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  1. #26176
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    My dad had a shit heart, so I tell me wife if I have heart attack to drive me the extra 15 minutes to the big Sharp hospital in SD and not the little one here in town. Those fuckers kill people.
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    I think you'd have an easier time understanding people if you remembered that 80% of them are fucking morons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles View Post
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    I'm guessing the people that say others would hate say rural Kansas are the same people that say they hate Florida. I bet they have never been there.
    I've been to both and they both suck. But I sure am glad 25 million people *don't* think those places suck.

    You know what people really hate? Being broke AF and having no hope.
    Hard to argue with that.

    Get out a bit. Talk to people. Go in that shitty looking diner in the middle of nowhere.

    See who is happy. Chances are it will have fuck all to do with where their home is or how nice it is. For us, it may have something to do with skiing but even that isn't a secret recipe
    Yep - it always impresses me how miserable people can claim to be even in the face of being in, arguably, the best time in the history of humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    What's not being mentioned is the health care. If you are close to retirement and maybe want to jump ship a few years earlier because the math works out to move to Podunk, USA, then you better have really good health because that farm doctor with the bare minimum equipment is probably not going to cut it if you need some serious medical care.

    Heck, even here in Bend, St Charles is a 2nd tier hospital with 2nd rate care. No offense to the medical staff and nurses, but it just doesn't compare to the hospitals up in Seattle or Portland.
    Yep. My dad recently moved over to seacoast NH (still north of the bridge, but those environs) and it saved his life when he had a heart issue. They were able to get him in and do a stent in a day or two whereas he probably wouldn't have even gotten to diagnosis in the rural area he was previously.

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    6 figures? What's the first number?

    Is you think it's all gonna be the same in 20 years, rewind to 2003 and let me know if you saw this all coming.

    The WFHrs that can't really explain to me what they do besides laptop, PJs, "hoping on" every now and then better keep their heads on a swivel.

    I'm not saying that those that can afford it won't continue living wherever the fuck Lumberg will let them, I'm saying that, in the future, the percentage of the population to which that applies may decrease for a few reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    What's not being mentioned is the health care. If you are close to retirement and maybe want to jump ship a few years earlier because the math works out to move to Podunk, USA, then you better have really good health because that farm doctor with the bare minimum equipment is probably not going to cut it if you need some serious medical care.

    Heck, even here in Bend, St Charles is a 2nd tier hospital with 2nd rate care. No offense to the medical staff and nurses, but it just doesn't compare to the hospitals up in Seattle or Portland.

    Ha ha. Bend is a big city compared to most ski towns. Try using in-network physicians in a red state rural area that's openly hostile to Obamacare.

    Like I said a while back: the Teton Valley is a great place to retire to, if you use a private jet to access your healthcare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    My dad had a shit heart, so I tell me wife if I have heart attack to drive me the extra 15 minutes to the big Sharp hospital in SD and not the little one here in town. Those fuckers kill people.
    Underrated advice for folks who live in paradise. Usually the health care is sub par at best, worth the drive to a big city facility rather than seeing the Podiatrist whoís staffing the ER for the day.

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    "My house had a great view before all these other houses were built around it"

    Says the person who built that house in front of another house that used to have a great view.

    "When I moved here, there were hardly any people here"

    Says the one of millions of people that moved to a place to get away from all the people.

    I just can't deal with it anymore. I'm going to buy an Outside magazine and see where the next best place to live is and move there before everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    Shit, Bentonville was at the forefront of the "pay people to move here" thing 6 or 7 years ago if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure SOME people moved there but not many .
    I visited the area last year and spent some time with all old college friend who grew up there. He would disagree; MANY people have moved there in recent years. The traffic snarls were pretty noticeable even to a first time visitor like me, and he reported that they were pretty new. That area is exploding like Bozeman.

    I think AI is going to take those WFH jobs before too long anyway. Then those of us who work with our hands will be laughing all the way to the bank, at least until the formerly employed tech folks run out of money to hire us to remodel their houses. We're all connected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain View Post
    "My house had a great view before all these other houses were built around it"

    Says the person who built that house in front of another house that used to have a great view.

    "When I moved here, there were hardly any people here"

    Says the one of millions of people that moved to a place to get away from all the people.
    Should be in the "things that amuse you" thread, don'tchya think?

    Let's face it - shit's changing just like it always did, but as rapidly aging, curmudgeonly old fucks, we're less and less able to deal with it.

    Our kids will do the same when they're middle aged.

    And so it goes...

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    6 figures? What's the first number?

    Is you think it's all gonna be the same in 20 years, rewind to 2003 and let me know if you saw this all coming.

    The WFHrs that can't really explain to me what they do besides laptop, PJs, "hoping on" every now and then better keep their heads on a swivel.

    I'm not saying that those that can afford it won't continue living wherever the fuck Lumberg will let them, I'm saying that, in the future, the percentage of the population to which that applies may decrease for a few reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles View Post
    6 figures? What's the first number?

    Is you think it's all gonna be the same in 20 years, rewind to 2003 and let me know if you saw this all coming.

    The WFHrs that can't really explain to me what they do besides laptop, PJs, "hoping on" every now and then better keep their heads on a swivel.

    I'm not saying that those that can afford it won't continue living wherever the fuck Lumberg will let them, I'm saying that, in the future, the percentage of the population to which that applies may decrease for a few reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by climberevan View Post
    I think AI is going to take those WFH jobs before too long anyway. Then those of us who work with our hands will be laughing all the way to the bank, at least until the formerly employed tech folks run out of money to hire us to remodel their houses. We're all connected.
    That was the theme of the recent South Park special. The last handyman in town becomes obscenely wealthy as there's no one left who "knows how to do shit" and he's taking bids for his time.

    Already happened in Jackson. I know a guy who repairs hot tubs there and he makes more than double per hour what an airplane mechanic makes in a normal economy. Wrap your head around that! To get a hot tub pump swapped out in Jhole, you'll be paying around $200/hr for labor, a huge markup on parts and maybe waiting a couple weeks. Basic tub maintenance is around $1800/year for weekly cleaning and chems so he can subcontract the grunt work at $30/hr and still be rolling in the cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neckdeep View Post
    That was the theme of the recent South Park special. The last handyman in town becomes obscenely wealthy as there's no one left who "knows how to do shit" and he's taking bids for his time.

    Already happened in Jackson. I know a guy who repairs hot tubs there and he makes more than double what an airplane mechanic makes in a normal economy.
    Hahaha. That was a REALLY great episode.


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    Quote Originally Posted by neckdeep View Post
    That was the theme of the recent South Park special. The last handyman in town becomes obscenely wealthy as there's no one left who "knows how to do shit" and he's taking bids for his time.

    Already happened in Jackson. I know a guy who repairs hot tubs there and he makes more than double per hour what an airplane mechanic makes in a normal economy. Wrap your head around that! To get a hot tub pump swapped out in Jhole, you'll be paying around $200/hr for labor, a huge markup on parts and maybe waiting a couple weeks. Basic tub maintenance is around $1800/year for weekly cleaning and chems so he can subcontract the grunt work at $30/hr and still be rolling in the cash.
    I'm seriously considering this out on SJI. Only drawback is I would have to take calls from Seattle techies to work on their weekend houses. But firing clients is a favorite past time of mine so I could make it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by climberevan View Post
    I visited the area last year and spent some time with all old college friend who grew up there. He would disagree; MANY people have moved there in recent years. The traffic snarls were pretty noticeable even to a first time visitor like me, and he reported that they were pretty new. That area is exploding like Bozeman.

    I think AI is going to take those WFH jobs before too long anyway. Then those of us who work with our hands will be laughing all the way to the bank, at least until the formerly employed tech folks run out of money to hire us to remodel their houses. We're all connected.
    Gotta love the "I work with my hands" superiority complex that assumes none of us have other skillsets. WFH is here to stay, but as others have mentioned, making Silicon Valley pay not in SV is likely to be a thing of the past. That said, it's a better model for plenty of jobs, so count on it continuing.

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    Superiority complexes from desk jockeys who happen to work trades, no less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    What's not being mentioned is the health care. If you are close to retirement and maybe want to jump ship a few years earlier because the math works out to move to Podunk, USA, then you better have really good health because that farm doctor with the bare minimum equipment is probably not going to cut it if you need some serious medical care.

    Heck, even here in Bend, St Charles is a 2nd tier hospital with 2nd rate care. No offense to the medical staff and nurses, but it just doesn't compare to the hospitals up in Seattle or Portland.
    Parents have had great care at St Charles and the overall billing fuckery has been ok (by US standards. Obviously weíre not a 1st world nation in this dept).

    You want really shitty, try Barton in Tahoe. 3X the cost, 1/3 the quality. . Fortunately we have options within a 45 min drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain View Post
    I'm seriously considering this out on SJI. Only drawback is I would have to take calls from Seattle techies to work on their weekend houses. But firing clients is a favorite past time of mine so I could make it work.
    Some rich lady living in a $6-7M house on 3 acres tried to haggle on a $600 repair bill. He waived the bill and terminated her maintenance contract on the spot. He was like, fuck it, I can replace you faster than you can replace me.

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    My mom was a reallly good dressmaker and her prices were actualy pretty cheap, but the only person who ever complained was the wife of a guy who owned a doz building supply stores so she obviously had the $$$$

    but my mom fired her
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    Don't think the Healthcare thing is just for the Olds. I'm 48 (only kind of old) and had a heart attack while running. Luckily I live less than 10 minutes from a great hospital who just happened to have a world class intervention cardiologist on call that day. I was back home 2 days later. If the ambulance ride was 30 minutes, instead of 10, no guarantee that I'm still here with no complications.

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    Real Estate Crash thread

    Iím sitting here chuckling at the Midwest bashing in this thread. Iím loving my life here in Northern Wisconsin. I broke 100+ days of skiing last year and the fly fishing here is incredible. Very casual and laidback lifestyle that I am loving.

    Donít get me wrong, I loved every minute of my almost 40 years in Montana. But I love my life in this area just as much. I guess itís just a matter of perspective.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Iím sitting here chuckling at the Midwest bashing in this thread. Iím loving my life here in Northern Wisconsin. I broke 100+ days of skiing last year and the fly fishing here is incredible. Very casual and laidback lifestyle that I am loving.

    Donít get me wrong, I loved every minute of my almost 40 years in Montana. But I love my life in this area just as much. I guess itís just a matter of perspective.
    And I suspect you are, generally, a pretty happy person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Iím sitting here chuckling at the Midwest bashing in this thread. Iím loving my life here in Northern Wisconsin. I broke 100+ days of skiing last year and the fly fishing here is incredible. Very casual and laidback lifestyle that I am loving.

    Donít get me wrong, I loved every minute of my almost 40 years in Montana. But I love my life in this area just as much. I guess itís just a matter of perspective.



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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    And I suspect you are, generally, a pretty happy person.
    and wow its almost like there are alot of not very happy people on TGR which is something that has been apparent to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    and wow its almost like there are alot of not very happy people on TGR which is something that has been apparent to me
    I suspect for most, it's a schtick.

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