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Thread: Fritschi Tecton
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12-01-2018, 10:20 AM #776
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12-01-2018, 10:55 AM #777
Who did you email? I never got a tracking number or confirmation email but I paid through PayPal...
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12-01-2018, 10:59 AM #778
This is awesome. V clear. Now let's see them with the blue inserts! Lol
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12-01-2018, 11:18 AM #779
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12-01-2018, 01:11 PM #780
I’m surprised that I wasn’t more happy with them, but the walk range is pretty uninspiring. I just did a very informal bench session and found they’ve got almost thirty degrees less forward range than radical toes, with Vulcans or tlt6. The Difference between those boots is only about 4 degrees, Vulcans aren’t really better. I’d love to see how far Lee ground them too, but I’m reluctant to do it to a brand new binding. I’m going to miss the heel, but the touring range isn’t cutting it for me. Might have to go back to lighter stuff.
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12-01-2018, 04:02 PM #781
Riff -maybe the newest gen toe will not inhibit your ROM as much? Perhaps you can check it at a shop?
Or you could swap for some “Black” gen Vipecs plus cash with me, and reuse the mounting holes? I assume these would not interfere as you can swap the bumper pieces based on your boot.
Bummer your current bindings have a compatibility issue.
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12-01-2018, 05:02 PM #782
I’m betting the new toe would be better, but I doubt it can be had without a new pair. I replaced both pairs of kingpins last year, hoping this was the fix. Maybe the new bumper will become an aftermarket part...thanks for the offer, but the heel was the primary appeal for me, otherwise I’ll probably go back to radical toes and light race heels.
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12-01-2018, 05:11 PM #783
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12-01-2018, 05:36 PM #784Registered User
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I'm not doubting you or calling you out, but this seems odd. I can see it with the super light/no toe lug boots, but not so much with Vulcans and other boots. Lots of people have lots of days on these and I don't recall hearing any complaints as far as range of motion. Forward falling and envaginating boots? Sure, though it hasn't happened to the majority of users.
I have lots of days on mine. The only time the toe bumper ever comes into play is during steep kickturns, and I actually like being able to bounce the tail around off of the bumper sometimes. Other than that I never notice it and can't imagine extending my stride to the point where I would. I'm long of leg, 6' 1" and ski these with Maestrale RS. YM obviously varies, but I wonder if there isn't something being missed/awry? It'd suck to write these off based on an anomaly, as they've been great bindings for lots of users.
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12-01-2018, 06:03 PM #785
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12-01-2018, 06:05 PM #786
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12-01-2018, 06:52 PM #787
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12-01-2018, 07:00 PM #788
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12-01-2018, 07:18 PM #789
Difference between Tecton/Vipec and Ion. So yeah, there is a significant difference, but note that the boot here is in ski mode, so you would get all the additional forward lean of the boot in tour mode. So yeah, the Ion has much more forward pivot range, but most of the difference is unusable (I imagine the same would be true for Radicals). Curious if my pic matches up to riff's bench test (with Vulcans?). If he had the toes in ski mode, the forward pivot is definitely reduced even further.
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12-01-2018, 07:19 PM #790
Fritschi Tecton
Hang on, the issue with ROM is the binding? I’m literally confused and asking... seems like you’d have to have some huge fucking strides for that to be an issue?
I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.
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12-01-2018, 07:35 PM #791
That's my conclusion too. There are some squaredoff toebox boots where the forward ROM is really limited. But you can see in my pic of the Mercury and gavin's pic of the Vulcan ( which are pretty standard toeboxes) that it doesn't come into play for normal ROM of a tour stride. What am I missing?
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12-01-2018, 07:45 PM #792
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12-01-2018, 07:56 PM #793
I did the bench test to compare after skinning a full day and being bummed. I’ll be getting out again tomorrow, maybe I’ll get used to it. I did the bench tests in tour mode, with the bumper forwards. It only bothered me on kick turns with high lifters, and on the back leg on longer strides on low angle tracks. I’d hit it every step. And it literally took ten minutes on admittedly terrible skinning surface to punch in the toe, didn’t even fall.
The lack of complaints is part of my surprise; leaving the sled it reminded me of duke style range, hitting the end of the travel so soon. I didn’t even try it at home because I’d heard nothing to make me expect it. Anyway, maybe its just has to be Vulcans or nothing. Thanks for the pics and advice, I’ll look closer on a bigger screen.
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12-01-2018, 08:06 PM #794
Vulcans would probably help. I imagine issues with hitting the bumper when skinning would be style-dependent (I would think really long strides or picking up your feet would cause more issues). Are you skinning with the tongues in the boots? Might have better luck without the tongues in the TLT6s to get more ROM out of your boots so you're less reliant on the bindings to maximize that. Still a sucky issue though, I wish BD had made it more clear that this was a possibility. As it is I'll probably be looking to change boots next season.
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12-01-2018, 08:13 PM #795
Hey gavin this is the OG bumper. I get about maybe 5 to 10 deg more with bumper ground down. Not really all that much more. I'll shoot a pic for nickel and you
Riff not giving you a hard time but I haven't had issues hitting Vulcan ZeroG MtnLab HawX Lupo with Tecton or Vipec toe skinning or kickturns
But all in all definitely agree that Fritschi BD could have should have communicated better that the toe bumper feature was deliberate and the toe punch possibility.
New toes are hitting Noram sometime this month. I'll tear them down and see how they're different and if any more mods are possible
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12-01-2018, 08:30 PM #796
No worries Lee, mostly just curious about the consensus. I’ll get out with the Vulcans sooner or later.
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12-01-2018, 09:24 PM #797Registered User
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12-02-2018, 09:14 PM #798
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12-02-2018, 09:15 PM #799Registered User
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12-03-2018, 04:12 PM #800
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