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    Spatula Manual

    I was just looking for this here, and realized it was only posted at PMag. Soooo, here ya go. This was posted by Telemarker 7 over there:

    He found this over at The Skiers Journal. The manual you get with a pair of Spatulas.

    "When I received my Volant Spatulas, included with the skis was a 5 page guide by Shane McConkey explaining the benefits of the unique design. I found it so interesting that I thought it should be shared with the powder seeking souls who have not ordered a pair for themselves. Open your mind, read on, and pray for snow.

    Important! Read this before you ski on your new Spatulas. Keep this guide so that you can refer back to it after you have tried the Spatulas. It will help remind you of certain things you will need to know.

    Congratulations! You have just purchased the most progressive invention in the history of powder skiing since the original fat skis were invented. These skis will change the way you thought you were supposed to ski powder, minimize the effort you put into your skiing, and greatly improve your powder skiing experience. The following is meant to give you some idea of what the Spatulas are all about, why they are shaped the way they are and how to ski them. First of all, in order to clear your mind and attempt to make sense of all this, take most everything you have ever learned about skiing and stick it where the sun don't shine. Or at least in the garage next to your shaped skis. Why? Because: Sidecut is not good in powder. Camber is not good in powder. Carving is not necessary in powder. Simply put, if you want to maximize your abilities in soft snow you do not want to use the same tool as you would on any kind of hard, groomed, or compacted snow.

    How to ski your new Spatulas As you well know your new Spatulas have a very unique almost bizarre shape. It is important for you to understand the adjustments to your skiing technique you will need to make in order to ski them well. Don't worry! It's easy. Many people may get intimidated by the progressive shape of the Spatula and think that it takes an expert to know how to manage them. Not true. These skis will make powder skiing much easier for even the least experienced beginners. Actually the opposite concepts explained here will be much easier for a beginner to grasp than an expert conditioned to use their skis the way they always have. The expert will have to open their mind and be prepared for some very differnt concepts. Or simply, they must floss their brain!

    Ski on both feet! Put your weight a bit more on two feet throughout the turn instead of mostly on your downhill ski. This will help you stay afloat and facilitate sliding when you need to. You will also be able to load up your downhill ski as you normally would in most soft snow situations but knowing how and when to use both feet will greatly increase your abilities with the Spatulas. Suncrust and wind affected snow are prime examples of when to use both feet. In these conditions the Spatulas will blow your mind. Normally these conditions would require you to slow down and be very careful not to hook a tip. Not anymore. Ski on two feet and let er rip.

    Open it up! Your powder skiing is about to change dramatically. It will become much easier for you to maintain control at higher speeds. If you were the type of powder skier who used to make lots of slow, little bouncing up and down turns then you need to try and go faster. Open it up and go for it! You can still milk the powder slowly if you want but after you get the hang of hauling ass you won't want to putt around anymore.

    Slide instead of carve! Yes, believe it or not this is something that you should be trying to do in the powder. Sliding will be the most difficult of Spatula techniques to learn but you should be able to get the idea in time. Even if you never attempt to learn slides you will still be able to blow doors on everyone else without the Spatulas. Who knows, you might just naturally start doing them anyway. The more dense and compacted the snow is the easier it will be to perform slides. Sliding will greatly improve your maneuverability and control. Begin your powder turn and then instead of hitting your edges hard to carve a turn, stand up on two feet and let your skis slide or skid diagonally across the fall line. It will be harder to perform a slide directly down the fall line. Start off doing them diagonally.

    Trade skis with a friend for a run. Just to compare what you used to ski on with what you have now, I guarantee you will only try this once and then you will keep your Spatulas for yourself!

    Flotation and sliding. In order to better understand why the Spatulas are so efficient the two most important concepts to grasp are floation and sliding. In a ski world where everyone is constantly thinking power, pressure and carving it may seem like a crazy concept to accept almost the opposite theory. Then again, soft snow is pretty much the opposite of hard snow. Retraining your mind that sliding not carving is actually a good thing is a very hard concept for many people to swallow. A ski which is fat under foot will float much more than a ski which is narrow under foot. A ski with reverse sidecut will give the skier the ability to slide their turns where as side cut will force the skier to sink and carve. Reverse side cut combined with decamber immediately puts the tip and tail higher than the waist of the ski as well as pulls the edges of the ski away from the snow leaving the point of first contact with the snow at the waist of the ski. When you set you skis sideways to start a slide there is much less ski at the tip and tail to catch the snow and prevent the slide. It also helps to eliminate catching your downhill edges and stuffing it. The Spatulas are also twin tipped. This helps immensely for initiation of the slide. Expert skiers can use the twin tip to ski and land backwards if they wish. Skiing backwards in powder will be surprisingly easy compared to any other twin tipped powder ski. In virtually all situations you will still be able to carve your turns. the Spatulas simply give you the option to initiate a slide or to scrub speed by sliding similar to how you would do it on a groomer. Why is it so easy for snowboarders to scrub speed in the powder? Why is it so easy for them to make turns and go fast when skiers are laboring slowly down the hill? Why do snowboarders use less energy than skiers in the powder? It is a simple matter of flotation. Snowboarders are always on top of the snow. Skiers are mostly down in it. The Spatulas will give you all the benefits of snowboardings floatation and ease as well as satisfaction in the fact that you are actually on skis and still have all the luxuries and mobility options that skiing offers.

    Reverse Side Cut For normal skis side cut is used to make it easier to turn. You simply roll the ski on edge, add some pressure to the ski and it carves around. In recent years ski manufacturers have been adding significant amounts of side cut to their skis greatly facilitating the experience for everyone. This is true. ON HARD SNOW! In powder or soft snow side cut creates two distinct negative effects. 1. "The Pool Cover" - Your weight is directly on top of the narrowest part of the ski. this type of weight distribution immediately puts you in a sinking into the snow situation similar to what happens to the pool cover when you try to run across it. this causes your tips and tails to float but the center of your skis where all the weight is sinks, bogs down and then you must plow through the snow. You will be forced to carve every turn and expend a lot of energy bounding in and out of the snow. Sinking/carving=bad, floating/sliding=good. 2. "The Unstable Hooker" - Skis become very unstable and much more difficult to control. In sun crust or wind affect you may have noticed the occasional Unstable Hooker. This is when you start a turn and your downhill ski hooks fast and hard up and across your uphill ski. You cross your tips, step on your downhill ski with your uphill and then stuff your face into the mountain. Or at high speeds you may have noticed your skis trying to swim around a bit making it hard to control as you try to keep your tips up and out of the snow. The solution to this in the past has always been to maintain a wider stance in powder and to slow it down a bit. Fortunately now you can use your Spatula to dish out a good spanking to that Unstable Hooker and Pool Cover. The reverse side cut of the Spatulas immediately sets you afloat on top of the snow allowing you to initiate turns and negotioate everything you encounter much more easiliy without having to labor through it. Reverse side cut also eliminates the instabilities commonly encountered with shaped skis in the soft snow. You will notice little or nor Unstable Hookers and you will be able to enjoy a much more relaxed stance in variable snow and at high speeds.

    You will also notice that the Spatulas feel much lighter while on your feet than other skis of similar surface area. Try swinging them from sided to side while on the lift. This effect is created by the reverse side cut. It gives them a very light swing weight. Normal skis with side cut have a weight distribtuion which puts the bulk of the skis at the tips and tails. The Spatulas are the opposite. The bulk is at the waist. The Spatulas are a lot of ski and there is a lot down there stuck to your feet. However, they feel much lighter and more maneuverable than you can imagine.
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    Decamber

    On normal skis camber is used to add power and extra pressure to the tip and tail of the ski. This gives the ski stability, strength, and helps it inititate a turn. It also adds power through the arc of the turn. This is true, ON HARD SNOW! In soft snow it has these negative effects: 1. “The Sunken Plow” - Tips and tails are constantly trying to dive down into the snow. No matter how much you load up the skis with pressure or how soft the skis are the tips still always want to dive lower than the waist of the skis. This causes excessive unweighting or bouncing and leaning back onto your tails. It puts you in an unbalanced position. The point is to get up and out of the snow not down in it. 2. “Franz” - Skis will only ever turn by carving. Skis will not in any way be made to slide. Tips and tails during unweighting are always lower than the center of the skis prohibiting any attempt at a slide. Throwing the skis sideways in anyway will end in a caught outside edge followed by a quick whiplash onto your side. The Spatula’s decamber will prevent most Sunken Plow situations depending on the skiers weight. The lighter you are, the more you will benefit from the decamber. You will notice that you will not need to lean back on your skis in the powder nearly as much as you would on normal skis. This will allow you to stand upright and attack the mountain much more efficiently. Having the option to eliminate the Franz carve from your powder skiing will open up a whole new world for you. Try sliding a bit sideways as you finish your turn. Remember to stand on both feet. Try doing a long slide instead of doing a turn at all. Skiers constantly link one turn to the next in powder because in the past we lacked the ability and technology to slide. It also has traditionally been considered proper style to make identical, consecutive linked turns down a powder slope. Now you have the option to carve, slide, crab sideways, hockey stop, and basically use the slope in many creative ways instead of such a limited traditional style.

    How to ski your Spatulas on hard snow.

    These skis are not versatile. I will make no attempts to fool you, as all ski manufacturers typically do, into thinking that you can use these skis in all kinds of snow conditions. They are made specifically for the many types of soft snow. Powder, suncrust, wind affect, deep, shallow, light and heavy. They are not designed to be primarily skied on ice or most types of hard snow. Of course you will frequently find yourself skiing on some sort of hard snow even on a powder day. It may be on the groomer going back to the lift or you may hit a hard patch or a mogul along the way. Not to worry. They can be easily managed in any situation. You just have to know how to do it. The first quiestion that absolutely everyone always asks me is : “Yeah, but how well do they work on the groomer?” The most accurate analogy I have come up with is that they work about as well on the groomer as a pair of GS skis work in the powder. Manageable but not great. However, I am confident that the satisfaction and pleasure which you will receive from the powder intended qualities of these skis will soon make the issue of Spatula performance on hard snow nonexistent. When the situation demands that you ski your Spatulas on the groomer or hard snow it is very important that you remember two things: 1. Stand on both feet. 2. Initiate turns by sliding. Think of it this way. When initiating a turn using skis with side cut you simply roll the ski on edge and the tip of the ski catches the snow and depending on how much pressure you give it the ski either carves around fast or slowly. No matter what, the ski will turn. This is not so with the Spatula. They have the opposite shape. They were not designed to carve on hard snow. They were designed to slide and carve in soft snow. You will need to train your mind to think slide not carve especially when on the groomer. A ski with reverse sidecut if forced to carve on hard snow will perform exactly the opposite task as a ski with side cut. Try it, you’ll see. Start the turn like you normally would. Weight forward shifting to the downhill ski, add pressure to the tip of the downhill ski, follow through with more pressure on the downhill ski through the turn and your downhill ski tracks off in the wrong direction and you fall onto your uphill ski! It won’t work! You must initiate your turns on both feet and by sliding them around! After you have begun your turn by sliding you will notice that you can actually finish the turn by carving once you are on your tails if you want. The tails of the Spatulas will catch and you can carve the end of the turn. It all sounds weird I know, but just remember this and try it a couple times on the groomed and you will probably get the hang of it in one run. Remember! Your’re a slider, not a carver!

    How the Spatula was born.

    Back in 1996 the ski industry was just beginning to go through two revolutionary discoveries. The invention of shaped skis and the popularization of fat skis for soft snow. As we all know now fat skis have totally changed the way we ski powder and shaped skis have totally changed skiing on harder snow. As manufactuters began to experiment with massive side cuts for carving the groomer and the race course it was only natural for people to want to test out these new shaped skis. At the same time skiers were also just beginning to to realize the benefits of fat skis in powder. Back then I had also recently made the switch from skiing on traditional skis to the very fat (at the time) Volant Chubb. I was spending my time marveling over the benefits of fat skis in most snow conditions. Then I decided to try out the new shaped skis in the soft snow. Since the quatlities of fat skis were so fresh on my mind all the time I was immediately able to recognize how horrible side cut is for soft snow. If I had been skiing on traditional skis all year like most everyone else this revelation may not even have happened.

    During the summer of 96 at a bar in Las Lenas Argentina while hanging out with some friends I quickly sketched a picture of some fat skis with reverse sidecut onto a beer napkin. We all spoke about it and of course some even laughed at the idea. I took the napkin home and kept it in my “Cool and funny stuff “ file in my cabinet for about 2 years never really esxpecting that any ski company would bite on the idea. In the mean time as ski companies started making their shaped fat skis with all this side cut I remained skiing on fat skis with minimal side cut trying to milk as much flotation and control as possible.

    Then in 1998 the Volant design engineers came out to Squaw Valley. The plan was to test out some new shaped fat skis that they wanted to make with a bunch of my friends and knowledgeable skiers. These new skis were basically a Volant Chubb with more side cut. We tested them against many skis including our old, used for a year Chubbs. Yes, they were more versatile and could be used to carve easier turns on the groomed but in the powder they still were more work than skis with minimal side cut. Then Scott Gaffney, who was one of the testers, decided to open his mouth and suggest a concept which is probably the most important yet now seeming so obvious discoveries in powder ski technology. He said, “I think my old, dead, decambered Chubbs float better in the snow than those ones with new ski life and camber.” And then the light bulb flashed on. I dug up my old beer napkin and began pondering the concept. I thought about hard snow and soft snow and began copmparing the similarities of powder to water. I realized that the effects of riding on powder snow would be very similar to riding on water. Water skis have reverse side cut. So do surf boards. and they both have decamber or rocker.

    Over the course of the next two years I would talk to people about how cool it would be to have skis with decamber and reverse side cut specifically for powder. Almost everyone I mentioned the idea to would either laugh or politely smile. All except for Scott and JT Holmes and a few others. I never really pushed the idea to Volant very hard because I assumed that no one would listen. Nobody buys powder only skis. The industry already lost on that bet. The skis that sell are the all mountain carver that are so versatile right? Right. No one wants to buy more than one pair of skis. So why even attempt to make something that a ski shop can’t even sell? So nothing happened for 2 years. Finally after stewing over it for too long I began talking to the design engineers at Volant about just going for it and jury rigging a pair or two together in the shop in their spare time. If it wasn’t for the hard work and extra after hours put in by Ryan Carroll and Pete Turner in the Volant factory the first and only four pairs would never have been made in the summer of 2001.

    The first prototype arrived at my doorstep in August. Soon afterwards I packed up my beautiful, shimmering, new steel Spatulas and flew down to New Zealand to work on a film project. As I am a very spoiled preofessional skier we were heli skiing the whole time and I got to test them out. They immediately blew my mind. Everything was so easy. No more leaning back to prevent tip diving. No more boot sink. I couldn’t believe it. I ran straight to the phone and called Volant over seas and spewed my guts raving for 45 minutes about how great they are.
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    Unfortunately, when I got home I got the news that Volant was going to be sold to another company and that everyone was getting canned. No one was going to be able to put any time into making more Spatulas. There were four pairs in existence on the planet with no foreseeable solution. I held on to three of them and Ryan Carroll held on to one single ski fo the remaining pair. The other single ski went on tour with the new Volant to help promote the Spatula concept if and when we ever got it together enough to start making them again.

    Luckily as time would tell Volant got back up on its feet and contracted the Atomic factory in Austria to make all its skis. Perfect! Atomic makes great skis and their standards are nothing short of excellent. They also happen to be the company who first made super fat powder skis back in the 80’s. The Atomic Powder Plus or “Fat Boy” is today still considered one of the best powder skis ever made by many western skiers. Peter Turner and I then pushed for some budget money to be spent on creating around 300 pairs of Spatulas to be made in the Atomic factory.

    The powers that be thought it over. Powder specific skis? They won’t sell very fast. If we are lucky we will break even with these skis. But they are revolutionary. They will change the way people think about skiing powder, the most enjoyable type of skiing. They will open up a whole new world for people. It’s a big risk, but what great idea isn’t? Everyone said yes and the project was a go. Now as I sit here and write this it’s October 2002 and Volant is making the first batch of the greatest powder skis ever. I can’t wait for it to start snowing and for a small part of 300 people’s lives to change! Have fun on your new Spatulas! And remember, if someone makes fun of them, there are no friends on a powder day! You don’t have to wait for their slow ass. Good luck!

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    thanks arty.

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    Re: Spatula Manual

    Originally posted by Arty50
    In powder or soft snow side cut creates two distinct negative effects.

    1. "The Pool Cover" - blah, blah, blah...

    2. "The Unstable Hooker" - Skis become very unstable and much more difficult to control. In sun crust or wind affect you may have noticed the occasional Unstable Hooker.... ...stuff your face into the mountain... Fortunately now you can use your Spatula to dish out a good spanking to that Unstable Hooker and Pool Cover... You will notice little or nor Unstable Hookers and you will be able to enjoy a much more relaxed stance in variable snow and at high speeds.
    I believe the last sentence is a nod at the LS9000.
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    The history of part was cool, damn I want some spatulas now
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    Worthwhile bump.

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    i am staring at mine right now - still here in the office unmounted. gots to get some binders and call GC @ Squaw and see if they sill do the Spats mounting....which reminds me: Arty, did you have to bring your own brakes in for the mount? or did GC stock the wider brakes and throw those in as part of their mount?

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    They left the brakes off and I put them on later. I already had a set of the offset/superwides on my Gotamas and just needed another set to mix and match. So I told them not to worry about the brakes; I took care of that at home. They should have some offset brakes to mix and match, but I'm sure they'll charge you for those. The levers just pop in and out. They'll make one pair with the all purple levers and one pair with all grey. They keep the grey pair and sell you the purple ones for your Spatulas.
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    how did this get buried for 3 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Core Shot View Post
    how did this get buried for 3 years?
    I don't know, but it sure is convenient that you bumped it just a few days before mine arrive.

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    brilliant bump, I've been trying to track this one down.
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    There's lots of new models/imitations out there, but is there any ski that can rival the spatula in uncompromised powder performance? Seems like they all want to get more hardpack performance out of their skis.
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    The patent application is interesting as well. See here.

    Even more fascinating, at least to me, is the prior art cited against the Spatula. Turns out Nishizawa filed a patent application for a reverse camber and sidecut ski in 1982, and it issued in 1984. Too big to upload here, but check out figures 3 (reverse sidecut) and 5 (reverse camber) here.
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    Can't wait to get some more days on mine after reading that.

    Thanks Arty
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    Quote Originally Posted by runethechamp View Post
    There's lots of new models/imitations out there, but is there any ski that can rival the spatula in uncompromised powder performance? Seems like they all want to get more hardpack performance out of their skis.
    of all the clones i have skied on, i would say most ski soft better and hardpack worse than a spat.

    i'd love a 190-195cm true spat as an everyday inbounds ski actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
    The patent application is interesting as well. See here.

    Even more fascinating, at least to me, is the prior art cited against the Spatula. Turns out Nishizawa filed a patent application for a reverse camber and sidecut ski in 1982, and it issued in 1984. Too big to upload here, but check out figures 3 (reverse sidecut) and 5 (reverse camber) here.
    Scorpions, built in the early 70's had them both beat. But they were super short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshalolson View Post
    of all the clones i have skied on, i would say most ski soft better and hardpack worse than a spat.
    Really? I haven't skied any clones at all but I would've bet it would be the other way around. I mean, how much worse on hardpack than spats can anything be?

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    In case the Skiers Journal link doesn't work, which it didn't for me, you can try this one.
    http://www.fuzeqna.com/evogear/consu...il.asp?kbid=61

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshalolson View Post
    of all the clones i have skied on, i would say most ski soft better and hardpack worse than a spat.
    Thats really surprising coming from you, a DP rep, marsh. Doesn't the minimal amount of "regular" sidecut underfoot for the 138's make them more intuitive to ski hardpack with? The spat carves away from you in a turn on groom, the loti do not. I'm not trying to say you're wrong, you obviously know a WHOLE LOT more than I do about anything skiing related, Id just like you to extrapolate more so I can understand where youre coming from.

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    with a spat you KNOW that the ski has no chance to carve, unless you get rather careless. it is very easy to side slide your turns.

    the 138's flat edge ain't going to carve for shit. i mean a 1mm sidecut on a 140cm ski? that is not sidecut to carve. they can actually hook up a little when you don;t want it too, unless you detune your edges a bit.

    it does make the ski skin alot better especially on super hard surfaces.


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    This manual is what led me to buy my spats
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    Quote Originally Posted by marshalolson View Post
    with a spat you KNOW that the ski has no chance to carve, unless you get rather careless. it is very easy to side slide your turns.

    the 138's flat edge ain't going to carve for shit. i mean a 1mm sidecut on a 140cm ski? that is not sidecut to carve. they can actually hook up a little when you don;t want it too, unless you detune your edges a bit.

    it does make the ski skin alot better especially on super hard surfaces.


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    I just ordered a set of the 138's and was wondering what you would recommend as far as base/edge bevel and amount of detune in from the tip and tail? I have not been able to find much tuning tips for fun shapes.
    Thanks in advance!

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    Carving the tails of the spats is cool. And sideslipping at 30 mph down an icy groomer
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