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01-20-2022, 07:14 PM #1676Registered User
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Might be a more productive idea to look at the business practices of companies in the present day. Let's start with labour practices and contributions to climate change of the very companies that any of us on the pension train are highly likely / almost certainly invested in.
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01-20-2022, 08:08 PM #1677
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01-21-2022, 05:56 AM #1678
I must be in the wrong thread, I was looking for the Chainsaw Thread to post a pic of the saw I added to my quiver yesterday. Looks like I stumbled into the Genocide Thread by accident. Maybe I will post my chainsaw pics somewhere else ?
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01-21-2022, 07:46 AM #1679
I’m confused, #6 did you mean rakers?
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01-21-2022, 07:47 AM #1680
My ongoing series of historical awareness of genocide is no longer being offered in this space, so let’s see your chainsaw.
Harry, what did you get and for what purpose? New or used? Already broke in? Any upcoming mods? Let’s see the pics and they better be dirty."Let's be careful out there."
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01-21-2022, 07:51 AM #1681
I meant “riders.” Thanks for catching that typo. So, yes I meant “rakers” Riders=rakers and they are often ignores in the sharpening process by new operators.
http://www.madsens1.com/bnc_depth_gauge.htm"Let's be careful out there."
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01-21-2022, 05:08 PM #1682
Newbish question in regards to a wedge cut to control where a large leaning branch falls:
Wow my crappy pic might actually be oriented correctly!!
So I've got a large willow tree that I've been slowly taking down this winter, most cuts are pretty easy but there's one very large heavy branch that leans directly towards the house. The amazingly artistic illustration sort of shows what I'm talking about.
I have a basic understanding of making a wedge cut and felling limbs in a chosen direction. This limb however has me a bit worried.
If I want it to fall roughly along path A, would I need to put a bias on the wedge pointing more towards the fence? (I'd rather fix a fence than siding and windows lol)
and/or - instead of making the wedge cuts and felling cuts on a horizontal plane, can I angle these cuts a little so the hinge isn't perfectly horizontal, but rather the lower part of the hinge facing more towards the fence? (hope that makes sense)
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01-21-2022, 05:26 PM #1683Registered User
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01-21-2022, 05:34 PM #1684
You mean that illustration doesn't suffice lol? K hold on, pics in coming..
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01-21-2022, 05:38 PM #1685Registered User
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01-21-2022, 05:51 PM #1686
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01-21-2022, 05:58 PM #1687Registered User
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I'd call that a leader....
Put a LEVEL notch in direction "A", maybe a little more toward the fence. Put a rope on it as high as you can go above the cut and add some tension in that direction, as it does look tight in there and insurance can't hurt.
Too bad it's not larger, you could easily wedge it in the right direction.
Disclaimer: not my fault if you crush the fence, your wife's arbor or the neighbors toy poodle.
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01-21-2022, 06:09 PM #1688
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01-21-2022, 06:25 PM #1689Registered User
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Felling wedges.
You do your notch cut, start the felling cut, pound a wedge in and continue to cut. Give the wedge a couple whacks as you go and it lifts the tree to overcome lean.
Only works if there is enought tree for the notch, hing, bar and felling wedge. Your tree looks too small.
1st image I stole from the Google:
Sometimes I bore cut, pound the wedges in and then cut the trigger. IMHO things more of an advanced method.
I'm a hack, but have been burning firewood my whole life and have made some errors in felling that thankfully I was able to learn from. The sketchy ones work out, as I'm hyper attentive.
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01-21-2022, 06:53 PM #1690
This is the image I've been basing everything I've said so far on. But you're saying don't do that because it's too narrow.
Sorry to get so circular - how does the Level notch you recommend differ from the posted illustration?
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01-21-2022, 07:02 PM #1691Registered User
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It doesn't. If you are facing the notch it should be level left to right. Otherwise you can put twist into it, which in your case could be bad (from what I see).
EDIT: another stolen pic:
Not the notch is level
I don't think that tree is big enough to face cut, back cut, wedge and fell. But I'm not in front of it. The rope acts the same as the felling wedges, it just serves to pull things the right direction.
For frame of reference, last winter I took down a birch and hickory that were twisted up along my power line. Too small for the wedges, but some tension with the rope as I cut (tension, cut, repeat) pulled a heavy leaner away from catastrophe.
Tomorrow when it is light out I'll try for a pic of a 12"+ oak leader I need to drop this winter. The natural fall puts it close to a propane tank, so I will add a wedge to nudge it in the safe direction.
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01-21-2022, 07:17 PM #1692
Understood, thank you very much for taking the time to explain this to me. tension, cut, repeat..
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01-21-2022, 08:06 PM #1693
The chainsaw thread...
Tension, cut, repeat, etc.: make sure it’s not going to land on you when tensioning it or if you need to give the rope a final tug to pull the leader down. Also, don’t bounce the rope, better to give it a steady tug.
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01-21-2022, 08:13 PM #1694
I couldn’t just drop this leader with a notch/hinge because it would have landed on my deck and roof. I rigged a cord into a notch, then through another notch on another leader, and a bunch of wraps around that pine. I did a “salami” style cut with a bore cut leaving strap holding wood on top and bottom. It all got a bit complicated when my chain got pinched in the bore cut and I had to use my bigger saw (that needs a carb adjustment) to finish the job. The rigging worked great!
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01-23-2022, 11:56 AM #1695
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01-23-2022, 01:49 PM #1696
Big ones down! This is kinda fun. Thanks again for the pointers. Fence and windows are still intact. Raspberries, along the back fence - well they good a mid winter prune.
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01-25-2022, 01:31 PM #1697Registered User
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01-25-2022, 01:33 PM #1698Registered User
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Excellent. I've hung many a storm leaner, and angle/salami cut the base.... some as large as 100' plus. I then repeat the process, cutting sections off the butt, until the top can be laid out. Often, the process takes hours, at least two groundies running the lines. A $2800 lowering device, maybe another bollard device for friction, and as many as three ropes, and 1-2 rigging blocks....no trunk wraps, of course. My main line (250' -- cost over $900--yikes!) for tip tying big stuff is rated at 31000 lb tensile at 9/16th... it has a HMWPE spectra (plasma, by PS Ropes) core..zero stretch so not to be shock loaded. Any dynamic loads, we then use lines up to 3/4" rated at ~22k lb.
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01-25-2022, 02:55 PM #1699
The cord that you previously recommended worked great. i also bought a weight and throwline, which has gotten a bunch of use.
trunk wrap.... i wasn't aware that was passe. it worked well for me and it's what i learned to do. i have seen friction devices used but have no experience.
i rigged the tiptie in the notch on the leader in the autumn and let the kids use it as a swing for a week or three. i finished the rigging before winter weather arrived in case the leader failed. That could have been a good decision as my area (Sierra foothills) had some severe tree failures in the big winter storm on Dec 26 (it's still a mess out there).
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03-05-2022, 07:57 PM #1700
Have a laugh on me, folks.
Been slowly hacking away at that willow and needed a new chain. 50 CAD for the recommended model. Installed today. 3 inches into it's first cut and I find there's rebar or something metal imbedded in the stump. The first few inches were glorious - new chain feel I guess. Seconds later, it's crap.
Guess I'll learn how to use the files. Seems so tedious but it sucks buying (and instantly destroying) 50 dollar chains.
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