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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion
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09-11-2018, 10:04 PM #4601tinkerer
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09-11-2018, 10:28 PM #4602King potato
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09-14-2018, 01:55 PM #4603Registered User
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I am pleasantly surprised at how well those light blue C&Ds came out - they look absolutely awesome! Veneers always look good imo
I don't know if one can embed vimeo-videos directly, but since the number of plays on these (especially Rex') indicates that most people have yet to seem them - and they seem like a perfect pre-season stoke rutine by my standards at least - I will just post the links. Especially Rex' are pretty awesome imo, but some damn solid skiing in the mix tapes as well. The best part - all of it is freeriding
Rex Alaska:
Rex Oregon:
ON3P Mix-Tape 1:
ON3P Mix-Tape vol 2:
edit: eh, nm, some automagic stuff happened there when i posted em
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09-14-2018, 03:05 PM #4604
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09-14-2018, 03:11 PM #4605Registered User
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Solid skiing. Thanks for posting.
"Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers
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09-14-2018, 05:08 PM #4606Registered User
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Wrenegade 98 East Coast
Does anybody ride the Wrenegade 98 as an east coast daily driver?
Thinking about hanging up the park skis as the daily driver and moving over to something like this. What would you say to convince me to go with a Wren over a Kartel or vice versa?
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09-14-2018, 05:26 PM #4607Registered User
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09-14-2018, 05:43 PM #4608
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09-14-2018, 05:47 PM #4609Registered User
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Wren Kartel
I've thought about it.
I also ski a Ranger 108 TI which I really enjoy for its ability to lock in and rail turns, but feels too big for my needs on the east coast. Rarely (probably never) have skied it in conditions that called for a 108 underfoot ski except for when I took it to Alta / Snowbird.
Here's what I'm thinking:
1) Keep my park ski (Armada AR6) and sell my Ranger 108 and replace it with a Wrenegade 98
2) Buy a Kartel 98 and eventually have this become my one ski quiver (maybe I sell the Rangers, maybe I don't. I would definitely keep the AR6 but I could see it being phased out of daily use)
Out of the Wren and the Kartel, which one handles ice better?
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09-14-2018, 06:35 PM #4610
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09-14-2018, 06:42 PM #4611
Stock build: the Wren 96
Custom build: a stiff K96 would do just fine, might want to extend the length on the sharpened edge tho
Comes down to what you want out of the ski...
pop off features all over the mountain? Ski switch frequently? Enjoy the feeling of twin tip skis? Kartel 96
Carve groomers all day? go Mach looney? launch straight-on airs at 10,000 mph? Wrenegade 96
jusy my opinion tho. It’s been a long time since I’ve had to deal with super icy conditions (grew up skiing in Wisconsin/Michigan)
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09-14-2018, 07:11 PM #4612Registered User
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I think I'm somewhere in between.
I like the playfulness of a twin, and enjoy being able to land switch, but rarely make more than 1 or 2 switch turns before reverting back around to riding forwards. I definitely like popping off features. Moguls, side hits, mini golf cliffs... spend most of my time now looking for things I can jump off of.
But, I love making big locked in GS style turns. Used to have a pair of GS skis that I bought dirt cheap on craigslist and would pull them out for groomer days. Nothing makes a smooth groomer more fun than a ski like that, but ultimately sold them because they weren't fun in any other conditions or area of the mountain.
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09-14-2018, 07:29 PM #4613
This reason is why I built my K98’s the way I did. Veneer, extra carbon and 22oz fiberglass. They have the backbone of a directional charger with the fun of an all-mtn twin tip. The layup stiffened the tips/tails at the cost of easy butters (which I never do anyway), but enables them to blast thru leftovers, crap snow, lay trenches on the groomer on re-frozen no-new-snow days, and generally allow me to have fun anywhere, anytime on the mountain.
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09-14-2018, 08:09 PM #4614
that’s exactly what i want
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09-14-2018, 08:21 PM #4615Registered User
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Thanks for the input man. Really appreciate it
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09-14-2018, 10:12 PM #4616
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09-14-2018, 11:05 PM #4617
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09-15-2018, 08:19 AM #4618
Shroomer ain't the impulsive open wallet against which I have taken a weak stand.
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09-15-2018, 08:53 AM #4619Registered User
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09-15-2018, 01:52 PM #4620
I would ski the 98 Wren before you buy it. I bought the 98 last year and I couldn't get comfortable on it and others have said the same, other people love it. I just kept going back to the car for my Brahmas. I am going to have our race team tech grind it and tune it this fall and try again. Just way too much edge for me always feels like it is going rip my knees to shreds even after lots of hand tuning. The 108 Wren gets more universal acclaim. Also my friend bought the 88 Wren and it is a Brahma on steroids. So...much...fun straight from the factory. Also I have 16/17 Billy Goats and I loved them straight from the plastic.
Ymmv.
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09-15-2018, 03:09 PM #4621
2017 Wren 98 was my go to firm snow ski last season. I skied a ton at Burke so lots of groomer bombing but quick enough in the woods too. Added the 2018 Wren 108 this off season so can’t yet provide a comparison.
I find the 98s to be plenty narrow for groomer/ec dd. Dig speed but also shut it down pretty quickly and are pretty nimble for being marketed as directional. Chargy but not a charger. Stock flex works well for me at 170. I think others have done a good job comparing Wren to Kartel. Wrens suit my style well.Uno mas
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09-15-2018, 04:47 PM #4622
Honestly, this sounds like tune more than the skis. We find the Wren 98 to be pretty easy going for a directional ski, and obviously pretty rare for people describe our skis as wanting to rip their knees to shreds.
Send em back to the factory if you want us to take a look. Happy to help. I can email you a label. Most techs run our skis far too sharp and without a proper detune through the rocker, so happy to do it ourselves.
Let me know.Seriously, this can’t turn into yet another ON3P thread....
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09-15-2018, 05:46 PM #4623
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09-15-2018, 05:53 PM #4624
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09-15-2018, 06:14 PM #4625
My last 3 skis were Gotamas/Shiros/Confession.....so, going Wren 108 is going skinny....lol.
I am giving them a shot based on discussion and research I have done on the ski. TGR is a great resource to pull ideas from. The Wren 108 sounds perfect for how I like to ski and will hopefully perform as I think they will. I will keep them well tuned, and If I like them....next year, I plan on getting some BG's to build a quiver of skis I can enjoy for awhile.
I take enough trips to NY/VT and a couple out west every winter to justify >100 planks. If it is truly shitty icy.....I just grab something skinny from the shop and ski it.....or I just stay home. No worries,....whatever.
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