Is the stock market going to tank?

**4matic** · 07-31-2019, 12:53 PM

Game on. Market has fed by the balls now if vol picks up

**Marshall Tucker** · 08-01-2019, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by Kevo

Haven't you heard?

yes

Originally Posted by Kevo

No one is buying mutual funds anymore. It's been proven countless times that it is impossible to beat the market consistently, so index funds

an index fund isn't a mutual fund ?

Originally Posted by Kevo

VBTLX

that's what I needed

thx

**iceman** · 08-01-2019, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Marshall Tucker

an index fund isn't a mutual fund ?

Yeah I was scratching my head at his comment a little, an index fund is definitely a mutual fund.

**Danno** · 08-01-2019, 08:33 AM

It is a mutual fund, but it is a subset that is different. He means actively managed funds.

**Timberridge** · 08-01-2019, 08:36 AM

Perhaps he's just confused on active vs. passive funds.

**iceman** · 08-01-2019, 08:58 AM

Nobody goes there any more, it's too crowded.

**Marshall Tucker** · 08-01-2019, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

It is a mutual fund,

BINGO

**4matic** · 08-01-2019, 11:24 AM

10y bouncing along 1.95%. Looks like another leg lower.

Edit: Spoke too soon.. 1.89% now. Not too far from all time low

**Stu Gotz** · 08-01-2019, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by 4matic

10y bouncing along 1.95%. Looks like another leg lower.

Edit: Spoke too soon.. 1.89% now. Not too far from all time low

“I will get that extra 25bps if I have to take the economy straight to hell!!” - Orange Jesus.

**retirwntm** · 08-01-2019, 12:20 PM

^^^Where is the like button?

It’s like watching the don(ald) talk to the police about letting a friend go.

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**Cono Este** · 08-01-2019, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by k2skier112

I have a SEP mutual fund, with the market being on an (unsustainable) upswing I wanted to take some of the mutual funds and buy Bond funds for a more secure and stable investment. When I started researching the funds, within The Capitol Group, American Funds, I see there's even a fair amount of risk in Bond funds. I thought bonds were super stable, dopes the fact it's in a fund and not a stand alone bond change the volatility? Is it a good investment to move a SEP to Bond fund?

You need to look up “duration”. The longer the maturities in your mutual fund the more sensitive it is to interest rate moves. Mutual funds generally blow in all regards, especially taxes.

But buying individual bonds, you’re also getting ripped off. The dealers all scalp them 5 times first before they make into the retail books.

Bonds are one the the few cases where’s I’d pay a separate account manager if I had alot of dough. They buy in size, so you get the close to the actual coupon, but you actually own the individual paper.

Call PIMCO or Black Rock yourself if you have 10mm or more. Skip Advisor douches.

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**SkiCougar** · 08-01-2019, 03:26 PM

as of today, if you stayed fully investing in the s+p index, you have made less than 1% from its October 2018 high, that's approximately 10 months.

could turn around tomorrow on some rumor but given august and September are historically the worst two months for the stock market; quite easy to see the return October 2018 to October 2019 being zero.

**Benny Profane** · 08-01-2019, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by SkiCougar

as of today, if you stayed fully investing in the s+p index, you have made less than 1% from its October 2018 high, that's approximately 10 months.

could turn around tomorrow on some rumor but given august and September are historically the worst two months for the stock market; quite easy to see the return October 2018 to October 2019 being zero.

You ever hear of dividends?

**skaredshtles** · 08-01-2019, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by SkiCougar

as of today, if you stayed fully investing in the s+p index, you have made less than 1% from its October 2018 high, that's approximately 10 months.

could turn around tomorrow on some rumor but given august and September are historically the worst two months for the stock market; quite easy to see the return October 2018 to October 2019 being zero.

<picks some arbitrary dates that fits some biased narrative>

Well gosh... gollee... look at that. You're right. So what would you suggest? Bitcoin?

**4matic** · 08-04-2019, 07:40 PM

Yuan down 1.2% tonight. Fresh 7 year low 7.1 USD. US 10Y 1.79%.

**SumJongGuy** · 08-04-2019, 08:08 PM

Gun and ammo sales ought to be strong this week. Will stocks reflect the bump? Trade war might push everything else down though..

**Tips^Up** · 08-04-2019, 10:15 PM

sweet. sounds like stocks will be on sale this week, good timing to start our newborn's 529.

**Stu Gotz** · 08-04-2019, 10:23 PM

Its gonna run. The amount of capital fleeing China over the next few weeks will significant.

**dunfree** · 08-04-2019, 10:38 PM

4matics boy Elon is going to take it from the shorts.

**4matic** · 08-04-2019, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by dunfree

4matics boy Elon is going to take it from the shorts.

I've all along said the stock price could drop. Don't be like spook and drag your obsessive shit to every thread.

**dunfree** · 08-04-2019, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by 4matic

I've all along said the stock price could drop. Don't be like spook and drag your obsessive shit to every thread.

own your shit, unlike your boi elon. He's a grifter shill and you are just a mook licking his "founder" taint. I thought you were smarter than this.

instead it's a SV db who can't get it's a shit company run buy an asshole.

**4matic** · 08-04-2019, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by dunfree

own your shit, unlike your boi elon. He's a grifter shill and you are just a mook licking his "founder" taint. I thought you were smarter than this.

You're kind of obsessed with failure and jealousy like spook. You even type in lower case like he does. Quite odd the similarity.

**4matic** · 08-04-2019, 11:07 PM

Chart of the ten year. It's really near the all time low. Quickly headed for all time low.
https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/?symbol=US10Y

**SumJongGuy** · 08-05-2019, 08:06 AM

Oh oh...

**mcsquared** · 08-05-2019, 08:43 AM

As someone who has been doubling down on the VIX everytime it has inexplicably (to me at least) dropped I would like to say that it is about damn time.