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  1. #26
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    my bad, I was in the Rocker yesterday. and am looking for a rocker not a 4fun.

    eeesh. it's no wonder I currently own a boat I hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_gyptian View Post
    I'm about to sell a Dagger Juice 6.9 because of how specific a play boat it is in relation to my meager skillz.

    I'm looking for a pyranha H3, or Jackson 4Fun. I was in a Jackson 4Fun yesterday and it didn't feel too big. I'm 5'9" 170.

    regardless, the different boat made all the difference in the world.

    Where you been paddling at?

    We should get out on the river soon, could introduce you to a couple river rats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayaktheworld View Post
    Honestly, you really don't lose any river running ability by going to a true play boat and you gain much more. If you are going to a river runner though, take the jackson. it is the only one of those that is actually good. The others all down right suck.

    But hey, feel free to believe the hype and go with the typical "beginners need different boats" idea.

    I love no bullshit comments like this. Wish there was more of this confidence in the world.

  4. #29
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    Don't buy a Rocker unless you plan on using it for creek boating. Sounds like a river runner boat would be best suited for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlurredElevens View Post
    Where you been paddling at?

    We should get out on the river soon, could introduce you to a couple river rats.
    I'm going to be doing that Kayak club out of alpinequest in Edwards.

    Why not the Rocker? I like the creeking idea much more than play boating.
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  6. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_gyptian View Post
    I'm about to sell a Dagger Juice 6.9 because of how specific a play boat it is in relation to my meager skillz.
    Quote Originally Posted by mr_gyptian View Post
    Why not the Rocker? I like the creeking idea much more than play boating.
    Creeking with "meager skills" usually results in lots of playboating.
    Last edited by ridinshockgun; 06-05-2007 at 09:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_gyptian View Post
    I'm going to be doing that Kayak club out of alpinequest in Edwards.

    Why not the Rocker? I like the creeking idea much more than play boating.
    Baby steps my son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridinshockgun View Post
    Creeking with "meager skills" usually results in lots of playboating.
    I'm a jedi river swimmer.

    I'm talking over the long run. it seems I could use the creeking type boat for quite some time. rather than getting sucked into getting a quiver of boats. I've displayed little or no self control with gear purchasing over my skiing career and am trying to avoid that with kayaking.

    I think I'm going to give an H3 a whirl this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_gyptian View Post
    I'm going to be doing that Kayak club out of alpinequest in Edwards.
    You'll have fun in that club. I know Nate, the manager of Alpinequest and he instructs as well. Great guy. He just got a brand new Rocker, you should ask him to try it out.

    Try out the Wave Sport Diesel as well. Similiar to the H series.
    Old's Cool.

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    When you're boating your beginner III's with everyone else, you'll be the lame dude sitting in the eddy with his creeker while everyone else is surfing a wave. Schweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonder_River View Post
    When you're boating your beginner III's with everyone else, you'll be the lame dude sitting in the eddy with his creeker while everyone else is surfing a wave. Schweet!
    This is so true. The quiver is unavoidable as you'll eventually need at least two boats. You'll get better, more quickly in a RR/PB too. Keep the Juice and buy a creeker. Paddle the Juice on Class III and if you want to venture out onto some IV's, take the big guy until you're comfortable in the Juice.
    Old's Cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmsummit View Post
    You'll have fun in that club. I know Nate, the manager of Alpinequest and he instructs as well. Great guy. He just got a brand new Rocker, you should ask him to try it out.

    Try out the Wave Sport Diesel as well. Similiar to the H series.
    Yeah, he was my instructor last weekend. good people. I used the Rocker on the last three rapids and had no problem. the Juice worked me.

    I wish I could lease my Juice to someone until I'm ready for a play boat.
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    Until you're ready for a playboat or until you're ready to turn over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridinshockgun View Post
    Until you're ready for a playboat or until you're ready to turn over?
    I have a tough time pulling out of the 4G negative dive in combat situations.

    regardless, the other people in my class were just lollygagging through the rapids on their H3's. If I hadn't swapped for that Rocker i might have thrown my juice into the Statebridge lodge ashes.
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    The Juice is one of the worst boats ever manufactured. It might be outranked only by the GT and the booster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayaktheworld View Post
    The Juice is one of the worst boats ever manufactured. It might be outranked only by the GT and the booster.
    as I said earlier, I was pretty much ready to toss the thing in the state bridge lodge's fiery coals.

    but why do you have a problem with the Juice? everyone I've boated with has had good to very good things to say about it.
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    I got a raise! I think I'm just gonna say WTF and blow my load on a brand new 4Fun!

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    Nice. You probably won't regret it. I am pretty sure Jackson is going to completely PWN the playboat world in the near future. Creekboats...not so much.

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    My penchant for being a tightwad won out. I'm buying this CR 250!!:
    http://www.mountainbuzz.com/swap/sho...ct=7242&cat=18

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    nice. I looked into getting the LL CR125, before finding a used Fun.
    Old's Cool.

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    I've got an EZG 60 if you want it and am in Golden until the end of the month. I am guessing that I will probably get back into boating again, but I have only had this boat out 3-4 times since I bought it at the begining of last year. I am moving to Aspen so I could use the dough...and the storage space. $550 and its yours....just the boat though.

    I've got a helmet you could have too, but I would suggest going to a shop, trying on a bunch, and getting one that fits you good.

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