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  1. #7126
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    Yeah. Yield curve flat. Theyíre still growing just not making the cash. Much of that drop is after the fed bumped short rates again in sept. Before that they were largely trading in a range as the rate hike was somewhat expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Yeah. Yield curve flat. Theyíre still growing just not making the cash. Much of that drop is after the fed bumped short rates again in sept. Before that they were largely trading in a range as the rate hike was somewhat expected.
    I think the economy just done run out of gas.
    Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well.

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    There is support around 2700 on the daily chart where the breakout was in January but gap down to that support is powerful and it better hold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu Gotz View Post
    I think the economy just done run out of gas.
    Well find out over the next couple weeks, margins and growth top of mind. Margins donít scare me (inflation and rates still low) but changes to growth- tariff driven or whatever- will be important. These big US multinationals and exporters not off to a great start!
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    Short rates not reacting much to the stock decline. Stiff competition for stocks.

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    Is the stock market going to tank?

    The wealth affect from stocks in USA is magnitudes larger than China. Chinese I know have most of their wealth in Real Estate. GF family is middle class and they have like 12 properties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Chinese I know have most of their wealth in Real Estate. GF family is middle class and they have like 12 properties.
    Are they all in China and setting empty? How do they get around laws that don't allow investing out of country?

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    Some sit empty for sure. GF has one sheís never seen. And declining RE will conversely have a higher impact there.

    Rents in most of China are nothing. You can make a lot more in 5% cdís than rent return.

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    Great morning it was to buy for some swings.... hope yall aren't losing to much today

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    For example ..... nbev and ttnp

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    How much did you buy?
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    Pfft, that guy is a poser. Lets see the confirmations.
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    I think you'd have an easier time understanding people if you remembered that 80% of them are fucking morons.
    That is why I like dogs, more than most people.

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    Is the stock market going to tank?

    Paul Volker says weíre all doomed.

    So much going wrong in the world right now, he may be right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Paul Volker says we’re all doomed.

    So much going wrong in the world right now, he may be right.


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    Doomed as in eating Top Ramen doomed for a few months? Or doomed as in survival shelters and eating rehydrated food for a couple of years doomed?
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

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    Is the stock market going to tank?

    Markets recovering sharply

    Iím not a cmt, but that strengthens 2700 even more right?

    Edit: cmt kinda looks like cunt, but thatís not what I meant
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    It makes 2700 a legit support level but it also makes it a more important point. Iíve found in that in recent years the best lows are made when it closes right on the lows which traditionally in years past would have been bad.

    We really need to get above the previous high in January to call a low. 2825 or so.

    Bounces off support can give a sense of relief and weak hands feel better which is a bad thing because you want panic.

    Another thing is, like January, the 200 day is a powerful pivot and regardless of chart it acts like a magnet. The longer it stays below the less likely it is to hold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    Doomed as in eating Top Ramen doomed for a few months? Or doomed as in survival shelters and eating rehydrated food for a couple of years doomed?
    Why couldnt it happen in our lives? One prolonged recession?


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    Is the stock market going to tank?

    Thatís why the Fed is desperate to raise. They still have trend growth at 1.6%. Not to mention the selfish boomers that need income more than growth.
    Last edited by 4matic; 10-23-2018 at 09:12 PM.

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    Damn capitalists amirite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    That’s why the Fed is desperate to raise. They still have trend growth at 1.6%. Not to mention the selfish boomers that need income more than growth.
    How about those philanthropic banks? Can't they do something more magnanimous?
    Or are the old people scuffing your floor by dragging their feet like that?

    Otherwise - what's gonna happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Thatís why the Fed is desperate to raise. They still have trend growth at 1.6%. Not to mention the selfish boomers that need income more than growth.
    Donít disagree at heart but they went almost 10 years without giving shits about the boomers vs growth.

    At some point there was a shift from ďrescueĒ to ďgrowthĒ. If at any point they fucked up rate policy it erases any confidence in the fed and market, though not the economy (which they had basically rescued).

    If that makes any sense. I was a complete Fed bullshit-ist. No confidence. But I canít complain about anything. Especially Powell.

    Edit: Iím talking fundamentals and real life. Algorithms and trading nonsense can lick my taint until the salmon dude tells us how much heís betting on these dogshit stocks.
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    salmon dudes a bullshitter, do your homework

    we exchanged 3-4 years of 2% for 1-2 years of faster growth. plenty of reasons to be concerned, or not be concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Well find out over the next couple weeks, margins and growth top of mind. Margins donít scare me (inflation and rates still low) but changes to growth- tariff driven or whatever- will be important. These big US multinationals and exporters not off to a great start!
    Top line misses this morning.

    * Hilton
    * UPS
    * Texas Instruments
    * General Dynamics
    * Illinois Tool Works
    * Restaurant Brands
    Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    How about those philanthropic banks? Can't they do something more magnanimous?
    Or are the old people scuffing your floor by dragging their feet like that?

    Otherwise - what's gonna happen?
    Brick and mortar banks could start offering a market rate for checking and savings instead of having to find a brokerage.

    My guess is that deflation forces kick in again and rates go back down. That's why I'm looking to lock some income returns in the next few months. ATT yields 6.5% now.

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    Ya and when I showed the pics of me in a few ski magazines they said ... that's not you.... jajaja... nice swings I sold this morning.... it's all about momo n the pre market n the first hour of the open market... hope yall aren't red today... I'll leave you poodles to your yapping

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