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  1. #10576
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevo View Post
    Here's a history of unemployment in the US-


    ...and yet the stock market goes up.
    Flattenin' that curve!

    Oh, wait.

  2. #10577
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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    $250,000 right now or $704 a month for the rest of your life?
    Take the $250,000 now and invest alongside Lee Lau. You motherfuckers will own the world one day.
    "timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang

  3. #10578
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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    What do us GenXers get if the Millenials get Sprinters and White Claw?
    Same thing we've always gotten - nuthin'.


  4. #10579
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    thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncskier View Post
    I'd lean toward the lump sum for two reasons. I assuming you have other saving and SS and this amount is not indexed to inflation.
    1) If you are disciplined and invest even somewhat conservatively in something like TIPS. Even with a 4 % withdrawal per year, you could get $10k a year out and still possibly retain the $250k to leave to a charity or a friend assuming you never use it for anything else like a roof or car.
    2) I don't know who manages this assumed pension, but I have seen them go broke and benefits cut even with the backing of the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation.

    good points. thanks.

  6. #10581
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    "Yellen said she expects a 30 percent contraction of GDP this year, but has seen models as high as 50 percent, according to a Democratic aide unauthorized to discuss the call and granted anonymity."

    https://hosted.ap.org/kernradio/arti...ext-virus-bill


    US GDP contraction during the Great Recession was 4.3%. There's no way we're close to the bottom.

  7. #10582
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    Sold WMT, BRK/B, INTC, VZ, JPM. Will buy all again if there is a move down.

  8. #10583
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    Flattenin' that curve!

    Oh, wait.
    Just wait until Thursday.
    Forum Cross Pollinator

  9. #10584
    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    So you quote your own quote that happens to fit today's narrative? Should we go and dig up every time you are wrong? That's hindsite shit peddling or attention seeking.
    The point was to reinforce 'bounces are to be sold' not so much to autofellate. At the time I wrote that, there was more than one denial of a pending bounce. But, after an undercut, that's exactly what happened.

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    If you sold on a 20% bounce you’d still be down 5% on today’s close with a 10% drawdown at the peak. What was the risk?

  11. #10586
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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    What do us GenXers get if the Millenials get Sprinters and White Claw?
    a young hot girlfriend with sprinter and she drinks lots of white claw
    planning on having the "talk" this week, she hasn't worked in a month or so why go back we should buy a sprinter and live off the land

  12. #10587
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    Where you won’t be welcome anywhere...
    Forum Cross Pollinator

  13. #10588
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    fyi, 2700 s+p has been cited as about it for the rally from fund investors I trust; got rejected pretty good today.
    Eat em up Houston Cougars !

  14. #10589
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Take the $250,000 now and invest alongside Lee Lau. You motherfuckers will own the world one day.
    Imma going to eat shit on something soon. It's been a long time since I've had this much desk time to concentrate on DD. Who knew it'd take a pandemic to do that

  15. #10590
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    a young hot girlfriend with sprinter and she drinks lots of white claw
    planning on having the "talk" this week, she hasn't worked in a month or so why go back we should buy a sprinter and live off the land
    What does your wife say about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    a young hot girlfriend with sprinter and she drinks lots of white claw
    planning on having the "talk" this week, she hasn't worked in a month or so why go back we should buy a sprinter and live off the land
    So you're going to forage from a remote parking spot? Lovely.

    Let's do some livin'
    After, we die

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    Flattenin' that curve!

    Oh, wait.
    I thought we were punching the hump

    Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr r
    “Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    Serious question. What is the max amount per $100k invested that someone could pull out monthly without reducing the principal in the most aggressive scenario currently available? If that initial investment amount right now was maxed at $400k how much could it turn monthly and and how quickly could it happen?
    Too many unknown variables to be able to determine a precise number

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    what's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?

  19. #10594
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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    $250,000 right now or $704 a month for the rest of your life?
    Oh, dude, at a time like this, do you even have to ask. Worry free income.

    Let's do some livin'
    After, we die

  20. #10595
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    I know. I'll try to expand on the thought in the morning, drinking began right after I posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevo View Post
    Here's a history of unemployment in the US-


    ...and yet the stock market goes up.

    Wait until the next report. And the one after that.

    Let's do some livin'
    After, we die

  22. #10597
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    Aack, went to add to that and *poof* aargh I'm out 🤪

  23. #10598
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Wait until the next report. And the one after that.
    Read post 10583, please
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    I added one more. Could have added three more. Maybe four.

    Let's do some livin'
    After, we die

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    After reading more about mREITs I bought a bit more TWO and AGNC both of which are agency backed MBSs. But after realizing the entire sector is correlated so that diversification in that game is a fools errand I dumped those flat and went for IVR which is what I thought would be the most upside (70% of portfolio is Agency MBS - 30% is non Agency MBS per their last 10Q) but also has some pretty awe-inspiring leverage 6 - 7% debt/equity ratio! - I guess those dividends don't come without risk).

    Entire sector moving in lockstep with markets so I'm now slightly green on IVR. Patiently awaiting the Fed money tree for mReits
    Following Mazderatis' instincts I dumped half of the IVR I dumpster dived when I followed it all the way averaging down to asspound land keeping half for that magic 8ball Fed relief (the successors to TARP are meeting today so who knows). The proceeds recover what I put in so the remainder are notionally free. 3 days of upmarket cant be taken for granted.

    Shorted some more CCL on the theory that the recent PP at 8 and the converts are 10 are likely also selling. Options still as pricey as ever

    Adding T.to and TAP to long term buy list if they'd just lose another 30+%

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