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  1. #18476
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    Quote Originally Posted by byates1 View Post
    He shouldn't be in if he was out. If he was out than he wasn't in. If he was in than out than in well.
    Ah. Well, then.

  2. #18477
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    Quote Originally Posted by ötzi View Post
    Ah. Well, then.
    Well than what?

  3. #18478
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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Well than what?
    You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-yous. And, uh, a lotta strands to keep in my head, man.

  4. #18479
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    Not tanking today.

  5. #18480
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    shocking. never could have predicted that.
    "fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
    "She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
    "everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy

  6. #18481
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    Quote Originally Posted by Name Redacted View Post
    Not tanking today.
    Glad I finally got schwab webpage to work about an hour before closing yesterday, had some cash transferring in and did some buying...now wish I would have bought more, ha.

  7. #18482
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    Just noticed todays 52 week t-bill auction is at 4.255%, that dropped below 5% fast.

  8. #18483
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyCarter View Post
    You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-yous. And, uh, a lotta strands to keep in my head, man.
    The what have yous always gets me
    Decisions Decisions

  9. #18484
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    Hey look at that, where did the doom and gloom people go?
    "fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
    "She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
    "everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy

  10. #18485
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Hey look at that, where did the doom and gloom people go?
    Goddammit - NakedShorts owes me a refund.

  11. #18486
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  12. #18487
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    You shouldn’t be in the mkt thinking like that. It’s about $$$ not your feelings.
    And yet we have overpriced pieces of shit like Tesla. Feelings drive market valuations.

  13. #18488
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    Crazy that vix got so high but we are back to pretty much where we were on Friday. It is like Monday never happened.

    I didn't move anything- I have no idea what is going on so I just buy twice per month and let it ride.

  14. #18489
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    Quote Originally Posted by schuss View Post
    And yet we have overpriced pieces of shit like Tesla. Feelings drive market valuations.
    Something is worth, what another is willing to pay.

  15. #18490
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevo View Post
    Crazy that vix got so high but we are back to pretty much where we were on Friday. It is like Monday never happened.

    I didn't move anything- I have no idea what is going on so I just buy twice per month and let it ride.
    Yup. Slow and steady wins the race.

  16. #18491
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Hey look at that, where did the doom and gloom people go?
    It’s all Biden/Harris’ fault

  17. #18492
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    On Monday the idiots were calling it “the Kamala Crash” - it didn’t catch on

  18. #18493
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    and tomorrow the Dow will drop 800pts

  19. #18494
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    Are we in a dead cat bounce??

  20. #18495
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    Nope. Shit isn’t really all that bad.
    Decisions Decisions

  21. #18496
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    I’m with Kevo, I put in $200/month, gives me great entertainment deciding where to put it. I also DRIP in $623.75/month. I’ve got a fair amount invested in high yield stuff. Pipeline stocks have been very good to me. People complain about MLP’s but it’s not that bad tax filing wise. The benefits outweigh the hassles. I’m heavy in EPD, ET, MPLX, and OKE. They’ve all worked out well for me yield wise and equity growth.

    I agree with the time in the market beats timing the market. I think part of it is finding the bargains. When I started investing it was the pandemic, everything was a bargain. I thought it was easy, you can make money on everything. I bought a few things that were foolish, I still hold them and hope to be proven wrong. But I found it wasn’t quite that easy.

    As I’ve watched this stuff I’ve learned that there is always something on sale. It just depends on when you buy it. There always seems to be some trend in the market that beats down certain sectors. It’s all cyclical, grabbing those sectors when they’re beaten down and timing when they’ll be back is how to make money.

    I’m still buying Reits, it isn’t the bottom anymore but the yield is still cheap. I’ve acquired a fair amount of shares of various companies. I’m still up more on the tech I bought in the fall of 2022 but I think these will catch up eventually. I’ve been buying O, NNN, WPC, PINE, ARE, VICI, KRG, and EPRT. It’s not a great bet considering the erosion of commercial real estate values but I think that trend will change eventually and I’m willing to receive shares in exchange for waiting.

    Whatever you do, keep putting in the money even if it’s just in an index fund. My light at the end of the tunnel is dim, make sure yours is bright and get the fuck out of working as quick as you can.

  22. #18497
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Something is worth, what another is willing to pay.
    Yep, that's why vibes and emotions matter, because they drive a lot of valuations in both directions.

  23. #18498
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    Back to normal back to carving out $. HY OAS back under 320 or 10y TSY over 4.2 it’s back to duration trade

    Rinse repeat.
    Decisions Decisions

  24. #18499
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    Del duplicate post
    Last edited by LeeLau; 08-14-2024 at 12:48 PM.

  25. #18500
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    Anyone here know B Riley? Complex little business. Took a hammering.

    Lots of expenses - almost 180Mn in interest to pay per year. Owns a mish-mash of business from IB, wealth management, quasi-VC and even Tannus hard goods

    Financial companies that don't have investor confidence or regulator confidence tend not to do to well. Thinking of starting a short on a dead cat.

    Liquid enough options to hedge with calls

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