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    Quote Originally Posted by Garth Bimble View Post
    It's sort of a "right tool for the right job" kind of thing. In theory, you can use a hammer to drive a screw and you can use the handle of a screwdriver to pound a nail but these aren't the ideal uses for those tools. The same goes for the mattress as a couch back. It'll work, but that's not what it was designed for. As for the "set" issue, you'll still have to deal with it because you're focusing pressure on a relatively small area of the mattress which is not what it was designed to handle. Even though it's not a tremendous amount of pressure over time it will add up. There is always the option of flipping it around though, this helps keep the wear evenly distributed. A firmer, higher quality mattress might hold up better but from a comfort standpoint, in this application anyway, it might not be what you're looking for. Another matter is aesthetics, if having a mattress sticking out of the back of your couch is OK then no big deal but if you want it to look good you'll need to cover it. You'll probably need to cover it anyway because mattress covers (ticking) aren't stain resistant, are hard to clean and will wear more quickly than standard upholstery.

    FWIW, I used to work for the largest manufacturer of innersprings and sofa sleeper mechanisms in the world. We were always looking for something more comfortable but the bottom line on the sofa-mechs was cost...most residential customers used them only occasionally so they weren't willing to spend big $$$ for something that might be better than the standard design. There was a sizeable commercial market though in hotels and other rental properties. The problem here though was that even with a lengthy warranty on a "commercial grade" unit, most properties were lucky to get 2 years out of a mechanism because the guests/housekeepers would try to close them with the bedding still inside. This would cause the mechanism to lock up so they would try and force it closed which would blow out not only the mechanism but the couch frame as well. That isn't covered under the warranty so they didn't wan't to pay extra bucks for something that they knew they'd need to replace anyway. There was always a niche market out there for something like you're talking about and perhaps it's growing now with this tiny house bullshit so maybe manufacturers will pay more attention to it.

    And you're right, day beds suck unless you're 6, for the same reason...mattresses used as sitting surfaces. We made those too.
    I hear you. I can't really disagree. I have no idea which way I am going to go. However, at the end of the summer, I will need to do something since the current bed frame in that location will be used elsewhere. The Lori Wall Bed is an interesting option.
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    What about something like this?
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    With something like this the sofa sitting area is the foot area of the bed. It could be made with different foam in the two areas and might not have a lot of the problems that Garth was talking about. Your feet wouldn't notice the ass dents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todds View Post
    What about something like this?
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    This is sort of similar to one version of the mods I had in mind for a Lori Wall Bed. Mine would be horizontal. It requires more cushions however it removes the mattress as a cushion which is nice.

    With something like this the sofa sitting area is the foot area of the bed. It could be made with different foam in the two areas and might not have a lot of the problems that Garth was talking about. Your feet wouldn't notice the ass dents.
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    Ya, cute, but no. And the space I have calls for a long sofa, not a wide chair.
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    Probably not what you're looking for because some of the seat cushions double as the sleeping surface but it might not be too bad...

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    https://www.honestmattressreviews.co...eviews-update/

    It seems purple bought their "system" from intelibed who didn't really care for it. It uses a polymer sphere dust in the core, so the bed expands back after removal from the packaging and people can end up breathing the polymer spheres in.

    A little guy figured that out and Purple sued him to shut him up but "honest mattress reviews" won in court.

    I wonder if the guys working there will get popcorn lung or something?
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    Anyone got a Leesa? It looks interesting.
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    Shit. I meant Helix. Anyone got a Helix? Customizable and better for heavier sleepers.
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    Finally built a nice platform for our diy latex mattress and I couldn't be more stoked.

    Organic latex mattresses. 9" final thickness.

    Best bed ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    Anyone got a Leesa? It looks interesting.
    We're about 2 weeks in on a Leesa. Really like it so far. Can sleep on my side w/o pressure points or on my back w/ good alignment. Wife is picky and she likes it.

    We ordered it on a Tuesday night it was delivered Thursday afternoon. Let it air out for a day and it was good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exsparky View Post
    https://www.honestmattressreviews.co...eviews-update/

    It seems purple bought their "system" from intelibed who didn't really care for it. It uses a polymer sphere dust in the core, so the bed expands back after removal from the packaging and people can end up breathing the polymer spheres in.

    A little guy figured that out and Purple sued him to shut him up but "honest mattress reviews" won in court.

    I wonder if the guys working there will get popcorn lung or something?
    Good to know. This bed was at the top of my list. Casper is another bed-in-a-box company that has taken a reviewer to court over a "bad" review.

    For now my sights are set on Ghostbed, because they actually deliver within Canada.
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    Ghostbed- tech specs page.

    Top Comfort Layer 1.5 “ of 3.5 pound density continuous aerated latex
    Middle Cooling Layer 2” of 4 pound density gel cooling memory foam
    Base Support Layer 7.5” of 2 pound high density foam
    ^ I think their top layer is too light.


    I have a Juna mattress, I liked the energex foam better and it uses 4 layers and a pad. You can zip it open and change the feel by moving the layers and it has heavier/better foam than the Ghostbed.

    www.junasleep.com/juna-mattress

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    Quote Originally Posted by exsparky View Post
    Ghostbed- tech specs page.

    Top Comfort Layer 1.5 “ of 3.5 pound density continuous aerated latex
    Middle Cooling Layer 2” of 4 pound density gel cooling memory foam
    Base Support Layer 7.5” of 2 pound high density foam
    ^ I think their top layer is too light.


    I have a Juna mattress, I liked the energex foam better and it uses 4 layers and a pad. You can zip it open and change the feel by moving the layers and it has heavier/better foam than the Ghostbed.

    www.junasleep.com/juna-mattress
    How do you know it's better foam? Heavier always equals better?
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    I pulled the trigger on a ghostbed.

    Been on it for 4 nights now. Way firmer than I expected. Haven't had a decent sleep since. My back hurts, and it never used to. The mattress smells funny and has a pattern on the cover that telegraphs through my sheets and makes me look like a waffle in the morning. I know any new mattress takes some time to break in and get used to, so the jury is still out. It Definitely doesn't feel like it's solid foam.
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    A mattress pad will take care of the pattern issue. You should have one just to protect your mattress if nothing else.
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    Strongly considering a Helix mattress.
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    http://www.sleepjunkie.org/are-memor...ttresses-safe/

    You couldn't pay me enough to sleep on foam. Toxic garbage

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    i sleep better in my hammock tent than i have on any mattress in a long time. i'm in pain after 3 hours regardless of the mattress. i'm about to give up on mattresses.

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    Pulled the trigger on a Helix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer View Post
    http://www.sleepjunkie.org/are-memor...ttresses-safe/

    You couldn't pay me enough to sleep on foam. Toxic garbage
    I guessing you don't sous vide your eggs then either?

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    Just saw this - never heard of it before:

    Avocado Green Mattress
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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    Just saw this - never heard of it before:

    Avocado Green Mattress
    Just a latex mattress with organic cover and a cool name.

    Seriously though, now that I've slept on latex I hope I never have to sleep on anything else again for more than a few days on vacation

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    Bought a Verlo V5 king pillow top, double sided mattress. Got a friend of a friend deal here in Boulder. Wasn't expecting to like a pillow top but I kept going back to this one (and the $2800 one as well!).

    Zero sciatica pain since this was delivered and I can even sleep on my back a little, not just my side. The beauty rest was my next choice.


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    We have a pricey Sterns and Foster mattress that is 10-13 years old, so it is time. Reading through this thread and looking at the mattresses mentioned, I am uncertain what to buy. I like the L&L as it is the thickest at 12 inches (closest to what we now have) but I also like the Panges Bed description, which at $795 for a queen is just a smokin deal compared to what we previously paid.

    I like the sound of the latex material as I need the bed as cool as possible and the copper infusion helping to kill some germs sounds like an added bonus if it really works.

    Presently, I toss and turn like a mofo. I attribute that to my two dorked out shoulders, so can anyone with these beds take a moment to comment on the bed now that they have had it for awhile?
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    Huh? Where did PowderHorse's post go? Was going to reply. Oh well.... let me just say for the 100th time I LOVE MY BEAUTYREST BLACK!

    (I got the middle child of five models - not pillow top, luxury firm. Side/back/front sleeper. I'm all over the place!)

    Edit: I swear her post wasn't there when I posted this but now I see it. Fork..... going nutz or something......
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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    We have a pricey Sterns and Foster mattress that is 10-13 years old, so it is time. Reading through this thread and looking at the mattresses mentioned, I am uncertain what to buy. I like the L&L as it is the thickest at 12 inches (closest to what we now have) but I also like the Panges Bed description, which at $795 for a queen is just a smokin deal compared to what we previously paid.

    I like the sound of the latex material as I need the bed as cool as possible and the copper infusion helping to kill some germs sounds like an added bonus if it really works.

    Presently, I toss and turn like a mofo. I attribute that to my two dorked out shoulders, so can anyone with these beds take a moment to comment on the bed now that they have had it for awhile?
    I'm very pleased with my Pangea. Right firmness and nice construction. I do think it sleeps warmer than my ol' regular mattress but nothing dramatic. I'm in the SW so your climate and experience may vary.

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