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  1. #9526
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTskibum View Post
    Ride-it, agreed too much flow sometimes, not enough techy OG nonsense. I love fresh deadfall. Came up to this one back in the spring and cleared off just enough to make it rideable. Was expecting it to get fully cut out quickly, fortunately they only chopped out a go-around and left the main line, you can see the fresh cut. I do a lot of trail work and do the same. Don’t ramp, learn the bump jump.



    Edit - Rode my local lunch loop and counted 15 log-overs in 6 miles. Ranging from 6" to about 2', many of which are optional, especially the bigger ones.

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    I love riding back East for this reason! And yes, I was being serious. Love that kind of ‘mock-trials’ riding, it separated the niños from the chicos!
    But yes, RA, like everything, they have to exist in the context of the rest of the trail character.
    That was precisely my point about Rocky Mountain riders not encountering much of it, unless you explore a bunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona13 View Post
    I'm not a fan of natural wood speed bumps. They can be especially annoying with the new bikes and the low and slack geo.
    I could see including features like them tho on a slow, sort of semi awkward tech trail if people are into that.
    But on a fast ripper? Like they force ya to grab a bunch of brake in the middle of some flowy fun? I saw em out.
    Just rode a trail nearby and some of them on a steeper trail got ramped up with dirt on the down and a log at the bottom so can be ridden as a drop/jump or roll-down or a ramped step-up. Definitely keeps the flow, but like Ride-it said has to fit the character of the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona13 View Post
    But on a fast ripper? Like they force ya to grab a bunch of brake in the middle of some flowy fun? I saw em out.
    No, they force you to learn how to get your bike into the air real quick-like. Lotta trees over her, blowdowns are a fact of life. You either get annoyed or have fun with them.
    Remind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.

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    Been slacking lately.
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    Love the kid, especially daughter, stoke!

    Have to drive my son down to new school ~40 min away, so have a new local trail system to get wired.






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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    I love riding back East for this reason! And yes, I was being serious. Love that kind of ‘mock-trials’ riding, it separated the niños from the chicos!
    But yes, RA, like everything, they have to exist in the context of the rest of the trail character.
    That was precisely my point about Rocky Mountain riders not encountering much of it, unless you explore a bunch.
    Ahh, I c. The Rocky Mountain riding being mostly of the big and wide open variety a fallen tree doesn't always fit in very well. I also dig the EC riding style. It's very busy and makes good use of smaller areas. You don't have to get in the same sort of mileage to get a good ride in. I'm starting next month on a similar system I designed in Kingman. It's all hand built Mojave desert terrain that is slowish riding and what I'm calling semi-awkward tech flow. It's completely different than the stuff I've been doing since May at East Zion. The Kingman system is called the White Cliffs trail system and will have some really incredible slick rock stuff with plenty of very steep rock rollers, airy ledge traverses and fun balance testing moves through massive rocks and boulders. It's only going to be around 7.5 miles total but it's set up to sort of session short, bidirectional loops giving people options for very short rides or much longer ones with a bit of creative thinking and repeats. There is one short, technical directional trail in the system that has a wicked steep slab on it to sharp, fish hook corner at the bottom that I think will get the local riding community fired up there.

    Here's a few pics of some trail we did there a couple years ago. There's a lower loop and an upper loop mostly in lower terrain in this small canyon that will give access to the stuff up higher. Once up on the mesa it's probably 75% slick rock riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvan View Post
    ^Beauty pics, the lot of em.

    Few from the other day. Photo Credit: Friendly Strangers.

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    That looks fun. Where is that?

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    Yeah, Idk. I hate blowdowns. I think they're just annoying and don't contribute to the trail at all unless you spin it and make it a skinny. We have plenty of tech riding and I don't consider a blow down tech at all. Sure you can improve your bunny hops, but meh, not for me on a trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    Yeah, Idk. I hate blowdowns. I think they're just annoying and don't contribute to the trail at all unless you spin it and make it a skinny. We have plenty of tech riding and I don't consider a blow down tech at all. Sure you can improve your bunny hops, but meh, not for me on a trail.
    Speed bumps.
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    Leaves are slowing turning and the orchard is fat with apples, nothing beats fall in New England. Cider Doughnuts are power food, for real.
    From this evening in the Shire
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona13 View Post
    Ahh, I c. The Rocky Mountain riding being mostly of the big and wide open variety a fallen tree doesn't always fit in very well. I also dig the EC riding style. It's very busy and makes good use of smaller areas. You don't have to get in the same sort of mileage to get a good ride in. I'm starting next month on a similar system I designed in Kingman. It's all hand built Mojave desert terrain that is slowish riding and what I'm calling semi-awkward tech flow. It's completely different than the stuff I've been doing since May at East Zion. The Kingman system is called the White Cliffs trail system and will have some really incredible slick rock stuff with plenty of very steep rock rollers, airy ledge traverses and fun balance testing moves through massive rocks and boulders. It's only going to be around 7.5 miles total but it's set up to sort of session short, bidirectional loops giving people options for very short rides or much longer ones with a bit of creative thinking and repeats. There is one short, technical directional trail in the system that has a wicked steep slab on it to sharp, fish hook corner at the bottom that I think will get the local riding community fired up there.

    Here's a few pics of some trail we did there a couple years ago. There's a lower loop and an upper loop mostly in lower terrain in this small canyon that will give access to the stuff up higher. Once up on the mesa it's probably 75% slick rock riding.

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    Man, that is beautiful desert trail!


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    Quote Originally Posted by hick View Post
    Man, that is beautiful desert trail!


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    Thanks hick! I did the design work for that stuff and everything that's about to come down the pipeline starting next month so I really appreciate that.

    Phase Two of the White Cliffs system should be done in December I think. After that we are doing a connection to the historic old town Kingman from the trails. If anyone on here happens to be going down that way make sure to stop by and get a ride in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona13 View Post
    Speed bumps.
    I caught this yesterday but wasn't able to reply. I like the 80's edit

    Headed out shortly with a pro to cut a leaner on my new trail and we have couple blow downs that I may get to also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    I caught this yesterday but wasn't able to reply. I like the 80's edit

    Headed out shortly with a pro to cut a leaner on my new trail and we have couple blow downs that I may get to also.
    Nice. Big leaners can be stressful, or captivating at least. I still enjoy dropping some trees every now and then. I can't run a saw full time unfortunately, it gives me some hateful tennis elbow.
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    Dirt jumps before dinner


    This morning dawn patrol which started nearly in the dark.


    Looks like a “landual” but was definitely not on purpose, rolled out of this one and round 2 much less dramatic. Tricky run in as there’s a corner w some rocks in the line right before the run-in.




    Fall summer switch flipped pretty hard yesterday from low 80s to mid 50s this morning!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    That looks fun. Where is that?
    It is fun! In Deep. Whistler Bike Park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    Yeah, Idk. I hate blowdowns. I think they're just annoying and don't contribute to the trail at all unless you spin it and make it a skinny. We have plenty of tech riding and I don't consider a blow down tech at all. Sure you can improve your bunny hops, but meh, not for me on a trail.
    QFT!!

    Autumn is here!!
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    Counting down the days until we are booted from the alpine!
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    First time in the Tetons. What a special place.

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    Go forth and ride, then bring back pics

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    Got some rain last week to pack down that dry, dusty loose stuff, and then some really nice fall days

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    Beautiful day for a newlyweds’ ride. Veil included.

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    Missed the berm and launched this dropper. This is looking up towards the trail from crash site. Also crash site pic with bike. Getting back up the hill with the bike and injuries was interesting. Dislocated middle finger and pulled it back in place to ride back to the lift. But pads and full face FTW



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    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


    Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues

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    Go forth and ride, then bring back pics

    Quote Originally Posted by whyturn View Post
    Missed the berm and launched this dropper. This is looking up towards the trail from crash site. Also crash site pic with bike. Getting back up the hill with the bike and injuries was interesting. Dislocated middle finger and pulled it back in place to ride back to the lift. But pads and full face FTW



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    Heal up! I also dislocated a finger in an over the bars crash on Friday. A finger I first dislocated in 1998! so swelling and bruising lighter than yours appears. I was also able to set it back in place at crash site whereas my initial late-90s dislocation involved a hospital visit. I am old and entire right side body sore from the crash. Finger not bending fully but not painful unless I try to make a fist. You may want to get an X-ray if not feeling better in ~ 5 days.
    Uno mas

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