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  1. #2476
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    Average people attempt to hold Eliud Kipchoge’s record marathon pace, hilarity ensues: https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a2...marathon-pace/

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    I knew this last half marathon race was gonna be a tough nut to crack. I told my self I needed to be on aggressive rest program for the week and to freshen up after that trail marathon 7 days ago. But it is hard when you want to keep things moving...

    I partially took my own advice:

    Sunday: 1 hour on mtn bike, trying to spin legs into recovery
    Monday: 30 min lap swim in pool
    Tues: rest
    Wed: run 20 min. Fatigued legs and body
    Thurs: run 30 min faster, residual fatigue in core, legs felt better
    Fri: Rest, I knew I was still tired deep down

    Race morning : heavy drizzle, 40 degrees

    650 people at the start line. Whole stack of 20 something college runners. Oh god this is gonna suck..

    As far as pacing I did exactly what you strive to not do:

    Mile 1) 5:18 , felt surprisingly spry. Looked at watch and knew this was gonna lead to trouble. Intentionally slowed down.

    Mile 2) 11:28 (5:45/mile) Ok if I can just hold this, I'll be around 1:15... my predetermined arrogant goal for the day. 4th place

    Mile 3) 17:15 (5:45/mile) 6th place

    The reality was setting in. I could tell my gas tank was not topped up. The rain picked up in intensity.

    Mile 6) 36:06 (6:01/ mile) Ok Ok, not so bad. I felt mid race surge. It literally took 20 min to really warm up. My legs were bright red from the cold water. 10th place

    Mile 11) 1:08 (6:12/mile) My legs were cold. I could feel the tendons in knees grinding and popping around. Hypothermia real concern. Absolutely soaked. It was now raining so hard my eyes were constantly filling with water like my face was in the shower. And could see breath at same time. The bike path was covered edge to edge with yellow dead leaves and standing water for 100 yards at a time. 12th Place or so

    Mile 12) This section of the trail comes around a point and is now exposed to full blast of wind barreling up the grey cold waters of Cook Inlet.

    The last mile is serious grind up long hill to finish. I am literally slobbering like crazed black lab chasing a ball. Finish on top of hill: 1:23: 24 exact same time as my first half marathon back in June. (6:23/mile) 16th place

    Haggard, went and stretched it out with 30 min lap swim which was nice because when you start already beat, you can focus on good technique. But that is another subject. Hey, any you guys watch Ironman in Kona today? Poor Lionel, I wonder how he will take it...

  3. #2478
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    Got out for an hour and a half this morning along the highline. Perfect running weather at 23* with 3-5" of snow on the ground and plenty of fall color in the trees and understory. Trail was virtually deserted. Gotta love fall running!
    Brandine: Now Cletus, if I catch you with pig lipstick on your collar one more time you ain't gonna be allowed to sleep in the barn no more!
    Cletus: Duly noted.

  4. #2479
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    40s at the bottom, 20s and flurries at the top, 20% grade, deserted.

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    Apparently I was quick on the way down.
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  5. #2480
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    Toronto waterfront marathon on Sunday- anyone else? Beuller?
    No Roger, No Rerun, No Rent

  6. #2481
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    Go get em, Larry! What kinda time are you angling for?
    Brandine: Now Cletus, if I catch you with pig lipstick on your collar one more time you ain't gonna be allowed to sleep in the barn no more!
    Cletus: Duly noted.

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    Running, Anyone...?

    For some reason, I started trail running. I’m not a runner at all, but have been running around Denver/Boulder’s easier foothills trails this past month and I’m hooked!
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    Made it through a 50k on Sunday. Better than my first one despite having the flu the week before. Felt great for 22 miles, then dealt with cramps in my right leg for 4 miles, then the cramps went away and I cruised the last 5. My right foot is pretty damn sore but getting better. Hope to be back out running this weekend. Once I'm feeling good I'm going to try more speed work, along with schlepping water up hill, dumping it, and running down to get ready for ski season.

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    So I used to run a 2-3 times a week when I was in school and for a few years after. Had to stop after the first ACL surgery due to knee pain. Tried a few times over the years but hurt too much. After tearing ACL again back in March and another surgery I got cleared for full activity last month. Doc cleared out some floaties in the knee and trimmed/smoothed out some cartilage during surgery. Wanted to see if I could run again, so I got some new shoes and tried a couple short easy runs. Stiff and sore after first one which is not surprising. After second one with some extra stretching I was fine and its been pretty good since. Planning to slowly increase distance every few weeks. Fun to be back. I mostly MTB but it doesn't keep the heart rate up enough to lose weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruiser View Post
    Go get em, Larry! What kinda time are you angling for?
    Was looking for anything ~4:00 and ran a 3:58. Happy w it- has been a great weekend with the fam and all, too.
    No Roger, No Rerun, No Rent

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    For some reason, I started trail running. I’m not a runner at all, but have been running around Denver/Boulder’s easier foothills trails this past month and I’m hooked!
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    That’s awesome- jealous that’s right out your door...
    No Roger, No Rerun, No Rent

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldLarry View Post
    Was looking for anything ~4:00 and ran a 3:58. Happy w it- has been a great weekend with the fam and all, too.
    Dang, OldLary!
    Congrats!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutmegchoi View Post
    Dang, OldLary!
    Congrats!!
    Thank you!
    No Roger, No Rerun, No Rent

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    strong work, OL and ISBD

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    Running in quality loafer must be the key. Well done.

    I agree it is a constitutional right for Americans to be assholes...its just too bad that so many take the opportunity...
    iscariot

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    I heard Brooks was testing both penny and tassel styles for the new fall collection
    Brandine: Now Cletus, if I catch you with pig lipstick on your collar one more time you ain't gonna be allowed to sleep in the barn no more!
    Cletus: Duly noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds! View Post
    along with schlepping water up hill, dumping it, and running down to get ready for ski season.
    Forget the water, just do more down. Steeper and techier the better

    Quote Originally Posted by OldLarry View Post
    Was looking for anything ~4:00 and ran a 3:58. Happy w it- has been a great weekend with the fam and all, too.
    Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Apparently I was quick on the way down.
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    I was half convinced this was caused by a timing/recording error on Stava's part. So, I ran it again yesterday and decided to really give'er--19:45! Hurting a bit today, but that time gives me the segment CR by 2.5 minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Forget the water, just do more down. Steeper and techier the better
    I do that pretty much year round, although I did run more rolling terrain the last month to get ready for a 50k with only 2500' of vert.

    I'm convinced hauling the weight helps me get ready for skinning/booting/skiing with a pack. I think a lot of the benefit is just getting used to the feeling of encumbrance and maintaining an efficient stance, but their probably is some physical benefit as well, especially if you use a heavy pack at times. But running downhill with extra weight is pretty stupid, hence the dumped water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    I was half convinced this was caused by a timing/recording error on Stava's part. So, I ran it again yesterday and decided to really give'er--19:45! Hurting a bit today, but that time gives me the segment CR by 2.5 minutes
    That is impressive.

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    Ah, yeah, if we're talking touring vs. resort skiing hauling weight up is going to have some benefits for sure.

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    I am going to register for my first 55k. Just texted a friend to see if she wants to do it with me - her response, "OMG yes. It might be the worst idea ever but I'm so in!"

    At least I have plenty of time to train, it's not until July!

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    Which race?
    Daniel Ortega eats here.

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    The Beaverhead, up on the Divide. If anything, the views will be great!

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    Good luck!

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