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    Talking

    "Now we've got Wars on Terror and Axes of Evil we can pretty much toss that out of the window, Mr President."


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    Quote Originally Posted by bad_roo View Post
    "Now we've got Wars on Terror and Axes of Evil we can pretty much toss that out of the window, Mr President."

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    It's been over two years, by the CIA's own admission this past Friday, since they have had any idea where OBL is. So let's talk about failure, shall we?
    No, lets try to stay on subject, for once, if its possible. Thank You.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    No, lets try to stay on subject, for once, if its possible. Thank You.


    And the subject is: Bill Clintown pwns Fox News.

    That's not an opinion. Look at the top of the page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripzalot View Post
    actually, he pwned himself.



    Among other things. Clinton gets the full fact checking here:
    http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/2...ox-news-sunday
    Ripz,

    Please clarify this so-called "fact checking" by the hotair blog. It's rather cryptic. Seems to me it's mostly specious nitpicking, but perhaps I'm just ideologically blinded.

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    Staging a fight with Clinton on Fox News also keeps this rather more important item further down the headlines.

    US report says Iraq fuels terror - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5375064.stm
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Staging a fight with Clinton on Fox News also keeps this rather more important item further down the headlines.

    US report says Iraq fuels terror - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5375064.stm
    You mean the Iraq war has not made us safer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    You mean the Iraq war has not made us safer?
    Who'd a thunk it?
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    As Yoda said, "Do or not do, there is not "Try"".

    I've known since I was old enough to care that the govornment is run by a bunch of fuckups. The higher you go, the more this is true. Clinton failed during his 8 years to take care of Bin Laden just like Bush has failed during his time in office. Clinton could have begged the question off and gotten back on point but he obviously is bent out of shape that anyone would place the blame on him and wanted to make an issue out if it. Clinton said it himself though, he failed.

    Next question please Mr. Wallace.

    (see how easy that was?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Staging a fight with Clinton on Fox News also keeps this rather more important item further down the headlines.

    US report says Iraq fuels terror - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5375064.stm
    In other news: sky blue, ice cold, fire hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    You mean the Iraq war has not made us safer?
    Incredible but true.

    Perhaps if we'd attacked some other random country.......
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    At least Clinton has a single 'failure' to discuss...this current clown has an entire presidency, and legacy, of dismal failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Incredible but true.

    Perhaps if we'd attacked some other random country.......
    The French rarely put up a great deal of resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boarddad View Post
    As Yoda said, "Do or not do, there is not "Try"".

    I've known since I was old enough to care that the govornment is run by a bunch of fuckups. The higher you go, the more this is true. Clinton failed during his 8 years to take care of Bin Laden just like Bush has failed during his time in office. Clinton could have begged the question off and gotten back on point but he obviously is bent out of shape that anyone would place the blame on him and wanted to make an issue out if it. Clinton said it himself though, he failed.

    Next question please Mr. Wallace.

    (see how easy that was?)
    Well, see - it's easy to say in retrospect that we shoulda canned OBM way back when, before 9/11. But really, could the US have gotten the go-ahead to invade a sovereign nation (run by crazies, true, but nonetheless sovereign) on the strength of the USS Cole, the embassy attacks and OBM's declaration of war?

    No fucking way.

    As it was, Clinton got shit for "wagging the dog" for the missle attack from a right wing obsesed with where he'd put his cigar. Plus it wasn't even very easy to get the overflight permissions from Pakistan to send the missles in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    You mean the Iraq war has not made us safer?
    Safer yes safe no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckerman View Post
    Safer yes safe no.
    How so?......
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    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckerman View Post
    Safer yes safe no.
    That has quite boggled my mind that you should believe that. I am truly astonished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckerman View Post
    Safer yes safe no.
    You are out of your mind.

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    I no longer have to live in fear of Saddam Hussein's secret police coming to get me in the middle of the night. Seriously, that used to be a big concern of mine.
    And the Iraqi people--they've never had it so good.
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    You know what they say - roadside bombings are the spice of life

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    Do you realize that you've just posted an admission of ignorance so breathtaking that it disqualifies you from commenting on any political or economic threads from here on out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad_roo View Post
    That has quite boggled my mind that you should believe that. I am truly astonished.
    Half of U.S. Still Believes Iraq Had WMD

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Staging a fight with Clinton on Fox News also keeps this rather more important item further down the headlines.

    US report says Iraq fuels terror - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5375064.stm

    you're quoting an article from the BBC, that references a NYT article that is taking leaked inteligence out of context?

    regarding Bill Clinton's performance. He's a little defensive, no? The questions seemed to be pretty innocuous. Brown's questions to him were less confrontational that what he'd asked Rummy. This is pretty far from an attack on Clinton. additionally, who were all the VRWC members that supposedly attacked clinton for trying to go after bin Laden? Both Gingrich and Lott are quoted numerous times supporting the attack in response to the Embassy bombings. The only one I can find calling for conspiracy is Arlen "Magic Bullet" Specter.
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    Who cued the smoke machine? Back to Iraq already? For a moment, I thought we could actually put a good Clinton thread together.

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    Dude maybe you should have your own forum and you could be in charge of what everyone talks about.

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    Anyone who has read Richard Clarke's book will probably recognise the irony that it traces the rise of global terror to the Reagan administration's failure to retaliate against the 1982 Beirut bombings, fuelling the perception around the world that the United States was vulnerable to such attacks.

    Fast forward a quarter of a century and the nature of asymmetrical warfare has demonstrated that willingness to engage, in Afghanistan and Iraq for example, is now the clearest way the US could have flagged its vulnerability. The legacy of armed forces procurement policy that remains rooted in the Cold War is but one example of how ill-equipped Western nations are to deal with this threat.

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