The chainsaw thread...

[~mikey b]

pay money to drop that little thing?


funny

[Hopeless Sinner]

You got a serious danger tree there. Deciduous are more prone to barber. Leaners definitely risk to barber. Also, it’s hung up in the fir tree too. If you got the money hire that one out.

Thank you.

[Hopeless Sinner]

pay money to drop that little thing?


funny

Actually the cost of removal of the stem and branches is where the expense lies. So the question is do I want to spend a day running a saw, picking up and humping the mess off to the dump AND contend w doing something that's makes me a little uncomfortable. Bottom line - if I need to pay for clean up and disposal may as well have them knock it over too.

I got golf to play and leg blasters to do!!!

[~mikey b]

well then you’ve answered your own questions

[neufox47]

Never cut many aspen or many deciduous trees, but got this one that's root wad is coming out of the ground as the tree tilts - it's 30 degrees more tilt than before the weekends rain. Is this going to barber chair? 55', 16" DBH


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16” dbh? That doesn’t look like a 16” diameter. You mean circumference?

[zion zig zag]

Walk out there in shorts and flip flops, lay the bar on the back of that sucker, do the safety squint and let ‘er eat.


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[BCMtnHound]

Hell, just put a sign on the tree calling it a Tarzan tree and a couple 12yo local orangutans will bring that tree down to earth in an hour, roots and all.

[Hopeless Sinner]

Hell, just put a sign on the tree calling it a Tarzan tree and a couple 12yo local orangutans will bring that tree down to earth in an hour, roots and all.

Multiple massive roots from the spruce cover up the aspen's root wad, so it may appear knocking it over could be a solution I'm sure I'd break something on my truck in the process.

Well it might be 15" dbh, it's been ~40 years since I last cruised timber.

[Hood26]

Steady old 395xp left me walking for the first time today. Cutting wood for the RORs charity group today. Ran a tank and half and shut her down for a break and no fire after. Weak and white spark, as well as not wanting to run after being hot, has me thinking a bad magneto. Already checked all the easy things. Tossed in a new plug. Checked the famously crap shut off switch. I will take it to the shop and see what they say, but the mounts are going out too. It’s first 5 years were commercial falling, so it isn’t a spring chicken now that is over 10 years old.

I have been scouting new Huskies. The 395 and 390 are finished and what’s on the shelf are all that are left. Another 395 is appealing to use my old saw for parts. The 390 is a classically good saw and both are still cheaper than the 500 series. The 592 with auto tune is appealing. I can tune a carb, but not having to and having it always right no matter temp or elevation is appealing. Guy at Madsen’s in Centralia says they got the injection pretty dialed. Only knock on it that he hears (they sell a lot of saws) is that the mounts go quick. The price and power of the 585 is appealing and it is a bit simpler since it is still carbureted. Both with the lower emissions is appealing as it would be nice not to smell so bad at the end of the day. Also, but have more power, less vibration, and 1lb. lighter than the 395.

A 70cc saw is probably the best for my needs, but I already have so much 36in chain and bar that it makes sense to stay in the 90cc. A 372 with a power tune can pull 36, but I would rather run it stock.

Might be the time to enter the new millennium and since the 300s are basically a 30ish year platform.

Just thinking out load here. Thanks for listening.

[Grange]

It was good day cutting another load of firewood for the winter. The weather was great with sun and about 50-55 degrees F. The wood is all red oak with a one small maple.

[neufox47]

That’s a full truck!


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[Hood26]

What would you all do?

Took my saw to a local shop that should know its shit. Got it back they replaced only the plug wire. I suspected it needed a coil too. Ok take it out wood cutting for the volunteer group. Won’t shut off, so another broken kill switch. I wonder how did they miss that if they had it running, but whatever I will just bypass it and ground it to shut it down and replace the switch later. All is Ok for two tanks of gas. Shut it down for a coffee break and no go after. Again a good indicator of a bad ignition. Get home order a coil and 5 new kill switches; a shitty design if they come in 5 packs for only a few more dollars than one. Parts came today. Put them all in, make a new wire for the kill switch, and boom saw running on first pull after choke. So I should have never bothered with the shop and fixed my own shit. Lesson learned.

Here’s where I need the advice though. Gave the same shop four chains to grind because my old man is away on a hunting trip. Go to put a chain back on and they fucking ground them round when they were all chisel. This is supposed a be a real fucking saw shop in an actual timber town. I didn’t even think to ask them if they can grind chisel bit because every commercial faller here runs chisel. I asked the saw shop in Salem a couple weeks ago and he doesn’t even have a chisel grinder anymore because he mostly serves homeowners. Not only did they change them all to round, they’re not even sharp. So go confront the shop or just never go there again?

The next best shop is a 30 min drive. Damn I wish grandpa would have kept his shop (Barney’s in Newport OR and then later in John Day) running until I was old enough to run it.

[XXX-er]

Things like that ignition problem are always clear in retro spect

I would complain about the chain grinding if its not what you want

[Rideski]

Never cut many aspen or many deciduous trees, but got this one that's root wad is coming out of the ground as the tree tilts - it's 30 degrees more tilt than before the weekends rain. Is this going to barber chair? 55', 16" DBH


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Do you have the vid of it coming down yet?

[Meadow Skipper]

What would you all do?

I guess I’d tell the shop to replace the chains, then never go back again.

[bodywhomper]

Bummer about the chains. Maybe a call first and then a visit to get the replacement chains.

Is there locals that grinds/sharpens in your area? My neighbor has a shop at his home with a full workload. Sharpens any cutting tools: knives, chippers, saw chains, etc.. He’s the go-to for several landscaping companies and restaurants.

[cat in january]

Agree on chain comments above. They should know.

You know what you need for a saw, but always nice to go a bit lighter.

[XXX-er]

I'm not cutting now days but when i did I had an Oregon jig that I could clamp on the bar to do a really accurate job

so i would do 3 chains in my shop while having a beverage which was enough for the next day

when i first did my own sharpening freehand, I did so unevenly so the cut was pulling to one side, so I like the jig

[Hopeless Sinner]

Do you have the vid of it coming down yet?

Nah, they showed up out of the blue one morning while I was rolling out to the gym. It was a nothingburger so next time I'll know. 1 min cutting, 59 mins cleanup.


Came back to the thread to say they billed me $475, which for a faller, helper, truck, chipper, and disposal for an hour's work plus travel I thought was fair. I may have gotten friends and family discount, but I'm not sure.

[donutlynx]

What would you all do?
Here’s where I need the advice though. Gave the same shop four chains to grind because my old man is away on a hunting trip. Go to put a chain back on and they fucking ground them round when they were all chisel. This is supposed a be a real fucking saw shop in an actual timber town. I didn’t even think to ask them if they can grind chisel bit because every commercial faller here runs chisel. I asked the saw shop in Salem a couple weeks ago and he doesn’t even have a chisel grinder anymore because he mostly serves homeowners. Not only did they change them all to round, they’re not even sharp. So go confront the shop or just never go there again?

The next best shop is a 30 min drive. Damn I wish grandpa would have kept his shop (Barney’s in Newport OR and then later in John Day) running until I was old enough to run it.

Take chains back and ask them to grind square? Saw shops that used to be saw shops are becoming more common. Only one place down here will actually grind square chisel. I hand file all my square chisel now and am looking into getting a Simington.

I will say that I'm surprised that a saw shop in a timber town missed that in NW OR?

Edit: I'm late to the discussion, as usual.

[Hood26]

Take chains back and ask them to grind square? Saw shops that used to be saw shops are becoming more common. Only one place down here will actually grind square chisel. I hand file all my square chisel now and am looking into getting a Simington.

I will say that I'm surprised that a saw shop in a timber town missed that in NW OR?

Edit: I'm late to the discussion, as usual.

Better late than never. The shop in question won’t grind square. That leaves none here in the mid valley that will. I can’t blame them, most square users are grinding their own chain because it’s just part of the job.

My old man has a Simington. He was just out of town and I had been using a lot of chain cutting for the church group. I am going to use this as a learning opportunity for me and finally learn how to do it myself. Maybe make a YouTube video of him griping about having to fix it and get on the record his ways and by proxy grandpa’s ways and techniques since square seems to be so individualized.

[donutlynx]

...I can’t blame them, most square users are grinding their own chain because it’s just part of the job.

My old man has a Simington. He was just out of town and I had been using a lot of chain cutting for the church group. I am going to use this as a learning opportunity for me and finally learn how to do it myself. Maybe make a YouTube video of him griping about having to fix it and get on the record his ways and by proxy grandpa’s ways and techniques since square seems to be so individualized.

Good points. Most professionals are grinding their own chain and you could discuss technique with a dozen log cutters and get a different perspective from each. YouTube video of your dad griping and then handing down two generations of knowledge could be awesome!

[sb]

Stihl new gear presentation next weekend at local rental center. GF has to teach a felling class so looks like i get to go eat free dogs and watch demos. Raffle for a bg56c blower.

[Hood26]

My ignition troubles continued. I had a couple of good days running it, then this weekend fired. Ran on high idle to warm. Hit the throttle to start cutting and then dead. Maybe I should have bought OEM parts. I will tinker a bit more, but ultimately the 15 year old saw might head for the parts pasture because…

Well I happened to be working 5 minutes down the road from the Husky dealer so this new sled dog finished the day cutting fir with the RORs



Also, cut some oak today for myself.



It is a 390XP and one of the last ever made. Two tanks of gas through it so far and really like it. I have had both a 394 and a 395 and both are noticeably heavier. I was tempted by the 592, but $400 extra at $1600 was 1/3 again more. The 572 is probably all the saw I really need, but I have a lot of 36in bar and chain and the 572 would need a port job to spin it, so the 390 it was. Shopping tip, if replacing a saw negotiate for the power head only. Just make sure the sprocket pitch is right. No need to take that short heavy bar and low end chain they are going to package it with.

It was the only one they had and it doesn’t have full wraps, so I will either rob the pair from the 395 (if I can’t get it running with minimal money) or buy a set for $50… or maybe just cut enough with it to realize I am not falling much with it and that half wraps are probably better anyway for firewood.

The last of the 390s have some of the updates like the tool-less air cleaner, hex and flat screws, better choke, side chain tensioner. Only thing I really don’t like about this saw is it still has the shitty kill switch.

This is my first ever new saw. I got 10 years each out of my last saws that were rode hard daily for 5yrs before they came to me, I should be able to weekend warrior this one for a long time.

[sb]

Check the spark arrester?