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  1. #626
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1000-oaks View Post
    OG STH16 with GW? No.
    like.. "official" no, I know.
    but practical use...?

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    Just updating this thread with the info that sth2 brake arms (not the whole brake housing, just the arms) are compatible with 9xx and vice versa. Carry on.


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    Sally 997/977/916/920/900s/912/914 etc thread, all u ever wanted to know

    Moving a heel forward on sth2 and writing is worn
    Is this in the suggested range?
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    Quote Originally Posted by otto parts View Post
    Moving a heel forward on sth2 and writing is worn
    Is this in the suggested range?
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    I'd say that's bordering to too far forward. See the black marks on either side of the screw track? They're the forward limit. Also, with current settings the adjustment screw head is yet not flush with the housing so it will need an additional click or two forward to get there...

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    ^ Agreed. Need to add about 3mm to your BSL, eh? JB Weld.

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    forget that! I can jb the track to the binder bro.
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    Sally binding experts: is there any quick fix for an STH14 heel piece worm screw that doesn’t seem to move the heel piece at all? I’ve got a slightly shorter BSL this year and I can’t make my STH14 heel piece move on my beloved old 185cm Rossi Scimitars.

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    Anyone have any input on whether or not driver style (flat AFD) toe baseplates are swappable with spheric style (weird dual AFD)? All of my 916s have spheric toe AFDs and they kinda suck. They're all missing the white AFD parts and they're generally are kinda sloppy. Obviously I'd need to keep the metal pedestal. I think they're compatible, so also looking to source some flat AFD Driver toe baseplates if anyone's holding. Have six pairs I'd like to potentially replace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beaterdit View Post
    Anyone have any input on whether or not driver style (flat AFD) toe baseplates are swappable with spheric style (weird dual AFD)? All of my 916s have spheric toe AFDs and they kinda suck. They're all missing the white AFD parts and they're generally are kinda sloppy. Obviously I'd need to keep the metal pedestal. I think they're compatible, so also looking to source some flat AFD Driver toe baseplates if anyone's holding. Have six pairs I'd like to potentially replace.
    Yes, you can mix & match 916 main toe with ANY of the following toe base plates:
    - "old driver" is what I call the flat white strip that is not as wide as the new driver AFDs, and with the old ones you have the option to include or exclude the shock absorbing rubbery shim under the whole toe. Plus there is a variation of the shim that is more rigid than the rubbery ones.
    - "spheric" is what I call the ones with 2 triangle pads, and it rocks side-to-side a bit by hand when no boot inserted.
    - "new driver" is what I call the extra-wide flat white strip ones. (***BUT it's possible to order the wrong part, which can look the same, but is intended for a DIN=14 version of the toe---still you can just make that part fit well enough with a 916.)

    "spheric" ones seem like theoretically less transmission, but honestly I can't detect any dissatisfaction/slop even on stiff flex=3 carbon Lotus138 underfoot edging on firm snow. Still, I'm superstitious about it, and believe the extra-wide "new driver" AFD's are somehow theoretically a tiny bit better for skis wider than say >122mm underfoot... But really that possible difference is no big difference at all---the bigger decision is whether to include or exclude the shock absorbing rubbery toe shim whenever I mount an "old driver" AFD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGamms View Post
    Sally binding experts: is there any quick fix for an STH14 heel piece worm screw that doesn’t seem to move the heel piece at all? I’ve got a slightly shorter BSL this year and I can’t make my STH14 heel piece move on my beloved old 185cm Rossi Scimitars.
    If the heel cannot be adjusted AT ALL, like it will neither move fore nor aft,---then that heel sounds very sketchy to me.

    On the other hand, if it moves fore and aft just fine whenever you get it into its middle position, then that means you are successfully moving it fore to its maximally fore position, where it stops (by design). If that's the case, I have heard of people "cheating" by filing off the "stopper" part at the end of the screw, which allows these people to override the stopping point and position the heel more fore than designed. My guess is that 2-3mm of cheating might still be safe enough, but not sure how far is unsafely far. To be safe, you'd have to evaluate the safety of the new not-as-designed position of the heel and the forces & contact points of the heel within the track.

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    I've squeezed a bit more forward STH(1) heel adjustment by grinding off the flare on the front of the adjustment screw with a Dremel.
    Last edited by 1000-oaks; 11-22-2019 at 07:47 PM.

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    Are the STH 14 and FFG 14 binders compadible with grip walk soles?

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    Not officially, but no doubt people have done it. You'd have to adjust the toe height yourself, a shop wouldn't do it. Start with toe high and lower to boot lug.

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    Something a bit weird happened last season with my STH2, I was skiing and the brakes released while the boot was still inside the binding. So the brakes were disengaged and rubbing against the snow. I don't really understand how physically it's possible but it happened. My boots were full of snow when I clicked in before it happened though, so maybe it's that ?
    When it happened I just clicked again and no problem, but it happened again the next day, same context, boots full of sticky spring snow when I clicked in.
    Has anyone experienced that already ? I'm trying to figure ou if it's the snow or if the binding (or brake) is faulty.
    I tried to reproduce the problem but no success.

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    Sally 997/977/916/920/900s/912/914 etc thread, all u ever wanted to know

    Is the brake screw loose.....something similar was happening to my buddies Sollies....it was just a matter of tightening the single brake screw at the heel. maybe???

    *Disregard....Sorry, Iím an idiot. He wasnít on STH2 bindings...must of been some other crap Salomon like a Z12 or something.
    Last edited by BC.; 12-08-2019 at 01:42 PM.

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    I'll check next weekend ! Thanks !

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuntmanbo View Post
    I'll check next weekend ! Thanks !
    No such screw exists in the STH2 design. Instead, the brake slides onto the heel track.

    My guess is your layer of caked snow resulted in your boot being in a super-high position, and then your brake deployed when the snow layer thickness somehow decreased where the brake depressor thingy is positioned, without the snow layer thickness decreasing aft of that brake depressor thingy. Solution for that would be: Don't ski with a thick layer of caked snow on your boot.

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    Sally 997/977/916/920/900s/912/914 etc thread, all u ever wanted to know

    Quote Originally Posted by Vitamin I View Post
    No such screw exists in the STH2 design. Instead, the brake slides onto the heel track.

    My guess is your layer of caked snow resulted in your boot being in a super-high position, and then your brake deployed when the snow layer thickness somehow decreased where the brake depressor thingy is positioned, without the snow layer thickness decreasing aft of that brake depressor thingy. Solution for that would be: Don't ski with a thick layer of caked snow on your boot.

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    Heís right...sorry...no screw on the STH2...itís a slider/popper inner. Iím obviously jonging my Salomon knowledge. Iím slipping...better take my Solly tech cert again....lol

    *Edited my response above to show Iím an idiot...

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    Sally 997/977/916/920/900s/912/914 etc thread, all u ever wanted to know

    STH2 experts...mounting up a pair. Two questions.

    First one is a JONGer...but with boot engaged we are looking for tension indicator knobby thing to be flush vs itís housing, yeah? (Like in pic 2 below. Not recessed or protruding like pic 1 & 3)

    Second, below is mockup for a 306 BSL with 306 template. Boot centerline marking looks pretty nuts vs. mock ski center so I think itís good...but howís the binding heel position on the heel track look? I donít have a frame of reference here.

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    **EDIT: never mind, found the info in the Salomon tech manual. Leaving in case it helps another.

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