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  1. #10026
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    Not stock related, but some good stimulus news

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...humer-n1168466
    Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident

  2. #10027
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Not stock related, but some good stimulus news

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...humer-n1168466
    There are a lot of people working at the properties. I'm not sure I'm against helping those businesses with some oversight. Had he divested into a trust it wouldn't be an issue.

  3. #10028
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    Fuck him.

    For fucks sake , for almost three years he's been using taxpayer money in the millions for profit at his properties.

  4. #10029
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    Quote Originally Posted by MCS5280 View Post
    Today seems like a good point to get off the rollercoaster...
    Two big rallies and giant unemployment numbers forecast. The unemployment is at least partially baked in but you have to wonder.

  5. #10030
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Fuck him.

    For fucks sake , for almost three years he's been using taxpayer money in the millions for profit at his properties.
    Yup, slimiest POTUS in my lifetime. Fuck that guy and the people that enable him.
    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    I think you'd have an easier time understanding people if you remembered that 80% of them are fucking morons.
    That is why I like dogs, more than most people.

  6. #10031
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    I hope they're all lined up for trials in N.Y. when all this is over.

  7. #10032
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazderati View Post
    Two big rallies and giant unemployment numbers forecast. The unemployment is at least partially baked in but you have to wonder.
    What are the chances that the unemployment numbers are cooked to keep the bounce going?

  8. #10033
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    Quote Originally Posted by MCS5280 View Post
    Today seems like a good point to get off the rollercoaster...
    It is for me. Was waiting for a nice bounce before pulling enough cash out so that I won't be crushed if the entire show falls apart.

  9. #10034
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoova View Post
    What are the chances that the unemployment numbers are cooked to keep the bounce going?
    Well Trump doesn't want the states reporting them, so I would wonder what the BLS has been ordered to withhold by Trump.
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

  10. #10035
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Too early to tell. It will depend on how MBS recovers. Securitized mortgage loans could still have liquidity problems. If you can't sell bonds you can't sell mortgages.
    Just talked to a mortgage broker. They have ceased doing any construction loans. Too much risk, and no one is buying them. All their business on refi's has completely dried up. Two weeks ago, busiest they ever have been. Now, crickets.
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

  11. #10036
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    Just talked to a mortgage broker. They have ceased doing any construction loans. Too much risk, and no one is buying them. All their business on refi's has completely dried up. Two weeks ago, busiest they ever have been. Now, crickets.
    Buddy of mine is a broker for a large bank in CLT. He was swamped and made some serious bank of refi. Told me purchase money loans are almost dead. No one wants to have strangers in their house or tour anyone else's. Makes sense.

  12. #10037
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncskier View Post
    Buddy of mine is a broker for a large bank in CLT. He was swamped and made some serious bank of refi. Told me purchase money loans are almost dead. No one wants to have strangers in their house or tour anyone else's. Makes sense.
    Yep, I think things on the RE side are going to be dead for another 8-12 weeks.

    I can see the home construction and remodel industry go into the tank for 2nd qtr and probably the rest of this year.
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

  13. #10038
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    Vix still at 60! No one selling yet.


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  14. #10039
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    There are a lot of people working at the properties. I'm not sure I'm against helping those businesses with some oversight. Had he divested into a trust it wouldn't be an issue.
    If he is such a successful billionaire, surely he can float the payroll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoova View Post
    What are the chances that the unemployment numbers are cooked to keep the bounce going?
    Here's a preview...


    The number of Americans filing for unemployment is expected to have skyrocketed to a record-breaking 1.5 million for the week ended March 21, according to economists polled by Bloomberg. The previous record was 695,000 claims filed the week ended October 2, 1982. Initial jobless claims for the week ended March 14 jumped by 70,000 claims to 281,000 and was the largest single-week increase since the Great Recession.

    “In previous deep recessions, most notably in 2008 and 1980, initial claims during the worst four weeks of the recession would total 2 [million], Nomura economist Lewis Alexander wrote in a note to clients March 22. “That is consistent with the shock from COVID-19 compressing a significant deterioration in the labor market into a much shorter period relative to previous contractions.”
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

  16. #10041
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    Yield curve is steeping. Another short term victory for Fed.

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    Closed a small gap there.


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  18. #10043
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    Crazy last half hour.

  19. #10044
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    If he is such a successful billionaire, surely he can float the payroll.
    This is fair:

    The legislation prohibits federally elected officials and their immediate relatives from obtaining funds from the $500 billion program.
    Businesses that are owned or partly owned by "the President, the Vice President, the head of an Executive department, or a Member of Congress; and the spouse, child, son-in-law, or daughter-in-law" will be barred. The provision applies to anyone with 20% or greater stake in a business.

  20. #10045
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    Depression is Cancelled?
    When do we all go back to AirBNB and ski season?

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    After everyone is buried or cremated.

  22. #10047
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    I don't know why, but this made me laugh.

    https://twitter.com/EddyElfenbein/st...608321/photo/1
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

  23. #10048
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    I likely should have sold the last big stock fund in my 401k today...

    I'm guessing huge unemployment numbers

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    I think we've seen the last of the panic selling to cover positions. Now the retail sell low investor capitulates.

  25. #10050
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    I think we've seen the last of the panic selling to cover positions. Now the retail sell low investor capitulates.
    Now the truth comes out.


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