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Thread: Whats up with Lithic Skis?
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11-18-2017, 11:08 AM #26Registered User
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11-18-2017, 11:12 AM #27Registered User
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11-18-2017, 11:23 AM #28
Cool stuff. Are the ski weights anywhere on your website? That’s always helpful info, especially for the BC models.
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11-18-2017, 11:52 AM #29Registered User
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For sure, those specs are something we're currently in the process of compiling. There is some extrapolation involved since we've not made every iteration of our skis in every length and model but we'll do our best to get that information out soon. In the meantime, however, let me know what model and length you're somewhat interested in and we'll get a weight to you if we have it.
Cheers
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11-18-2017, 12:40 PM #30
What kind of weights are you getting on the 187 ramblin jack?
Could be a goldilocks touring ski for me. Got any demos?
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11-18-2017, 01:04 PM #31Registered User
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Rad, thanks!
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11-18-2017, 01:06 PM #32Registered User
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LVS told me about you guys last year and I have been watching your product line since.
I figured your were from the Praxis crew since your shapes are similar.
The ProTest is my hands down favorite soft snow ski. I immediately noticed the similarity in the Guthrie as well as the Arlo. A better ProTest sounds unpossible but I'm willing to give'er a try. I will be for sure following this thread to hear more about your builds and future designs.
Planning on coming out to mission to ski with LVS this winter and wouldn't mind demoing some skis. Maybe we can make arrangements so a few of us mags can make the trip and you guys can shred with us and geek out on skis for the day.
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11-18-2017, 01:06 PM #33Registered User
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Unfortunately, no demos on that ski at the moment but hopefully later this winter. That ski, with our BC core is coming in just over 7 lbs. It’s a ridiculously good BC ski!
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11-18-2017, 01:08 PM #34Registered User
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That all sounds great...we’ll definitely get you on some skis even if I have to unmount my personal Arlos and throw our demo bindings on them. Keep me posted on your visit. We really really like skiing!
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11-18-2017, 02:19 PM #36
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11-18-2017, 02:38 PM #37
^my thoughts exactly. Must be good dudes; they like good music.
"... when I turn, I just hope it hits me in the face."--Shroder Baker/Under the Influence
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11-18-2017, 06:16 PM #38
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11-18-2017, 06:21 PM #39
Hey all, the Lithic guys just gave me a heads up about this thread so I figured I'd better chime in. I've been skiing with them and hanging out in the shop a fair bit over the last two seasons, and I was fortunate enough to be involved in developing the Ramblin' Jack last winter. I'm putting myself out there to answer pm's and so forth from you guys about the lineup, and when I get a minute I'll put up some design philosophy about the Jacks. I'll have a pair of 181's with kingpins mounted for a 296 if you want take them for a spin at Stevens.
Cheers!
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11-18-2017, 06:22 PM #40
Plus some scenery stoke from the Stevens backside today !
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11-18-2017, 07:06 PM #41Banned
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The ash/basswood sounds like deans old skis. (H20g) I know they were being pressed/built by praxis, you worked/learned there. Totally makes sense.
If you can build or have a ski anything like the Kodiak it's full of win. Best ski I ever been on. Still pissed I sold em
Good luck. Sounds like you're on the right track.
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11-19-2017, 07:42 AM #42
That Prine 108 really perks me up. Looks like just a fun ski. Any further comment on it? Thanks
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11-19-2017, 10:38 AM #43
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11-19-2017, 10:56 AM #44Banned
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Those practices work well when you're dealing with a very small volume of skis, but I believe it is far more common for skis to be paired at QC based on weight, camber, rocker height/length and possibly flex.
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11-19-2017, 11:10 AM #45Banned
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Whats up with Lithic Skis?
Weight is good for inbounds skis!!!
1900g/ski is WAYYY too light for me on a 110mm waist, inbounds ski. My thinnest, 92mm skis weigh 2100g/ski.
I would love to hop onboard, but need more weight!
Soft and heavy cores make for the best “playful charger” skis, at least IMO. I would take that any day over stiff/light.
Not trying to knock on you, I just dont want you to forget about all the clydesdale skiers from the get go..Looking forward to buying your beefiest, baddest ski in the future! Needs to be at least 2350g/ski in a wider ski, before I even consider buying.
Good Luck!
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11-19-2017, 02:23 PM #46
Dude these guys can rip on skis, don't get twisted up on weights. They aren't building some rando twig. A combination of weight, materials, shape, camber etc make the difference in a skis in snow feel.
(Oh and ps, the lithic guys and I both agree that more mass to skis is better than less. We've had multiple conversations about it. In fact for their bc skis they've made them a bit heavier than they theroretically could, to improve downhill performance.)
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11-19-2017, 02:53 PM #47Registered User
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Unless we’re skiing we are in the shop daily. My email is on our site. Give me a heads up of when you’re wanting to come by and we’ll try to make it work.
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11-19-2017, 02:55 PM #48Registered User
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It’s a great daily driver. Quick edge to edge, can hold a nice carve but can also release our if a turn nicely if you like throwing your skis sideways. I’d consider it one of our more playful models but with our core makeup it still has a damp feel.
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11-19-2017, 03:16 PM #49Registered User
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We completely agree with you on most of these points. However, I tend to lean towards medium stiff and somewhat heavy for an inbounds charger. Everyone skis differently, though. If you plan on riding chairs then weight shouldn’t be a consideration at all, in my opinion. That’s coming from someone who only skis pivot 18s on every ski I ride.
The reason we don’t particularly like carbon in skis is precisely because that composite gives you that stiff/light dynamic that gets deflected by the slightest snow variation (and breaks easily!)...I think we are on the same page in that regard.
And, honestly, if you’re not going on mega tours, I tend to steer folks towards our inbounds core makeup for their touring rig. That’s what I tour on and get about 25 backcountry days in a year. However, if I’m on a volcano mission I’ll lighten things up, for sure.
Our beefiest and widest ski is our Guthrie 120 and the first iteration of that ski was super burly, fast and really badass...honestly, though, my legs couldn’t even ski them until February last winter. We’ve chilled that one out a bit by tweaking the core thickness and have found a really happy medium. However, if anyone is a bigger person, who skis strongly we can make adjustments to our flex, which correlated to our weight, to accommodate. It’s a simple email request and it’s done.
Hope some of these thoughts help.
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11-19-2017, 03:18 PM #50Registered User
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That sounds like a really bad way to do it but I suppose it happens. However, most presses that are worth their weight can press a pair at a time.
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