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  1. #1176
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    A friend uses an AK mill on his little ranch with an ms390. Pretty sure he only uses it on softwoods.

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    This might be the place to ask, given the recent discussion. I have a large yellow birch hung up on a maple. The birch is badly rotten for 10 feet or more, but still attached to the stump. Too dangerous to cut the birch or the maple. I have been waiting 3 years for the wind to take it down, but has not happened yet. Thinking about blasting it with some black powder on a rainy day with friends on hand. Never done something like that. Any thoughts?

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    Tannerite is what you seek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cat in january View Post
    This might be the place to ask, given the recent discussion. I have a large yellow birch hung up on a maple. The birch is badly rotten for 10 feet or more, but still attached to the stump. Too dangerous to cut the birch or the maple. I have been waiting 3 years for the wind to take it down, but has not happened yet. Thinking about blasting it with some black powder on a rainy day with friends on hand. Never done something like that. Any thoughts?
    Just hire a pro? Won't cost much to just drop them. You can do the clean up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cat in january View Post
    This might be the place to ask, given the recent discussion. I have a large yellow birch hung up on a maple. The birch is badly rotten for 10 feet or more, but still attached to the stump. Too dangerous to cut the birch or the maple. I have been waiting 3 years for the wind to take it down, but has not happened yet. Thinking about blasting it with some black powder on a rainy day with friends on hand. Never done something like that. Any thoughts?
    What's the plan once you blow it off the stump?

    If it is really rotten maybe just cripple cut it and winch the whole thing out with a come along?

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    Up in the woods on a ski glade. Couple guys I cut with are a lot better than me with a saw and won’t touch it. Have thought about try to get off with come along but lot of weight. It’s a big tree. If we break it free from the stump and still hung up should be able take down in pieces. Appreciate thoughts
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    I did that. Welded myself an Alaska mill to plank out logs for wood features on trails.

    It works, but I concluded that my saw just isn't big / strong enough to efficiently rip logs. It just takes too long. Went back to buying / hauling planks.
    did you mill the wood on the site where you were going to use it, what was the logistics like getting the gear and fuel out there if thats what you did or is a mill better used at home ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    did you mill the wood on the site where you were going to use it, what was the logistics like getting the gear and fuel out there if thats what you did or is a mill better used at home ?
    The other solution is to fall something heavy into the birch and knock it out of the maple.

    Or fall the maple along with the birch as a pair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    did you mill the wood on the site where you were going to use it, what was the logistics like getting the gear and fuel out there if thats what you did or is a mill better used at home ?
    I never got that far. I milled a few planks in easy to access locations as a test and concluded that hauling stuff in wasn't worth the effort.

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    how big of a saw ?

    one of the guys ( ex- faller type ) i was cutting runs with brought his bigger saw for a spare i assume that he had used in a mill it was a great big powerful husky with a super long bar

    I picked it up and it weighed a ton but he never used it cuz his 56cc 0290 was plenty to cut at treeline
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  11. #1186
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    I looked into a saw mill some years ago, and felt that it would only be useful for making cants. Too much kerf with a chainsaw, for efficiency it’s recommended at least a 90cc saw, and of course packing all that into a site make it a poor/costly endeavour. I’ve had success cutting short planks (~20”), cutting along the grain (bar parallel with the log) vs across the grain like a mill. Used these as decking for bridges and such. Makes cool long shavings too.

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    Another friend who’s been a pro tree guy for >30yrs used to use his biggest saws for ak milling. He’s told me that at some points he’s had dedicated saws for the task. He does not do it anymore. Lots of exhaust and dust.

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    a buddy had some big stems on her property ( not on the crown land behind ! ) so they processed it all with a portable bandsaw mill, used the timbers to build a nice post n beam house and eventualy she sold the mill when there was no more use for it

    Maybe if you got a lot of wood to mill don't fuck around just get a bandsaw mill ?
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    I've spent a fair amount of time with my mini mill and it takes a lot of time and is hard on bars. I was just trying to create one flat side or create a beam out of logs. It worked well and got a look that dimensional lumber just would not give. But I would never try to create dimensional lumber with one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougW View Post
    I've spent a fair amount of time with my mini mill and it takes a lot of time and is hard on bars. I was just trying to create one flat side or create a beam out of logs. It worked well and got a look that dimensional lumber just would not give. But I would never try to create dimensional lumber with one.
    That is about what I’m trying to do. Maybe some planks too. I got a bunch of softwood that has to come down / is down. And it’s on my property, where I want to make a little mtn track, so either I have to drag the logs up the hill with a tractor and get them chipped, or I could use them for features. I currently have a massive pile of rounds so I really don’t need more firewood.

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    good hangup resource?
    finishing a build and want to start clearing a view. thick with spruce and hemlock, a few birch thrown in. mostly same age trees. property steps down in tiers.
    i'm ok at dropping trees, the big ones freak me out a bit. small/medium ones are guaranteed to hang.

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    And I guess that I just don't know

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    Perfect, thanks. Been mostly reviewing BC tree felling videos. Those things are awesome. Extra info is bonus for a hack like me.

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    Cool. Just be careful and take your time. Hung up trees can be frustrating...and kind of potentially dangerous.
    And I guess that I just don't know

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    Quote Originally Posted by wendigo View Post
    Perfect, thanks. Been mostly reviewing BC tree felling videos. Those things are awesome. Extra info is bonus for a hack like me.
    yes, the BC vids are well done with clear concise engrish ... as opposed to listening to some cracker thanking god the tree didnt kill him
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    they freak me the fuck out. I typically use a come-along from far far away...

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    Speaking of BC felling vids-> I love me some Buckin’ Billy Ray Smith. Dude breaks down what he does and why.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsI...Oz99GMitW4vD_g

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    how big of a saw ?

    one of the guys ( ex- faller type ) i was cutting runs with brought his bigger saw for a spare i assume that he had used in a mill it was a great big powerful husky with a super long bar

    I picked it up and it weighed a ton but he never used it cuz his 56cc 0290 was plenty to cut at treeline
    Just a husky 455. Works fine for firewood and some trail work, but definitely not enough saw for milling.

    But even if I had a big saw that could run through a cut at, say, 3x the speed, it'd still be pretty tedious work. Setting up the mill takes a little bit for each cut, and ultimately, for the quality of plank that I needed for a trail feature (i.e. didn't need to be super flat or pretty) I could just freehand the cut without fucking around with the mill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    That is about what I’m trying to do. Maybe some planks too. I got a bunch of softwood that has to come down / is down. And it’s on my property, where I want to make a little mtn track, so either I have to drag the logs up the hill with a tractor and get them chipped, or I could use them for features. I currently have a massive pile of rounds so I really don’t need more firewood.
    Some picks from the two wood sheds i've built from wood on property. Not the posts as they are seconds from a pretty nearby utility pole manufacturer ( PT cedar) . Second pic with skid steer the back beam didn't come from property but was a blow down in a cut block. Wanted 3 flats with base to match post. One cut make a perfect back diagonal.
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