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01-24-2007, 05:49 PM #26
Kirkwood gets a B from me, after skiing there today.
The snow has softened up in the sun, some corn, some carveable chalky stuff and even some soft stuff. And, it was a weekday so it was empty.
Never ceases to amaze me, how few days of warm weather it takes for California to go from bullet proof to corn.
The only problem is that the sun is melting the snow (what little has fallen and what little is left after being scoured by the Evil E) rather quickly. All of sudden, getting around is difficult as the traverses are littered with chips, and some fun lines have lots of small rocks poking through.
Doesn't surprise me at all about the F grade. I heard Cohee talking to a hippy at the bottom of chair 6 about the environment, Cohee's response....."Fuck the environment!". (just kidding Tim, don't take my pass).
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01-24-2007, 05:51 PM #27
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01-24-2007, 05:59 PM #28
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01-24-2007, 06:09 PM #29
Last edited by runethechamp; 01-24-2007 at 06:11 PM.
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.
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01-24-2007, 07:00 PM #30
I'm not actually sure. I was just talking with some of the DFG and National Marine Fisheries folks who were commenting on large sedimentation problems coming out of Kirkwood caused by uncovered dirt piles in their parking lots in the spring. They currently have legal proceedings against KW that are on hold pending the effects of spring runoff.
"if the city is visibly one of humankind's greatest achievements, its uncontrolled evolution also can lead to desecration of both nature and the human spirit."
-- Melvin G. Marcus 1979
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01-24-2007, 07:23 PM #31
The point of wilderness is that it doesn't have buildings of any sort in it, "aesthetically pleasing" or not.
Also remember that Kirkwood is not on private land: it's Forest Service land, which means it's *our* land that we, the people, *rent* to them. They don't get to just throw up anything they want.
I've said it before: the Kirkwood development has been the most incompetent, destructive, skier- and owner-hostile disaster I've ever seen. All that mud you're hiking through to get anywhere because they couldn't be bothered to plan an actual base village instead of just throwing random buildings in random places? That flows into the meadow and the stream, which is one reason they get an F.
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01-24-2007, 10:30 PM #32Registered User
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01-24-2007, 10:36 PM #33
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01-24-2007, 10:56 PM #34
I can see reno from mt rose wilderness.
How's that for aesthetics?
Seriously though..........the building is not IN the wilderness. Just because you're in a wilderness area doesn't mean the things not allowed in them can't or shouldn't be seen. Climb one of the cascade peaks and see what you see. There are hundreds of dams we visit from our office in wilderness areas, most of them with an operator's structure of some sort built after the wilderness designation..........not to mention the many backpacking/ski touring huts out there. Not the same scale but still......Besides the comet that killed the dinosaurs nothing has destroyed a species faster than entitled white people.-ajp
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01-25-2007, 10:02 AM #35"if the city is visibly one of humankind's greatest achievements, its uncontrolled evolution also can lead to desecration of both nature and the human spirit."
-- Melvin G. Marcus 1979
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01-25-2007, 10:17 AM #36
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01-25-2007, 10:37 AM #37
Caples Crest is a relatively low lying ridge compared to the surrounding terrain. It is well isolated from the Emigrant Lake area which is the closest terrain within the Wilderness area. The ridge is visible from the wilderness only along the ridge from Round-Top and extending to the above Emigrant L. near the California Chutes. Still, I doubt the environmentalists will allow any ridge line development to proceed unchallenged. In fact, pretty much any development, roadway improvement, trail, grazing, is difficult to permit in this area, even when on private property. Kirkwood could never have been built today, and there are plenty of nuts out there who would prefer it to be bulldozed and restored to natural ground. Considering that an average ski weekend can bring more ten times more skiers to Kirkwood than the entire population of Alpine County, Kirkwood gets a lot of attention.
EDIT: There is a $22 Million proposal back in the works to bring power under the road from the West. Basically the same thing done by "Volcano" when phone lines were brought in.Last edited by Cirquerider; 01-25-2007 at 12:57 PM.
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01-25-2007, 11:32 AM #38
Anyone who's been around for a long time can see the problems inherent in Kirkwood, CA.
I'm an environmentalist but there is some messed up sh*t going on there and they need to get their heads out of their azzes. The NYT getting on this is only more slime on the cesspool.
The chair lifts stop 15x a day from power outages from their prehistoric diesel fuel generators. Sometimes it's a 1/2 minute, sometimes longer. I get this from some former workers at the plant (which you can go see for yourself if you want to see firsthand how Kirkwood gets their power).
The terrain kicks azz though. The scene is a very tight one, although I've noticed more and more "tourons" (tourist + moron).
The fire photo is a stark reminder.
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