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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion
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11-02-2019, 03:35 PM #7251Registered User
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11-02-2019, 07:18 PM #7252
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11-02-2019, 07:39 PM #7253
ON3P SKIS Discussion
I really wish I could decide on a Jeffrey 96, 108 or a Woodsman 116.
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11-02-2019, 07:56 PM #7254
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11-02-2019, 07:57 PM #7255
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11-02-2019, 09:18 PM #7256Registered User
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Definitely buying a Billy Goat, but what else should I get?
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11-02-2019, 10:28 PM #7257Registered User
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11-03-2019, 07:10 PM #7258
If anyone is interested in some 191 Wren 114s
https://anchorage.craigslist.org/spo...009172205.html
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11-03-2019, 09:55 PM #7259
187 cat camo woodsman 108s on the way, can't wait!
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11-04-2019, 01:54 PM #7260
ON3P SKIS Discussion
Moooooaaarrrr tips
All together now
165 - J108 | 189 - BG | 189 - Great Scotts
Rocker / camber pics
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11-04-2019, 02:03 PM #7261
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11-04-2019, 02:24 PM #7262
I'll be interested to hear how/when you choose the C&D over BG or vice-versa.
They appear to have identical rocker profiles, how does the flex profile compare? I would imagine they're very similar due to the added surface area/mass of the C&D despite the "tour" layup.
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11-04-2019, 04:31 PM #7263
Shhhhh don’t tell BC.com
Underfoot and behind heel yes, they flex almost identically.
It’s the flex profile right in front of the toe and towards the tip where you notice the difference. The C&D is not soft by any means but just very round — exactly what I want in a pow stick. They should plane very well.
From my experience that pintail shape on the BG helps the tails settle down into the snow which by virtue helps the tip plane but I suspect the C&D will pop up quickly and have the whole ski above the snow vs in the snow.
Agreed — this year will be an experiment to see if there is room in the quiver for both. honestly though — I can’t see traveling without the goat as a one ski quiver. It just slays all conditions. So I think my answer is yes — room for both.
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11-04-2019, 05:36 PM #7264
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11-04-2019, 05:51 PM #7265
Ha! Well purchased the C&Ds under the guise of “needing pow skis for Japan”. So those are currently slotted.
But might slip the goats in the bag because they have inserts.
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11-04-2019, 08:52 PM #7266
“From my experience that pintail shape on the BG helps the tails settle down into the snow which by virtue helps the tip plane but I suspect the C&D will pop up quickly and have the whole ski above the snow vs in the snow.”
Last year, on a banner pow day at Whistler (waist deep), even the C&D’s didn’t stay totally above snow. Certainly plane higher than my BG’s and don’t “plow” at all (like the BG’s do in certain low-angle situations). They’re amazing and very controllable in deep snow; but I was a little surprised that they didn’t simply “float” above the pow. It was super-light, dry pow. I expected to just float above, but found myself “in” it a bit more than I had thought would happen.
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11-04-2019, 09:13 PM #7267
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11-04-2019, 09:18 PM #7268
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11-04-2019, 09:22 PM #7269
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11-04-2019, 09:23 PM #7270
Higher density snow plays to the strengths of the RES. IME
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11-04-2019, 09:44 PM #7271
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11-04-2019, 09:56 PM #7272Registered User
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Troof..
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11-06-2019, 10:23 AM #7273
This has probably been discussed before, but are the Steeple 102s a good idea for midwinter touring in the PNW? They seem a bit on the narrow side (128-102-112); how does skinny + RES work? I am generally on Huascarans (134-112-123), and I am interested in a little more charginess and better firm snow performance, but don't want to give up too much float or skintrack purchase. I have Lotus 138s for very very deep days, and ZeroG 85s for corn/mountaineering season.
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11-06-2019, 10:36 AM #7274
I had a set and sold them.
I thought they gave up too much edge on firm due to deep rocker, yet didn't float well due to width... an odd middle ground. And they were heavy, but that goes with the territory of dense core material.
I'll buy a set of ON3P touring skis again when they build them as such:
3/4 length bamboo stringers vertically laminated with pawlonia comprising 70% by volume. Carbon and glass layup as before. Flat camber. 3 width classes, say, 95/105/115 and rocker lines increasing according to width. RES for the two wider ones, bi-radius for the 95.
1800g for the 115.
A guy can hope, right????
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11-06-2019, 10:10 PM #7275
I thought the 102 was one of the more dialed shapes, but I’ve been a huge fan of RES and I ski coastal snowpack (aka wetpack). No means a piste ski, but I found that I usually walked out of my speed rads before the ski let me down. I ended up skiing them more in Japan than my 191 BG Tours, not bad pow skis. Not especially light. Keep your fingers crossed on hybrid cores.
Real benefit of the RES on the 102 was in that super shitty windscour and crusts in the BC. Hook free zipper crust rippin was fun.
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