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  1. #15776
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Problem for ARKK now is TSLA. It can still really get hit.
    Elon should have waited to buy Twitter.

    I think it could be the end of him.


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  2. #15777
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Elon should have waited to buy Twitter.

    I think it could be the end of him.


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    Dude could take a 99% cut in his net worth and still have enough for 1000 lifetimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Elon should have waited to buy Twitter.

    I think it could be the end of him.


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    he needed the narrative control and pivot to pizzagaters now (and it was never a smart move)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Why are interest rates up but banks not paying anything for savings accounts? I'm earning 0.01% from USAA.
    I read (a) that there is usually a lag between Fed. interest rate hikes and payable interest on savings accounts and (b) in addition to that lag, banks have so much cash that they have no need for our cash and therefore are unlikely to offer higher rates to attract consumer deposits for some time to come.

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    ARKK would have been holding up better with more TSLA, seems they have a 10% limit. But you think TSLA has room to fall, how the mighty will fall...
    Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, drink the drink, taste the fruit, and resign yourself to the influences of each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Sell when you can, not when you have to.




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    Now you tell me!
    Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, drink the drink, taste the fruit, and resign yourself to the influences of each.
    Henry David Thoreau

  7. #15782
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    Is the stock market going to tank?

    Checking and savings accounts are a service. At my Credit Union I can get a much higher rate but I’m required to use their payment service with some other incentives. Just have a money market account you can transfer from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shera View Post
    ARKK would have been holding up better with more TSLA, seems they have a 10% limit. But you think TSLA has room to fall, how the mighty will fall...
    I do for a lot of reasons. Primarily now is that large investors aren’t going to risk having leadership in the middle of political and social opinion.

  9. #15784
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    is it time to buy buy buy Palantir yet?


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  10. #15785
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    Quote Originally Posted by east or bust View Post
    is it time to buy buy buy Palantir yet?


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    Jesus, what went wrong there?


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    Quote Originally Posted by RoooR View Post
    Dude could take a 99% cut in his net worth and still have enough for 1000 lifetimes.
    And with 1% of his previous net worth he would no longer be anyones hero.


    Guy leverage a lot of Tesla to buy Twitter and he could be called in on it before the deal is even done.

    Tesla is could easily see under $500, where I read he’s fucked.


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  12. #15787
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    Well I hope he doesn't have to shut down Starlink. That product has literally been life changing for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Jesus, what went wrong there?


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    Peter Thiel? He’s a lot like Musk. I doubt current admin cares to do business with him.

    “The company, known for its work with the U.S. Army and the Central Intelligence Agency, said it still sees a "wide range" of potential upside to its forecast from "developing geopolitical events".

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoooR View Post
    Well I hope he doesn't have to shut down Starlink. That product has literally been life changing for me.
    Isn't that SpaceX, not tesla?
    Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, drink the drink, taste the fruit, and resign yourself to the influences of each.
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    A close below 2.90% on the 5y this week will be a reversal on the weekly chart. Almost a 20bps range today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Elon should have waited to buy Twitter.

    I think it could be the end of him.


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    He can still back out, no? Besides maybe the Russians will get him and he will be found dead of an apparent suicide.
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

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    Is the stock market going to tank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    He can still back out, no?.
    Yes. TSLA would rally. TWTR $7 below the buyout price now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    He can still back out, no? Besides maybe the Russians will get him and he will be found dead of an apparent suicide.
    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/d...132324591.html

    It seems the Russian government isn’t too happy with Elon Musk.

    “If I die under mysterious circumstances, it’s been nice knowin ya,” the billionaire Tesla cofounder told his 91.6 million Twitter followers on Sunday night, after claiming he’d been threatened by a top Russian official over SpaceX’s use of its Starlink satellites to provide internet in Ukraine.
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

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    Stocks down
    Energy down
    Commodities down
    Gold down
    Crypto down
    Bonds down
    Dollar up

    What does that spell?
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Checking and savings accounts are a service. At my Credit Union I can get a much higher rate but I’m required to use their payment service with some other incentives. Just have a money market account you can transfer from.
    Money market rates seem the same if not lower than what I'm getting now in my high yield savings account.

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    Is the stock market going to tank?

    Been saying the Bond Market is broken. Not acting right. I’m not alone. Sorry can’t legally cut and paste. Just search Fed liquidity


    Fed sites liquidity risks:

    https://www.ft.com/content/0dafe9f5-...c-190ee2a54781

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    the Bond Market is broken. Not acting right.
    FWIW, historically this is how bond markets behave when the Fed waits too long to start raising rates after the economy goes from rising inflation, rising growth to falling growth, rising inflation. The Fed reacted too late in adjusting rates and as a result there's an enormous 6% gap between what the Taylor Rule says interest rates should be and the actual Fed funds target rate.

    Contrary to expectations of Treasurys rallying when yield spreads are rising, in the past when the Taylor gap was as large as it is today Treasury returns still ended negative and performed about the same as the S&P 500 over the same period. Although 5YR treasury returns tend to slightly outperform the S&P 500 and 10YR returns. In the past when the divergence was this large it took on average just over 30 months or ~2.5 yrs for bond markets to normalize.

    "Should the Federal Reserve cease in their efforts to calm inflation before it has been fully restrained, bond investors should be wary."

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    That’s all true but it’s the notchy fast moves in yield lately. Perhaps because yields ave exceeded the expectation of hedges.

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    Is the stock market going to tank?

    Currently sitting on a bunch of cash. No idea what to do with it. Money is earmarked to one day be spent on a down payment for a mountain house. Do I just leave it sit or invest it somewhere? I really don’t want to lose liquidity to either pivot to equities or real estate though. Currently collecting a whopping .25%.


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    Wait till the market drops a lot more. It's still expensive

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