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  1. #1876
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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Shirk View Post
    Next up is dealing with this nasty widow maker. Attachment 469133


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    Is the top still attached, or is it just hanging by the branches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Shirk View Post
    I have a throw bag that I’m going to try and use and then hitch the rope to my tractor.

    If that doesn’t work, I’m going to drop the tree next to it, into it.

    If that doesn’t work, I’m going to grapple with my mortality and consider cutting the tree down before I wise up and realize that’s a death wish, tell my kids not to play on that part of the property and then hope for a wicked wind storm.


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    Plan #2 seems easy peasy. Looks like it needs some thinning around there anyway.

  3. #1878
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    I see multiple trees “next” to it. Which one? Suggesting putting a rope in the tree that your dropping and rigging a system to assist in pulling it down in case that tree gets hung up with the widowmaker or other trees mid-fall.

  4. #1879
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    Another vote for falling a nearby tree into the hanger. Just remember that momentum is needed to dislodge a hanger; better to hit it with the smaller upper third of a tree that is moving than the bottom 2/3 of a tree that is just starting to fall. Based on the pic, it doesn’t seem supported at all by the original stem, so you have that going for you. Surprised if it lasts the winter with a decent snowpack.

  5. #1880
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    I like the second option 2 but am concerned I’ll just have some double hanger situation if not done properly. So I also like bodywhompers idea. I can’t quite tell if that thing is still attached but if so it’s just some random fibers. The tree itself is pretty dead so the whole thing is coming down as will some of its close buddies. I would maybe use that tree in the right foreground but not sure if it will have enough momentum.

    I may video this so you can add me to the Darwin thread. My wife just asked me not to mess with it unless she is home so she can take me to the hospital.


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  6. #1881
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    Seems like a good opportunity to fell a tree with dynamite in the name of safety.

  7. #1882
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    Just make sure you have a very safe exit and which tree you will be sheltering behind once your strike tree starts to fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peruvian View Post
    Just make sure you have a very safe exit and which tree you will be sheltering behind once your strike tree starts to fall.
    Oh for sure. Will do. I joke about this stuff but it’s honestly something I take super seriously. I took to LSAT blatto and hiked the Kalalau fried out of my lobe but don’t play with trees in any measure.


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  9. #1884
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    If you rig a rope, use a longer rope than you think you’ll need.

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    That’s the plan. I think the throw bag rope isn’t long enough to give me confidence so I’ll use it to drag a longer rope up there. Going to try that option before downing a nearby tree into it.


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  11. #1886
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    I actually meant rigging for a nearby tree to make sure if gets to the ground .

    My thinning exercise of former Doug fir Xmas trees on my property (very dense 35 year old trees) has resulted in many getting hung up on branches of other trees when felling, even when it looked like there’d be enough momentum for the trees to get to the ground. I’ve learned that it’s worth the time to rig up a rope and pull system (out of harms way) in the tree that I’m felling if there’s a even a slim chance of it getting caught up in surrounding branches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodywhomper View Post
    I actually meant rigging for a nearby tree to make sure if gets to the ground .

    My thinning exercise of former Doug fir Xmas trees on my property (very dense 35 year old trees) has resulted in many getting hung up on branches of other trees when felling, even when it looked like there’d be enough momentum for the trees to get to the ground. I’ve learned that it’s worth the time to rig up a rope and pull system (out of harms way) in the tree that I’m felling if there’s a even a slim chance of it getting caught up in surrounding branches.
    Ah gotcha. Good call.

    I’ve also honestly thought about shooting it with a shotgun at the fulcrum as well.


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  13. #1888
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    Comedy from a tree forum I stumbled on.

    https://www.masterblasterhome.com/th...1/#post-929214

  14. #1889
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    I did some ripping with my chainsaw and ever since it the chain runs after taking finger off of throttle. Can easily stop by putting bar on wood but it does cut a bit before it stops. Not a terrible safely issue but would probably put a cut in jeans. Something I need to clean again?
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    dougW, you motherfucking dirty son of a bitch.

  15. #1890
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    so you are saying the idle speed is high ?

    On my sthil I never touched the 2 mixture screws but I could turn the idle up or down, its just a carb linkage stop

    The motor runs on an air/ fuel mix so if the airfilter is partialy plugged it will change the mixture so instead of procrastinating I bought a spare (not expensive) so I could wash one filter out and let it dry after every day

    I would pull the top cover to clean the engine fins/ clutch area/ flip the bar & clean the slot/ sharpen chain & swap the airfilter after every day of operation and the engine always ran the same, cuz the last thing I wanted was to carry this thing up/ down a ski run and not have it working right
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    adjusted idle and its pretty good now , will come to a stop after a while but not right away
    Mrs. Dougw- "I can see how one of your relatives could have been killed by an angry mob."

    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    dougW, you motherfucking dirty son of a bitch.

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    Bought a 70cc knockoff saw that showed up today to use while I go through my husky(and well N+1). Go to fire it up before doing some wood cutting and it just won't fire. It burped like twice but nothing. Correct starting process. Even pulled plug and dried off. Nothing. I'm thinking well you get what you pay for. I let it sit for a few hours and made a whiskey. Go back out and fires up. Pretty sure it got flooded but whatever. Stoked for a bigger bar and more power. Couple of arborist friends have them and said there's a couple things to swap out but overall good saws. And at like a 1/3 of the cost I'll be psyched to just get a few seasons outta it.

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    Taking down a 20 or so footer in my driveway annoyed I brought my docking pole on my boat my second last day out this winter that thing stretches to 12 feet and would let me get the rope where I want it.

    Got a really cheap plug in chainsaw I borrowed not sure it'll work.

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    Never cut many aspen or many deciduous trees, but got this one that's root wad is coming out of the ground as the tree tilts - it's 30 degrees more tilt than before the weekends rain. Is this going to barber chair? 55', 16" DBH


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopeless Sinner View Post
    Never cut many aspen or many deciduous trees, but got this one that's root wad is coming out of the ground as the tree tilts - it's 30 degrees more tilt than before the weekends rain. Is this going to barber chair? 55', 16" DBH


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    If it were me and the root wad is already moving, I'd find a way to pull it over.
    "They don't think it be like it is, but it do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopeless Sinner View Post
    Is this going to barber chair?
    Yes, if you cut it conventionally.

    Small face, boring back cut.

    Bubba would cut it from the back without thinking twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnew_guy View Post
    Yes, if you cut it conventionally.

    Small face, boring back cut.

    Bubba would cut it from the back without thinking twice.
    Oh I see Bubba's work everywhere in the forest. My skills were once state of the ark, but that was 35 years ago so I might pass on this one. Thanks for the pointer though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo View Post
    If it were me and the root wad is already moving, I'd find a way to pull it over.

    I was thinking the same, well we see what the pros want to do the job or perhaps I could get them to knock it down and I'd do the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougW View Post
    adjusted idle and its pretty good now , will come to a stop after a while but not right away
    god I hope you didn't do any other maintenance
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopeless Sinner View Post
    Never cut many aspen or many deciduous trees, but got this one that's root wad is coming out of the ground as the tree tilts - it's 30 degrees more tilt than before the weekends rain. Is this going to barber chair? 55', 16" DBH


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    You got a serious danger tree there. Deciduous are more prone to barber. Leaners definitely risk to barber. Also, it’s hung up in the fir tree too. If you got the money hire that one out.

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