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  1. #2976
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    Quote Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds! View Post
    It's ok if you walk, especially uphill.
    This, too. Walk/power hike everything more than a gentle uphill grade. Running uphill is way more physically taxing but only marginally faster.

  2. #2977
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    First off -- listen again and again to the injury advice. Not getting injured in training is by far the most important part. I broke my ankle almost 2 years ago (don't do drugs while backpacking kids) and am in constant in/out of shape because of it. Ran a trail half in april, only to roll my ankle while gardening a week later and ending up likely needing surgery (MRI scheduled.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    This, too. Walk/power hike everything more than a gentle uphill grade. Running uphill is way more physically taxing but only marginally faster.
    Running feels good but at a certain grade it just isn't fast. Trail runner this morning was surprised to see me at the alpine lake when he arrived. He started 10min after me (~3mi, 2000' of vert). I hiked.

  3. #2978
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    Really good advice from everyone. I started trail running 3 years ago, 55k my longest, no desire for longer distances. I知 not fast by any means. I am a lazy trail runner, more about getting out and enjoying the scenery. I do back to back runs on weekends, but only after training for many weeks. My long run is on Saturday and Sunday is only 4-6 miles, slow, recovery run.

    Surprisingly, the foot pain is completely gone after the injection. My race partner, is also out of the race for sure as of today. Sort of lost some motivation now. I知 in Tx for the week finally visiting my family since the shutdown. I値l decide what to do when I get back to Idaho. Who knows, maybe the place will be on fire with the way things are going.

    However, I知 determined to not stop running completely this summer. I did that last summer with everything being cancelled and now I知 paying the price. I was doing really well with my running until I just said 都crew this last August.

  4. #2979
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    Injury, aches, and pains suck, especially (for me!) as I get older and life priorities get more complex. I致e mentioned this before, I was referred to a physiatrist (aka Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation physician) when I was having recurring problems to my lower back. By the time of my visit, my back was feeling better, so he just gave me a consultation, which included a recommendation of the recently published book, Ready to Run, by Kelley Starrett. For me, this was a good recommendation.

    The book has a lot of recommendations, stretches, and exercises to improve and maintain mobility to allow us to run throughout our lives. I致e found it very helpful as a baseline reference document. Caveat: I do not like Starrett痴 general tone of his writing, but I use the internal filter that I developed while participating on this forum.

  5. #2980
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    Trails in there somewhere

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    It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. 胞rnest Hemingway

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    Seward celebrates a 1-2 finish by locals in women’s Mount Marathon race



    SEWARD — The competition in the women’s race was fierce Wednesday at the 93rd edition of Mount Marathon. So was the camaraderie.

    The town celebrated a 1-2 finish by Seward runners Hannah Lafleur and Ruby Lindquist, with Lafleur repeating as champion and Lindquist enjoying her best finish in three races.

    Two-time champion Christy Marvin of Palmer was third and Rosie Frankowski of Anchorage was fourth, and at the finish line, all four women gathered to continue the lovefest that unfolded on the mountain.

    Thank you, Lafleur said to Marvin, for spurring her up the route — which tops out at 2,974 feet — and providing encouragement as they chased Frankowski to the top.

    “Christy started egging me on, so thanks for that,” Lafleur said.

    Frankowski, a monster on the uphill, set a torrid pace to the summit just as she did in 2018. And just like that year, runners more adept at the steep, dangerous descent left Frankowski behind on the way down, with Lindquist leading the way, followed by Lafleur and Marvin.

    Frankowski cheered them as they passed.



    As Lindquist neared the bottom of the mountain, Lafleur claimed the lead just before the cliffs.

    “I was thinking, ‘I have to gap as much as I can,’ and here she comes, and I said, ‘Go Hannah!’ " Lindquist said.

    There’s a 19-year age range among the women -- Lindquist is 21, Frankowski 29, Lafleur 32 and Marvin 40 -- but just 82 seconds separated them at the finish line.

    Lafleur won in 51 minutes, 24 seconds. Lindquist was second in 51:38, followed by Marvin in 52:21 and Frankowski in 52:56.


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    https://www.adn.com/sports/2021/07/0...rathon-race/#_

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    David Norris goes 3-for-3 with Mount Marathon win


    SEWARD The race announcer called David Norris 鍍he pride of Alaska Wednesday as the Anchorage man headed to the Fourth Avenue finish line behind the police car that traditionally escorts the Mount Marathon leader partway down the street with flashing lights and a blaring siren.

    That phrase has followed Norris since his 2016 record-breaking run here, when he reclaimed the race record for Alaska by topping the 2015 record set by Kilian Jornet, a professional skyrunner from Spain -- the first and only non-Alaska man to hold the record in Alaska痴 most famous footrace.

    But after Wednesday, Norris might have to share the 菟ride of Alaska title with the race itself.

    He claimed his third victory with a time of 43 minutes, 27 seconds, a dominating performance that put him more than two minutes ahead of a pair of Lower 48 runners who finished second and third. Sam Hendry, an NCAA skier for the University of Utah, was second in 46:00 and Darren Thomas, a Salomon-sponsored runner from Nevada, was third in 46:09.

    Believe it when we say the two visitors will be sharing the Mount Marathon gospel when they go home.

    泥ude, it痴 so awesome, Thomas said. 典his is the most pure mountain race I can think of. It痴 straight up and straight down -- no messing around.

    的知 used to more 羨merican races -- races that don稚 have (such big) crowds and also aren稚 as steep. Alaska doesn稚 mess around.
    Thomas was one of five professional runners representing Salomon, the outdoor gear company that became a race sponsor this year. Hendry came up on his own after hearing about the race from Anchorage痴 Luke Jager, one of Alaska痴 top mountain runners who is teammates with Hendry at Utah.

    Turns out Jager didn稚 oversell a race often described as the toughest 5K on the planet. Mount Marathon is about 3 miles long, and most of it is spent making a 2,974-foot ascent and descent of the peak.

    的t痴 absolutely the funnest race I致e ever done, Hendry said. 鄭ll of the changes -- every part of it is so different. There痴 the road, the rock climb, the aerobic hike to the top, and then you break into the alpine and you池e way above the clouds and the town.

    鄭nd then it痴 crazy coming down the mountain.
    Norris, a 30-year-old World Cup cross-country skier, crushed the uphill climb to build a big lead and was never threatened the rest of the way to win. It was his third victory in three races.

    After the two Outsiders came Eagle River痴 Mikey Connelly, 19, who made his senior debut by placing fourth in 46:27, giving the race three rookies in the top four. Four seconds later was fifth-place Lyon Kopsack of Palmer in 46:31.

    Norris time this year was his slowest so far, trailing the course-record 41:26 he ran in his rookie race in 2016 and the 42:13 that earned him a second win in 2018.


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    https://www.adn.com/sports/2021/07/0...the-mens-race/




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    I've been nursing a pair of Inov8 Trailroc 235s for way too long because I love them and they don't make them anymore. Can anybody suggest something similar? Low drop, roomy toe box, lightweight, and semi-aggressive tread?
    Remind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.

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    I'm mostly pretty happy with the Altra King MT2s I picked up last fall. I say mostly because I do seem to be a little more prone to rolling ankles than my previous shoes (Top Runventure 2). Not sure if it's actually the shoes or just bad luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagtagley View Post
    I've been nursing a pair of Inov8 Trailroc 235s for way too long because I love them and they don't make them anymore. Can anybody suggest something similar? Low drop, roomy toe box, lightweight, and semi-aggressive tread?
    Nike Terra Kiger or Hoka Torrents (not a typical marshmallow Hoka). I do most of my miles in those shoes. Great for dry sandy/dirt trails here in UT. Not sure how they'd do in wetter softer underfoot trails.

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    There is a new Topo Mtn Racer 2 that I really want to try for the roomy toe box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLD in UT View Post
    Nike Terra Kiger or Hoka Torrents (not a typical marshmallow Hoka). I do most of my miles in those shoes. Great for dry sandy/dirt trails here in UT. Not sure how they'd do in wetter softer underfoot trails.
    I am stoked with my pair of Terra Kigers. Got a pair on the cheap and now they're my go-to trail runners

    That said, I bought a pair of inov8 trailrocs, tried em on and they were comfortable but ultimately returned em before using em and went with Salomon Sense Pros instead

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  14. #2989
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagtagley View Post
    I've been nursing a pair of Inov8 Trailroc 235s for way too long because I love them and they don't make them anymore. Can anybody suggest something similar? Low drop, roomy toe box, lightweight, and semi-aggressive tread?
    Like brutah mentioned above, some version of one of the nicer, lighter Salomons would check some of your boxes (not low drop and probably not a roomy toe box). You still might like them though.

  15. #2990
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    Running, Anyone...?

    Topo Athletic works great for me, I知 in the ultraventure. 5mm drop, they also have some 0 drop models. They look basically new after about 400 miles, my Altras always died early deaths mostly from sole separation. Topo is perfectly roomy over my 112mm forefoot.

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