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  1. #2676
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ID:	290368 probably doing this wrong but hereís an attempt at a TR from recent running adventures in Ze Olde Country. Lake Como (near Menaggio)^

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    Tignet/ Peymeinade, FR

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    Aix-en-Provence


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  2. #2677
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    Old Larry runs in loafers?

    Nice TR
    watch out for snakes

  3. #2678
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    Quote Originally Posted by SB View Post
    Old Larry runs in loafers?

    Nice TR
    Hah! Thanks! Actually my latest pair of hokas is falling apart prematurely. Kind of a bummer- anyone have experience w their warranty policy?


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  4. #2679
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viva View Post
    How'd the race go, bjenn?
    The 55k? I finished!!! That was my goal. The course way much harder than I had even imagined. The first 23 miles were good and I was doing much better than I expected, but then the talus field and downhill from hell. Of course, my fiend that ran it with me and I are already talking about next year. Oh, how quickly we forget! It was beautiful and I really should spend more time up there exploring.

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  5. #2680
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    Congrats, Jenny!
    Thatís awesome!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutmegchoi View Post
    Congrats, Jenny!
    That’s awesome!!
    Thanks Nutmeg!! I can't believe I did it! I am so slow, but don't really care. While climbing through the talus from hell at 10K elev. I got mad. I kept telling myself I was going to finish the damn race even if it killed me. Then, I kept telling myself, it's just like hiking the headwall, one foot in front of the other! I was so looking forward to an 8 mile cruise downhill to the finish, but no, it was super steep and rocky for about 2 miles. That made me even madder. Easy downhill to the finish my ass! The last 4.5 miles were probably really nice, but it was dark and at that point and I didn't give a fuck any more. LOL!

    I told my my friend at the end "Never Again!" Apparently, we picked a hard one for our first 55k. Of course, an hour later, driving back to the cabin, we were both like, "I think I could do it faster..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutmegchoi View Post
    Congrats, Jenny!
    Thatís awesome!!
    Ya super impressive!


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    Nice work, Jenny!

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    Good cloud from earlier today

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    Brandine: Now Cletus, if I catch you with pig lipstick on your collar one more time you ain't gonna be allowed to sleep in the barn no more!
    Cletus: Duly noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bjenny View Post
    I told my my friend at the end "Never Again!" Apparently, we picked a hard one for our first 55k. Of course, an hour later, driving back to the cabin, we were both like, "I think I could do it faster..."
    Lol

    Congrats on persevering!

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    Getting outpaced by my buddy heading up Audubon
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    Then my shitty phone died. Kind of a lump of a mountain but the views are sick. Was actually able to stay in front of my buddy on the way down, which happens about 2% of the time, as the only part of running I'm much good at is running down trails covered in loose rocks. Oh to be young and fast.

  12. #2687
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    ^^^Audubon is great! Nice pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds! View Post

    Doebedoe and Snowshow, any interest in meeting up for a run? Danno? I'm coming off injury, but starting to feel ok. Doing the equivalent of two of the above a week at a very leisurely pace along with some shorter runs with my old dog.
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    Just saw this. But I think I'm too slow for you, my usual run right now is 3 miles, 1000 vert, 45 minutes. 30 minutes up, 15 down.
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    ^^^just saw this too. Iím waaaaay too slow, sorry! Iím a total beginner at trail running.

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    Not necessarily running but anyone try these new shoes from Altra?

    https://www.altrarunning.com/shop/ou...display#hero=3

    I'm most interested in using as an all-purpose hiking and mtn bike/bikepacking shoe. I have wide feet with a slight taylors bunion that developed last year, and lately have been searching for shoes with a wider toe box (rather than wide EE size). Haven't tried altra shoes before... how do they run size-wise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Just saw this. But I think I'm too slow for you, my usual run right now is 3 miles, 1000 vert, 45 minutes. 30 minutes up, 15 down.
    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    ^^^just saw this too. Iím waaaaay too slow, sorry! Iím a total beginner at trail running.
    Whatever. I'm never fast (especially by Boulder standards) and I'm just getting back at it after 6 months off. I'm both slow AND forcing myself to go even slower than I want for a while to avoid another injury. Slow runs with walking mixed in is my jam right now. Just want to keep upping the miles/frequency/vert for a couple months without adding any intensity. Plus my wife is due with boy number 2 in a few weeks. Having some regularly scheduled runs is just what I need to keep my body from falling apart once the sleep becomes shitty.

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    Well, I gave you precise numbers about my speed, if that isn't too slow I'd be happy to go on a run with ya
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    Saturday run Danno/ISBD/SnowShow? I won't be going fast -- I've run two trails in my life.

    Prefer early. Supposed to do 8 in my training plan but flexible on that.

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    ^^^^^^ I think I can do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doebedoe View Post
    Saturday run Danno/ISBD/SnowShow? I won't be going fast -- I've run two trails in my life.

    Prefer early. Supposed to do 8 in my training plan but flexible on that.
    I'm in for tomorrow. Any time in the morning works.

  21. #2696
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    You guys heard of this Jim Walmsy guy? I just got sucked into Western State YouTube rabbit hole and came out inspired by him and everyone who can actually run 100 miles.

    Then looking at their numbers coming into big events 120 -140 miles a week?!

    I decide to up my game from 2.5 years of 20 mile average and get some big weeks coming into this trail marathon now 4 weeks out.

    Last week I pushed for 60 mile week but only managed 55. My old record was 53 which was last year during the week of same marathon.

    Any you guys done consistent 60 plus mile weeks? It seems to be a lot of effort... Iím gonna now do 45 this week then bump to 65 next week then back down to 45 then taper leading into race week .

    I swear their is heavy mental component in regards to injury prevention and actual capability. Despite the big bump in miles last week my legs feel deceptively springy like they are saying ď finally bring it!!Ē

    Weí ll see how it goes , I didnít have nearly the mileage last year as Iím gettin now, thanks Jim!

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    People running over 50mpw with full time jobs and/or kids amaze me.

    At 30mpw and I already want extra food, extra sleep and lots of foam rolling.

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    If you're training for long-distance races, then a good percentage of your weekly mileage comes from a single long run (When I raced, a long run could be from 20 to 45 miles depending on how I felt and what the goals were).

    Looking back,, I would have focused more on shorter long runs (i.e., 20-25 miles) but at greater intensity. I feel that shorter-but-faster runs benefited me far more than the longer (30+ mile) efforts, even for 100 miler training.

    BTW, I appeared in at least five (5) of those We$tern $tates videos over the years. Never seen any of them myself, but folks keep telling me, that they saw me in last year's, etc.
    °”rale, vato!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpathian View Post
    Weí ll see how it goes , I didnít have nearly the mileage last year as Iím gettin now, thanks Jim!
    I'm probably not qualified to give you running advice, and I will probably never run a 100 miler, but listen to your body. I'm a less than hack compared to Viva, but have had some similar experience. Runs much over 20 miles always seem to have negative effect on my fitness, even when building up mileage very conservatively. I'd bet $$$$$$ your tolerance for long runs is higher than mine, but keep a look out for diminishing returns.

    I've also found that when I'm trying to put together some high mileage weeks, I do better with 4 longer runs a week that 5-6 shorter ones. And a couple hardish sessions in the weight room each week helps keep me feeling healthy and balanced, even if it makes my legs feel a bit heavier and reduces the total mileage I'm capable of. Seems every time I get hurt it's when I neglect the lifting. Obviously other folks respond to different approaches.

    The last thing is that if you're used to running in the hills or mountains, a long flat run can feel fine while you're out there, but fuck you up afterwards. Be careful with changes even if they seem like they should result in less intensity.

    Again, given your track record you're certain to be capable of handling more volume than me. Just throwing out a few things that have been important for me to attend to. The importance of these things seems to get magnified when I'm running over 50 miles a week. Apologies If I'm stating what is obvious.

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    I'm plugging away at training for my first marathon. The time commitment is definitely a little daunting. I'll run 30 miles this week which is big for me but I can't fathom the amount of time and miles that the pros and semi-pros do every week. I guess it helps when your easy runs are at a 7:30/mile pace. At my easy run pace of 10-11 min/mile, running 40 miles takes 7 hours.

    I recently finished reading 80/20 running by Matt Fitzgerald. His methodologies seem really well researched and backed by good science. At this point, I'm just focused on following a simple plan but if I continue with running (which I expect I will), I'll most likely get a little more detailed in my training and follow something like the ideas that are laid out in that book. I'll also likely need to ramp up my mileage quite a bit if I'm going to do some of the things that I have in mind for next summer.

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