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  1. #1976
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    except it leaks bar oil like a sieve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phall View Post
    except it leaks bar oil like a sieve.
    I was gona add "Except for the leaking chain oiler " even a premium saw will leak

    my Sthil came with a spare chain/ hat/ plastic case and those cases are great for transporting the saw in a vehical or wherever, my 261 is sitting in a spare bedroom kinda mostly sealed
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    Well, six years with the Milwaukee and this came up. Truly a piss poor design imo, but apparently I was over torquing the bar, so maybe on me a little. I guess I prefer chainsaw bolts to be tight
    It's only this plastic cover that will hold the bolts in now, so I think she's toast. Was thinking of a Jerry fix, but not worth it.

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    ^ wow. doesn't seem like it should reasonably possible to over-torque. i'm sure not using a torque wrench on my bars
    what did milwaukee say, maybe will do something for ya - pro form or discount code or something?

    you're right - not worth it to jerry rig.
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    somewhere in the last 80 threads i made the statement " buy right and you only buy once "

    edit: if those 2 bolts were welded to the same anchor plate that would not have happened, bad design and good reason to spend the $$$ on a better saw
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleOfNight View Post
    ^ wow. doesn't seem like it should reasonably possible to over-torque. i'm sure not using a torque wrench on my bars
    what did milwaukee say, maybe will do something for ya - pro form or discount code or something?

    you're right - not worth it to jerry rig.
    This was 1st gen and I'm hearing it's been fixed with a piece of metal in there somewhere. Speaking with my arborist friend same issue happened with some Stihl models also. Apparently there are torque specs for bars, but yeah who the hell would do that... especially in the field.

    I am going to reach out to the Milwaukee Rep. They have a lot of wiggle room to make things good whether it be batteries or something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    This was 1st gen and I'm hearing it's been fixed with a piece of metal in there somewhere. Speaking with my arborist friend same issue happened with some Stihl models also. Apparently there are torque specs for bars, but yeah who the hell would do that... especially in the field.

    I am going to reach out to the Milwaukee Rep. They have a lot of wiggle room to make things good whether it be batteries or something else.
    Call that 1800sawdust. I bet they take care of you. They really don’t give a shit about the warranty stuff, they want happy customers. I’ve had great luck with them. Grinders, skill saw, drill, impact, all beat to shit and replaced. Grease gun I had to pay the max fee to get it fixed and it was like $100. Worth it.


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    Interesting oak hazard tree. Took a while to come up with a plan on this one

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    Yikes, not a lot of wood holding that

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    Is "run like hell when she starts to go" really a plan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco View Post
    Is "run like hell when she starts to go" really a plan?
    Ha! Oftentimes, yes

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    Still shot from the video I took today dropping a huge widow maker.

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    I'm looking for a battery saw to cut lots of firewood. Power, battery life and short charge time are my main criteria, as well as being modular so I can eventually get a mower or other tools. After some reading of this thread and other research, these are on the list:
    -Greenworks GS181
    -Ego Power+ CS 1800
    -Ego Power+ CS 2005
    -Greenworks Pro 8V
    -Echo DCS 5000
    What else should I be looking at?
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    ^ I’m in the Milwaukee system (drills, string trimmer, various etc.) and I’ve got their pole saw. I haven’t used their regular chain saw, but based on the performance of the pole saw and the other Milwaukee tools I have and the variety they have available I’d look at their 20” saw.
    https://www.milwaukeetool.com/products/2827-22

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    there are all kinds of compro's on-line for gas vs electric chainsaws and i think they will all say if you want to cut a LOT of fire wood go gas

    so pro gas industrial grade saw hopfully from your good local dealer

    locally my sthil dealer is a real saw shop so they are awesume, but my surviving husky dealer sucks so i'm into Sthil but i could have gone either way before the good Huskey dealer shut down

    there was one compro i think from that wranglestar dude where he said this electric saw doesn't cut much, vibrates and chatters while this gas sthil cuts smoothly so I would look at > battery life
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    Quote Originally Posted by natebob View Post
    I'm looking for a battery saw to cut lots of firewood. Power, battery life and short charge time are my main criteria, as well as being modular so I can eventually get a mower or other tools. After some reading of this thread and other research, these are on the list:
    -Greenworks GS181
    -Ego Power+ CS 1800
    -Ego Power+ CS 2005
    -Greenworks Pro 8V
    -Echo DCS 5000
    What else should I be looking at?
    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper View Post
    ^ I’m in the Milwaukee system (drills, string trimmer, various etc.) and I’ve got their pole saw. I haven’t used their regular chain saw, but based on the performance of the pole saw and the other Milwaukee tools I have and the variety they have available I’d look at their 20” saw.
    https://www.milwaukeetool.com/products/2827-22
    I have the 16" Milwaukee, and I like it a lot. It's nice to not need ear protection, and it's handy for normal small saw type tasks. I use it for trail work pretty often.

    That said, I would never take it to cut firewood or to cut any decent sized trees. The battery (12ah) is maybe the equivalent of half a tank of gas in my 455, and a truckload of firewood usually takes me about 2.5 tanks. And despite whatever stats Milwaukee will invent about torque and cutting speed, the gas saw cuts significantly faster. Cutting up a truck's worth of firewood would require like $1000 worth of batteries and would take at least 50% longer than with the gas saw. I'm sure the 20" Milwaukee with its dual batteries lasts a bit longer and cuts a bit faster, but I'm still entirely skeptical that it'll keep up with a run of the mill gas saw when doing a lot of cutting. Also worth noting that the milwaukee is almost 20 lbs, which is quite a bit heavier than pretty much any gas saw.

    From a quick look at the Egos and Echos on that list, they all look to be less capable than the Milwaukees. Less power, significantly smaller batteries, etc. If you're looking to make a few cuts here and there on mostly small trees, they'll probably work fine. But if you're looking to cut a few cords of wood in a somewhat efficient fashion, just get a gas saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    I have the 16" Milwaukee, and I like it a lot. It's nice to not need ear protection, and it's handy for normal small saw type tasks. I use it for trail work pretty often.

    That said, I would never take it to cut firewood or to cut any decent sized trees. The battery (12ah) is maybe the equivalent of half a tank of gas in my 455, and a truckload of firewood usually takes me about 2.5 tanks. And despite whatever stats Milwaukee will invent about torque and cutting speed, the gas saw cuts significantly faster. Cutting up a truck's worth of firewood would require like $1000 worth of batteries and would take at least 50% longer than with the gas saw. I'm sure the 20" Milwaukee with its dual batteries lasts a bit longer and cuts a bit faster, but I'm still entirely skeptical that it'll keep up with a run of the mill gas saw when doing a lot of cutting. Also worth noting that the milwaukee is almost 20 lbs, which is quite a bit heavier than pretty much any gas saw.

    From a quick look at the Egos and Echos on that list, they all look to be less capable than the Milwaukees. Less power, significantly smaller batteries, etc. If you're looking to make a few cuts here and there on mostly small trees, they'll probably work fine. But if you're looking to cut a few cords of wood in a somewhat efficient fashion, just get a gas saw.
    I haven’t used a full-sized battery saw, but I’d say you have some great points there. My regular saw is a nice Husky 55 that suits my firewood needs fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    I have the 16" Milwaukee, and I like it a lot. It's nice to not need ear protection, and it's handy for normal small saw type tasks. I use it for trail work pretty often.

    That said, I would never take it to cut firewood or to cut any decent sized trees. The battery (12ah) is maybe the equivalent of half a tank of gas in my 455, and a truckload of firewood usually takes me about 2.5 tanks. And despite whatever stats Milwaukee will invent about torque and cutting speed, the gas saw cuts significantly faster. Cutting up a truck's worth of firewood would require like $1000 worth of batteries and would take at least 50% longer than with the gas saw. I'm sure the 20" Milwaukee with its dual batteries lasts a bit longer and cuts a bit faster, but I'm still entirely skeptical that it'll keep up with a run of the mill gas saw when doing a lot of cutting.
    Have a lot of time on my Milwaukee 16" and a lot more time on various Stihl saws. Agree with all of this, the battery power saws are not good at bucking firewood rounds at all.

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    so what IS the point of the battery saws, a small 1 acre lot ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    so what IS the point of the battery saws, a small 1 acre lot ?
    Stealth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    so what IS the point of the battery saws, a small 1 acre lot ?
    I basically never use my small gas saw anymore - the electric has fully replaced it.

    Either I'm doing something that doesn't require a ton of cutting (trail work, trail maintenance, small backyard tasks), in which case I'm using the small electric, or I'm cutting firewood (or maybe cutting a large tree off a trail) in which case I use the bigger gas saw. It's a good 2 saw quiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    I basically never use my small gas saw anymore - the electric has fully replaced it.

    Either I'm doing something that doesn't require a ton of cutting (trail work, trail maintenance, small backyard tasks), in which case I'm using the small electric, or I'm cutting firewood (or maybe cutting a large tree off a trail) in which case I use the bigger gas saw. It's a good 2 saw quiver.

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    well what are you cutting, are you cutting a ski run or line cutting, or running a saw for 6 hrs or wanking about on your small property ?

    I was just drinking beer with jake the line cutting surveyor who still has 35km of line to cut, so they run a 362 maybe get 3 tanks and call er a days
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    I have the 16" Milwaukee, and I like it a lot. It's nice to not need ear protection, and it's handy for normal small saw type tasks. I use it for trail work pretty often.

    That said, I would never take it to cut firewood or to cut any decent sized trees. The battery (12ah) is maybe the equivalent of half a tank of gas in my 455, and a truckload of firewood usually takes me about 2.5 tanks. And despite whatever stats Milwaukee will invent about torque and cutting speed, the gas saw cuts significantly faster. Cutting up a truck's worth of firewood would require like $1000 worth of batteries and would take at least 50% longer than with the gas saw. I'm sure the 20" Milwaukee with its dual batteries lasts a bit longer and cuts a bit faster, but I'm still entirely skeptical that it'll keep up with a run of the mill gas saw when doing a lot of cutting. Also worth noting that the milwaukee is almost 20 lbs, which is quite a bit heavier than pretty much any gas saw.

    From a quick look at the Egos and Echos on that list, they all look to be less capable than the Milwaukees. Less power, significantly smaller batteries, etc. If you're looking to make a few cuts here and there on mostly small trees, they'll probably work fine. But if you're looking to cut a few cords of wood in a somewhat efficient fashion, just get a gas saw.
    This is good for me to hear. Not necessarily what I want to hear, but kinda what I suspected. Some reviews out there, and certainly the marketing hype make it sound like prosumer level battery saws and cut a trucks worth of wood, but sounds like that's not really the case in real life. Since bucking cords of woods is mostly what I want, I'll probably just get a gasser.
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    Yeah for firewood cutting I'd go gas every time. I love my dual 18v Makita saw for homeowner and light trail clearing use, though. I cut through a 24" downed tree on 2 sets of batteries once. (2 full cuts to remove a section.)
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