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  1. #7726
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    That would be sweet. Now if only the bank would pay me to keep money in their bank...
    I'm getting 2% on savings... which doesn't seem too bad, all things currently considered.

  2. #7727
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBdude View Post
    inverted yield curve today
    Again?

  3. #7728
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I do wonder what they spend it on.
    They expensed $3B of R&D, $1.2B of Sales and marketing and $1.6B of G&A. R&D is the big outlier.

  4. #7729
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    ^^ a nice example of how central banks have boxed themselves in to addressing the next recession with monetary stimulus.
    Oldie but a goodie..

    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyCamper View Post
    Is anyone other than current investors rooting for this company?
    Customers getting $2 of office space for $1 thanks to stupid Saudi money subsidies. Other than that, No.

  6. #7731
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    Again?
    first time the the two year inverted against the ten since 2007

  7. #7732
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    Things are getting interesting. I just need shit to stay this side of Armageddon for about 5 more weeks until I close the sale of an investment property without spooking the buyer.

  8. #7733
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    One interesting thing about WeWork: they have a few billion in customer leases secured (future income) matched against a mountainous ~$45 billion commitment on property leases (future expenses). It would be a miracle worthy of canonizing the CEO if they stay in business through 2030.
    And it's not like their client base is the first to collapse during a downturn or anything...

    If only they had learned from uber, they would have just forced their clients to take on the leases directly while charging them a portion of rent in fees.

  9. #7734
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    Ouch!


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    buying the buildings (with OPM of course) you lease to your own company at inflated rates fed by investor money is something
    https://therealdeal.com/2019/08/01/w...n-47b-company/

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I do wonder what they spend it on.
    apparently Uber is wondering the same thing
    https://news.crunchbase.com/news/def...200k-per-year/
    This cost-cutting measure is part of a company-wide campaign, complete with its own internal hashtag: #FindTheMoney. Uber executives are soliciting ideas from their employees to find ways to reduce the company’s burn rate. In his email message, Chai credits an employee with the idea and implores others to “please keep the ideas coming.”

  12. #7737
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    Wow, Schumpeter...feels like 80 years ago I read his stuff!
    Something about the wrinkle in your forehead tells me there's a fit about to get thrown
    And I never hear a single word you say when you tell me not to have my fun
    It's the same old shit that I ain't gonna take off anyone.
    and I never had a shortage of people tryin' to warn me about the dangers I pose to myself.

    Patterson Hood of the DBT's

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    Someone mentioned the other day, maybe it was on twitter, that Uber burning through investor cash is maybe the only effective redistribution of wealth going on in the US at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cravenmorhead View Post
    Someone mentioned the other day, maybe it was on twitter, that Uber burning through investor cash is maybe the only effective redistribution of wealth going on in the US at the moment.
    Effective in what way? It's not like it's going to the drivers or anything, and the PEs and other investors are mostly still waayyyyy up, even including post IPO, and will make a profit once they liquidate.

    Mostly it's just going to fleece whoever is left holding the bag, which will be your mutual funds, pensions, retail investors, etc.

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    Effective in that it's artificially suppressing the "true" cost of a ride from Point A to Point B.

    And also it's a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyCarter View Post
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    Mostly it's just going to fleece whoever is left holding the bag, which will be your mutual funds, pensions, retail investors, etc.
    Fortunately, my mutual funds don't have Uber in the mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcsquared View Post
    Things are getting interesting. I just need shit to stay this side of Armageddon for about 5 more weeks until I close the sale of an investment property without spooking the buyer.
    WE just closed on a property, thankfully. Good luck.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    the chinese economy is slowing and the tariff spat doesn't help. there has been deflation in commodities. the shale oil market in the US has changed the entire world outlook on oil. talk about redistribution of wealth, a lot of money has gone into the oil patch and an analysis I saw on bloomberg theorized that the low price per barrel of oil has stranded three billion dollars of paper out of the six billion invested in shale paper. Note: the shale boom has been fueled by borrowing

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    Fortunately, my mutual funds don't have Uber in the mix.
    You'd be surprised how many do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    One interesting thing about WeWork: they have a few billion in customer leases secured (future income) matched against a mountainous ~$45 billion commitment on property leases (future expenses). It would be a miracle worthy of canonizing the CEO if they stay in business through 2030.
    Mismatched maturities. History may not be repeating, but it’s certainly rhyming.

    Also, the President trying to gun the market on a tick be tick basis is embarrassing.
    Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    CEO had the company pay him $5.9M for the new name.Attachment 291210
    most likely a fucking psychopath
    skid luxury

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    CEO had the company pay him $5.9M for the new name.Attachment 291210
    That price seems extremely low actually, knowing how these things are priced.

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    So how concerned are we all with today's 3%? More of the same, or time to rethink the vacation and put cash under the mattress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mall walker View Post
    So how concerned are we all with today's 3%? More of the same, or time to rethink the vacation and put cash under the mattress?
    It's anybody's guess. So it goes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-bear View Post
    most likely a fucking psychopath



    The term is sociopath. A rich sociopath.

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