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  1. #12476
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcsquared View Post
    Every day you don't sell you are essentially buying at that price. If you found some money would you buy those same stocks?

    I am not in Leelau's league but I have puts on GLD, QQQ, and calls on UUP. All are in the money right now after this sell into the close.
    well, that isn't going very well.

  2. #12477
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    Playing the upcoming US Civil War with LMT calls and ootm SPY puts expiring post election. Although history does show wars provide economic stimulus.

  3. #12478
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    no matter. cbmc huh.
    plenty of pasty white fucks all lost and shit today.
    plenty..

  4. #12479
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    Feds charge Seattle-area Amazon employee with insider trading

    Laksha Bohra, a former manager in Amazon’s Tax Division; her husband, Viky Bohra; and father-in-law Gotham Bohra, have agreed to pay back the stock gains, as well as another $1.2 million in penalties and interest. The U.S. attorney simultaneously filed criminal charges against Viky Bohra.

    While vacationing in Europe in April 2018, for instance, Laksha Bohra logged in remotely to Amazon’s network to view the company’s preliminary first-quarter earnings statements. The same day, betting Amazon shares would rise after the company announced its earnings, Viky and Gotham Bohra purchased options to buy Amazon shares at a specified price, the complaint alleged. The shares did rise after the earnings report — by 3.6% in one day, netting the Bohras nearly $600,000 in profit on the stock trades.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...sider-trading/

  5. #12480
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    My TD Ameritrade account was approved for a margin account. Still reading about the concept, (like I said earlier I’m new to this stuff.) seems kind of a no brainer to use their money to make money? (Minus interest and what not.)

    Iffin I’m reading right I don’t want to be in super risky stuff with the borrowed shares? I have 11k in, not sure yet how much I’ll be able to use on the margin. I’m assuming I don’t want to use it all and leave some in the account?

    My account was approved today but the totals are kinda wonky, my buying power show differing things between the laptop and app. My costs/share all halved and my gains all went to positive, except one I was far down on?

  6. #12481
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    Switch to IB if you're going to trade on margin. Tough to make money paying 9% interest

    https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=44427

  7. #12482
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    Bob, are you doing this with play money? (Which is kind of the spirit of a lot of this thread.)
    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

  8. #12483
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobMc View Post
    My TD Ameritrade account was approved for a margin account. Still reading about the concept, (like I said earlier I知 new to this stuff.) seems kind of a no brainer to use their money to make money? (Minus interest and what not.)

    Iffin I知 reading right I don稚 want to be in super risky stuff with the borrowed shares? I have 11k in, not sure yet how much I値l be able to use on the margin. I知 assuming I don稚 want to use it all and leave some in the account?

    My account was approved today but the totals are kinda wonky, my buying power show differing things between the laptop and app. My costs/share all halved and my gains all went to positive, except one I was far down on?
    Bro. Just.... No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobMc View Post
    My TD Ameritrade account was approved for a margin account. Still reading about the concept, (like I said earlier I知 new to this stuff.) seems kind of a no brainer to use their money to make money? (Minus interest and what not.)

    Iffin I知 reading right I don稚 want to be in super risky stuff with the borrowed shares? I have 11k in, not sure yet how much I値l be able to use on the margin. I知 assuming I don稚 want to use it all and leave some in the account?

    My account was approved today but the totals are kinda wonky, my buying power show differing things between the laptop and app. My costs/share all halved and my gains all went to positive, except one I was far down on?
    Do not do it.

    Have you ever been at the card table and thought, 的 have a great idea, instead of using my money, I知 going to use Vinny the loan sharks money.? No? Because that is almost exactly what you are doing. Sure if you win you win more, but if you lose you lose more.

  10. #12485
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    seems kind of a no brainer to use their money to make money? (Minus interest and what not.)
    Yeah what could possibly go wrong.

  11. #12486
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    Margin is ok if want to short term trade with some leverage to maintain long term positions for tax reasons, short against a long term holding etc. you just have to have a risk plan and stick to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobMc View Post
    My TD Ameritrade account was approved for a margin account. Still reading about the concept, (like I said earlier I知 new to this stuff.) seems kind of a no brainer to use their money to make money? (Minus interest and what not.)


    Two words: 杜argin call

  13. #12488
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    They will liquidate you before you go debit. So there痴 that.

  14. #12489
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Switch to IB if you're going to trade on margin. Tough to make money paying 9% interest

    Yeah, that definitely looks better.

    https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=44427
    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra View Post
    Bob, are you doing this with play money? (Which is kind of the spirit of a lot of this thread.)
    Isn’t it all play money? In essence yes, I started with cash my wife let me use. For the last cramped up corona time I’ve been taking all the cash I’d usually spend on fishing/guns/ammo and pilfering it into my account.

    Hoping to pay for a cruise next year and keep my original cash. I’ve still got my 100 shares of Carnival and get $100 on board credit for having them, which was the original impetus into this foray. Saw shares trading for $12 that were $50 in January. Carnival has been diluted a lot by debt, but trust me people are dying (heh) to cruise and they’ll be back. The CDC put on the no sail order last april for 100 days, 8 days before it expired they extended it to September 30th. It expires Wednesday, no word on an extension. The cruise industry submitted new guidelines a few weeks ago. I wouldn’t be surprised if the order is allowed to expire.

    I personally wouldn’t get on a ship right now and I’m happy my sailing is deep into next year. But, like I’ve said in the past I read cruise message boards and groups, and there are plenty of people itching to fill staterooms.

    It’s pretty funny I’m the person Benny was complaining about upthread. It is like gambling, and just like gambling there are ways to increase your odds of success.

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    Long-Term McCapital. Risky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobMc View Post

    It痴 pretty funny I知 the person Benny was complaining about upthread. It is like gambling, and just like gambling there are ways to increase your odds of success.
    In gambling aren稚 登dds always the same? J/k...semantics. The reason the market is different is you make your own rules for the game.

  17. #12492
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    In gambling aren’t “odds” always the same? J/k...semantics. The reason the market is different is you make your own rules for the game.
    I like that, when I wrote that thought I did think about gambling in it’s purest form is percentages. Like you say, they don’t change on a basic level, the market is entirely different.

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    If you are prepared to lose it all, using leverage is one way to do that. You increase the potential money you might win on a trade, that痴 true. But you also amplify what you can lose.

    The problem is, you can win for several days and feel great about it, so there痴 no way you値l stop and pull your money out. And then all it takes is one sharp downturn to wipe you out.

    Don稚 get me wrong, sharp people make lots of money using leverage and trading options. But beginners almost always lose trying to play that game.

  19. #12494
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    Bob fwiw the majority ( 90%) of my portfolio is a cash account which I effectively don't trade except for rebalancing).

    10% is margin and for these more exotic play ideas I post as thought and real life experiments.

    Margin is nice until it isn't. My margin account is at IB per what 4matic said

  20. #12495
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcsquared View Post
    Bro. Just.... No.
    I will echo this sentiment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobMc View Post
    I like that, when I wrote that thought I did think about gambling in it痴 purest form is percentages. Like you say, they don稚 change on a basic level, the market is entirely different.
    It depends on if you池e gambling on cards or horses.
    U.P.: up

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobMc View Post
    Camping World's earnings report came out looking good after hours yesterday. Bought it 4/13 at $7.22, sold it last night after hours for $13.30, score! Picked up Bed Bath and Beyond this morning, hoping for a score on that as well.
    Glad I bought BBBY, it's the only thing holding my portfolio up!

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    I've dug my heels in on CVX and XOM. To the abyss!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazderati View Post
    I've dug my heels in on CVX and XOM. To the abyss!
    I know that feeling, I'm holding XOM, MRO, and CLB. All way off...

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    Still you're getting paid a nice dividend to wait

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