn't make much sense. This article mentions her mom dropped her off just before 5AM on Sunday, it would have been pitch black and freezing cold at that time. Not sure what mom would have let their kid start hiking in those conditions in sneakers and without any sort of headlamp/flashlight.

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**ADKmike** · 11-22-2022, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Self Jupiter

I think there are still Stripers here in Boston, feels like the season lasted an extra month.

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And yeh fish still around in jersey - still trying to get out there again before skiing really gets goin - been pretty active 'round tip of da hook

**MyNameIsAugustWest** · 11-22-2022, 12:58 PM

Hell, I came close to hypothermia in July hiking the ridge north to Lafayette. Hot and humid when we started, up Falling Waters to the Ridge. Could see the storm approaching the notch but thought we could beat it to Greenleaf. We were wrong. All's well that ends well for me but I fear it's not going to be the same outcome for young Emily...

**krp8128** · 11-22-2022, 05:53 PM

I'm not expecting anything good to come of this, I know what the weather was Sunday night/Monday at 3k in Maine, sneakers and "exercise pants" would have put me hypothermic very quickly.

Tragic, but what are people thinking?

Hers hoping the information is spotty and she really was prepared.

**Moeghoul** · 11-22-2022, 06:15 PM

Nice to see familiar names again after a busy spring and summer! Smuggs is opening Friday for Pass holders and resort guests, then its off to the races for everyone this weekend. Hoping the precip stays frozen in the higher elevation, will be a close call.
It took 3 springs and summers and falls, but I finally finished my deck project, sans a few tweaks, bells and whistles to wait for next spring. Tons of storage space underneath and virtually bone dry. House has sprung no leaks, cars are winterized, perimeter fence has held the hounds from escaping and everyone is healthy. I'm sittin' pretty in titty sparkle city. Hope to see a few of you this season and happy thanksgiving!

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**BC.** · 11-22-2022, 08:29 PM

Anybody know..does/will Sugarbush do their transferable quad pack anymore?

**MyNameIsAugustWest** · 11-23-2022, 06:36 AM

^ Pretty sure it was already on sale. If not available now, it could be sold out already? Paging Vt-F...

ETA: Going to Okemo today for a few runs before our trek west for the holiday (not far enough west...)

**Vt-Freeheel** · 11-23-2022, 06:55 AM

BC. missed the sale, it ended sometime last week. Also had increased in price to $499 with a new midweek option for $399, likely +tax but sure of that.

**Bottleman** · 11-23-2022, 07:57 AM

We may need a do-over on this thread in order to reset the weather pattern. If you want to have a Happy Thanksgiving you may not want to peek at the 10 day....

**cat in january** · 11-23-2022, 08:45 AM

Yeah I am beginning to cast my gaze north to the chic chocs

**Laps** · 11-23-2022, 08:56 AM

I feel like your gaze is always pointed north….unless you are glading at BMOM.

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**ex-powderbroker** · 11-23-2022, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by cat in january

Yeah I am beginning to cast my gaze north to the chic chocs

north but let’s not forget east!

14” on the ground at the visitors center currently.

**cat in january** · 11-23-2022, 09:21 AM

Yes my neck has developed a crook. Besides the mines hut I was fortunate to get four nights in the Asulkan Cabin with friends this February. There’s still two nights free for one when we are there, just saying

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**Laps** · 11-23-2022, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel

At this point there is little hope of a good outcome unless she was picked up by someone soon after her mother dropped her off. It doesn't take much winter experience to know that sneakers are a poor choice for hiking to 5200'.
Really sad as her 20th birthday is tomorrow.

Swiss women training here today.

Sounds like the radio scanners are reporting her body was found in the drainage below greenleaf hut, just in time for her birthday. So sorry for her family.

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**Vt-Freeheel** · 11-23-2022, 12:59 PM

That's rough, her birthday today and Thanksgiving tomorrow. This could be the difference between life or death.

**danmelon** · 11-23-2022, 01:28 PM

awful news

**From_the_NEK** · 11-23-2022, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Laps

Sounds like the radio scanners are reporting her body was found in the drainage below greenleaf hut, just in time for her birthday. So sorry for her family.

**T.E.O.** · 11-23-2022, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel

This could be the difference between life or death.

Maybe, depending on how much trouble the person is in when they call and what the response time is. But fundamentally, just being aware of the forecast and what the conditions require for basic clothing/gear is what new hikers need to learn. While I carry a PLB, I'd rather see people focus on prevention than getting a tool that they will rely on to get out of trouble.

It is confounding how woefully unprepared it seems that Emily Sotero was. While it may not have saved her, how do you get away with hiking as much a she had and taking a survival course—what ever that is—and not carry a headlamp, especially when you are starting in the dark? The great tragedy of Emily Sotero's death is that, like Geraldine Largay's, it was so easily preventable. It's heart-breaking.

**jhyatt** · 11-23-2022, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Laps

Sounds like the radio scanners are reporting her body was found in the drainage below greenleaf hut, just in time for her birthday. So sorry for her family.

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That's sad. We drove by there today. As others have mentioned, it doesn't add up. But at least her family has closure...

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