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  1. #10551
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    There are now no more borrows on the China coffee stock scam LK.
    There are still no borrows on the China coffee stock scam

    Borrowers seized 76M of the ADRs which was pledged as collateral for loan to chairman. Stock halted

    There's been a plethora of COvid stock scams. Here's a good one https://www.squamishchief.com/pot-an...ATIrOkXwN0sUK4

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    motley fool now pumping Cci reit - cell towers reit

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    Rich old Boomers?
    Though he's technically not rich by his own standards, take Benny as a prime example of that generation.

    On a fixed income, two cats with an occasional gf he meets on Silver Singles.

    He's so angry and depressed right now, he can't see straight. Add in the additional stress that if he catches the virus before they come up with a reliable vaccine his ass is toast. I don't see a bunch of Benny's pulling us out of this.
    "timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennymac View Post
    motley fool now pumping Cci reit - cell towers reit
    Aren’t they suspect to burst into flames?
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennymac View Post
    motley fool now pumping Cci reit - cell towers reit
    I'm looking at UKFG. It's a reit 100% comprised of 5G towers in the United Kingdom. Can't lose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Though he's technically not rich by his own standards, take Benny as a prime example of that generation.

    On a fixed income, two cats with an occasional gf he meets on Silver Singles.

    He's so angry and depressed right now, he can't see straight. Add in the additional stress that if he catches the virus before they come up with a reliable vaccine his ass is toast. I don't see a bunch of Benny's pulling us out of this.
    Well, I was thinking more along the lines of rich Boomers buying the farm and passing all those $$ to their Millennial heirs who will buy Sprinters and Whiteclaw. Keeping the economy alive.


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    That's the hope.
    "timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    Well, I was thinking more along the lines of rich Boomers buying the farm and passing all those $$ to their Millennial heirs who will buy Sprinters and Whiteclaw. Keeping the economy alive.

    There is technically a breaking point for sure. I mean even henry ford learned that lesson when he paid his workers enough to buy his own cars. It was good for his own business. unfortunately it will be a race to the bottom though.

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    Here's a history of unemployment in the US-


    ...and yet the stock market goes up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    That's the hope.
    What do us GenXers get if the Millenials get Sprinters and White Claw?
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    Aren’t they suspect to burst into flames?
    I am awed when researching REITs. They're definitely a business model for another time. Borrow cheap liquid short term. Buy illiquid long term. Make %age on the interest rate arb. Hedge the interest rates. PROFIT

    At least till the short term borrowings become not so liquid. And the interest rate hedges go bad. It's like LTCM all over again. What's that book again?- When Genius Failed

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    What do us GenXers get if the Millenials get Sprinters and White Claw?
    A fairly extensive collection of German industrial music dance mix EP records, stored for even further embarrassment under a box of crumbling Christmas tree ornaments in a Portland, Oregon basement.

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    Hyundais and Corona light.
    "timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    A fairly extensive collection of German industrial music dance mix EP records, stored for even further embarrassment under a box of crumbling Christmas tree ornaments in a Portland, Oregon basement.
    You may forward me all your unwanted Einsturzende Neubauten, KMFDM, DAF, Die Krupps, etc...
    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    CCL update

    NCLH and RCH will have to do a raise

    I'll cover CCL soon. That$8is the commons price and they reduced size of offering so not as dilutive

    The convert is 1.575B and converts at 10. So any stock movement over 10 can be shorted by convert holders
    CCL went to the moon on the news of the Saudi stake. But the Saudi stake in their 13G filing shows they bought in the range of 14- 16 so has little relevance to common shareholders.

    Shorted a bit at 12s. Hedged with (expensive) calls. I like to think I'm selling alongside the converts which have an impressive profit already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    A fairly extensive collection of German industrial music dance mix EP records, stored for even further embarrassment under a box of crumbling Christmas tree ornaments in a Portland, Oregon basement.
    So, next to the Decemberists albums? Got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Hyundais and Corona light.
    We should all be so lucky.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra View Post
    You may forward me all your unwanted Einsturzende Neubauten, KMFDM, DAF, Die Krupps, etc...
    It's a quote from Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated Culture, but I'm pretty sure my brother still has all of his industrial vinyl. I think it would be a cold dead hands situation though.


    eta: but if he gets the covfefe, you'll have first dibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevo View Post
    Here's a history of unemployment in the US-


    ...and yet the stock market goes up.
    don't fight the Fed?

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    $250,000 right now or $704 a month for the rest of your life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    $250,000 right now or $704 a month for the rest of your life?

    https://www.calcxml.com/calculators/...-my-money-last

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    $250,000 right now or $704 a month for the rest of your life?
    Age is a factor and do you want to leave anything to an heir?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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    55 and no heirs apparent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncskier View Post
    don't fight the Fed?
    Population growth and interest rates

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    55 and no heirs apparent.
    Buddy, what about us?
    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    I think you'd have an easier time understanding people if you remembered that 80% of them are fucking morons.
    That is why I like dogs, more than most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    55 and no heirs apparent.
    I'd lean toward the lump sum for two reasons. I assuming you have other saving and SS and this amount is not indexed to inflation.
    1) If you are disciplined and invest even somewhat conservatively in something like TIPS. Even with a 4 % withdrawal per year, you could get $10k a year out and still possibly retain the $250k to leave to a charity or a friend assuming you never use it for anything else like a roof or car.
    2) I don't know who manages this assumed pension, but I have seen them go broke and benefits cut even with the backing of the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation.

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