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  1. #10101
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    Sounds like another round of tax cuts for the rich is in order.
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

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    I was just thinking how this is such an historic day in American capitalism. A UE report that is so insanely high they had to expand the chart, over 3 million reporting, but the equity markets go up over 6%, topping off a three day 20% rally, the best three day period since 1933, all based on hopes that the largest federal stimulus package ever passed by the Senate, over 2 trillion dollars and containing very socialist support of corporations and individuals, with new regulations . Totally bizarre.

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    So, Mike Pence just stood at a lecturn and said, yeah, 3 million unemployed, that's bad, but [honest to God] here's the good news: WalMart is hiring 150,000 people, and Amazon is hiring a ton of warehouse staff. He really said that.

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    who the hell underworte Ackman's CDS bet at the beginning of march when the writing was already on the wall for $26 mill in premium? Some real life axe capital shit

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/days-a...gainst-market/

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    Quote Originally Posted by klauss View Post
    who the hell underworte Ackman's CDS bet at the beginning of march when the writing was already on the wall for $26 mill in premium? Some real life axe capital shit

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/days-a...gainst-market/
    Hopefully it was Deutsche Bank.... The same fucks that loan Trump $.. But I am sure if the bank goes bust that will make it even easier for Trump to avoid paying off his business loans... definitely even more business bankruptcies in his future.. Such a genius!.
    what's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?

  6. #10106
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    Quote Originally Posted by up an down View Post
    I took profits on all stocks and bonds a short time ago, Except for some shares in a gold fund and a silver fund....time to wait and see now ..in my opinion..
    Took profits on 70% of my dumpster-dive longs. Swear I was going to buy and hold but when the full faith and credit of Uncle Sam's stimulus gives you 3 up days you take what you can

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    Took profits on 70% of my dumpster-dive longs. Swear I was going to buy and hold but when the full faith and credit of Uncle Sam's stimulus gives you 3 up days you take what you can
    That is my viewpoint as well.
    what's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    Took profits on 70% of my dumpster-dive longs. Swear I was going to buy and hold but when the full faith and credit of Uncle Sam's stimulus gives you 3 up days you take what you can
    You're a smart man Lee.
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    I think you'd have an easier time understanding people if you remembered that 80% of them are fucking morons.
    That is why I like dogs, more than most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    You're a smart man Lee.
    Carnival Cruise Lines from 10 to 18 in 5 trading sessions? While i have faith in the cult of cruising and old people it's crazy not to take that off the table. My feeling is I'll be buying it back under 10.

    Looking into dumpster diving consumer geared div yields like TAP, T.TO also but they're still a bit rich

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    i missed my XOM buy but still set to acquire in the 20’s in a long term account. we shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    Carnival Cruise Lines from 10 to 18 in 5 trading sessions? While i have faith in the cult of cruising and old people it's crazy not to take that off the table. My feeling is I'll be buying it back under 10.

    Looking into dumpster diving consumer geared div yields like TAP, T.TO also but they're still a bit rich
    Can the jongs (me) get Lee's greatest buy recommendations for the upcoming stock market apocalypse?
    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    I think you'd have an easier time understanding people if you remembered that 80% of them are fucking morons.
    That is why I like dogs, more than most people.

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    Tested positive for rat flu

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    Quote Originally Posted by klauss View Post
    who the hell underworte Ackman's CDS bet at the beginning of march when the writing was already on the wall for $26 mill in premium? Some real life axe capital shit

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/days-a...gainst-market/
    Did anybody else see Ackman basically cause a market halt last Wednesday while spreading doom and gloom on CNBC. He talked about how he was buying equities that day, but it was obvious he was massively short.

    Edit: I guess the article was partly about his CNBC appearance. Surprised they didn’t mention the middle of the day halt that he seemed to have caused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Lavigne View Post
    Did anybody else see Ackman basically cause a market halt last Wednesday while spreading doom and gloom on CNBC. He talked about how he was buying equities that day, but it was obvious he was massively short.

    Edit: I guess the article was partly about his CNBC appearance. Surprised they didn’t mention the middle of the day halt that he seemed to have caused.
    not to excuse his talking up his own trades to profit thereof....He and others like him do that all the time on CNBC ...Bloomberg tv.. Marketwatch..etcetera.. its been happening for years.. and it will probably continue for many more years
    what's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    I was just thinking how this is such an historic day in American capitalism. A UE report that is so insanely high they had to expand the chart, over 3 million reporting, but the equity markets go up over 6%, topping off a three day 20% rally, the best three day period since 1933, all based on hopes that the largest federal stimulus package ever passed by the Senate, over 2 trillion dollars and containing very socialist support of corporations and individuals, with new regulations . Totally bizarre.
    That's not capitalism. There will be a new name for that. Oligarchy? Welfare state? Corporatism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    Took profits on 70% of my dumpster-dive longs. Swear I was going to buy and hold but when the full faith and credit of Uncle Sam's stimulus gives you 3 up days you take what you can
    I also called it a day mid-afternoon. The next six months are for those folks with the steel cojones. Good luck to all and stay safe.
    Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well.

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    I didn't let myself look at my entire portfolio for a long time. I finally took a look today and shifted some stuff around.

    Across my investment accounts, I'm now 50% equities, 39% bonds and 11% gold.

    I'm wanting to move to an allocation of-
    30% - Stocks
    15% - Intermediate-term bonds
    40% - Long-term bonds
    7.5% - Gold
    7.5% - Commodities

    The main issue I'm having is a lack of availability of treasury bond index funds/ETFs in my 401k. The closest we've got is VBTLX but that is exposed to corporate bonds, which I expect to tank in the not too distant future. My 401K is larger than my IRA/Roth IRA and brokerage account combined, so I won't be able to achieve the asset allocation I want even if I move my the entirety of my other accounts to mid term and long term T Bonds indices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    Can the jongs (me) get Lee's greatest buy recommendations for the upcoming stock market apocalypse?
    Do recall I bought IVR the day before it dropped 50%. It's regained most of what it lost. I mean i know you're joking kinda

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    Is the stock market going to tank?

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    T Bonds indices.
    Brock used to talk about that; risk in duration bond funds. He’s right. I’m 98% cash because there’s just too much risk in duration. Downside risk just not worth it.

    If you have target funds maybe dig into the holdings a little deeper. Or perhaps a real asset fund that has tips and commodities.

    I’m with Stu sitting on the sideline. The risk reward just isn’t there. 20% up or down seems reasonable for equity

    If I had to pick a long term equity it would probably be China FXI. 3.5% dividend. Near multi year lows, Higher yield on Currency, (RMB has been weak) and they haven’t really used any stimulus yet. China stocks and bonds are getting added to MSCI indices regularly now which makes them investable for institutions.

    PFF was a good buy at $26. Kicking myself on that one.

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    Emerging markets are very cheap, us still expensive.

    I've been shorting the russel 2000 and buying turkey, Russia, Greece, Singapore, Malaysia, Poland, Eastern Europe, Italy, Spain

    Not all emerging, but all with cape ratio under 10.

    Still have 50 percent in less than 2 year treasuries.

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    Every time I read this thread I cannot keep myself from thinking that the grandma with the cash under the mattress or in coffee cans hidden about was on to something that just fails to resonate generation after generation.

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    Is the stock market going to tank?

    Quote Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark View Post
    Every time I read this thread I cannot keep myself from thinking that the grandma with the cash under the mattress or in coffee cans hidden about was on to something that just fails to resonate generation after generation.
    I’ll always hate the mkt. I think people in the USA are generally over sold stocks and not qualified to handle the risk. I meet a lot of seniors who were whip sawed and wiped out in 2008. Same probably now. Now, if you dollar cost average into the mkt your whole life, then fine. Or if you picked good stocks you like, fine. But the whole industry is geared to fuck the little guy. My best trading was always in stocks that went to zero, so I’m a bit negative. Have to be.

    Probably doesn’t help bonds pay shit, but that’s only part of the same problem with us bailing out everyone with trillion dollar packages.

    We’re scraping resin at this point.


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    In 2009-2010 300 banks went bankrupt. It was almost a daily event. I have to think retail and restaurants will have the same fate. When the dominoes start falling it will happen fast. They were already weak from getting Amazon'd

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...3present)#2008

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    The precious metal funds I owned started to go south this morning for some reason..so I sold.. Completely in cash now...
    what's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?

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