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  1. #18201
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    Quote Originally Posted by mud View Post
    You don't have to work in tech to WFH.
    Entire industries and departments can WFH now compared to 20 years ago.
    Name them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    News flash: Not everyone works in tech, therefore, tech workers do not justify a spiked market
    Every company requires it though, and what the fuck does an analyst do but work on a computer and have occasional meetings? It quickly becomes untenable to have different sides have different rules when the workday is the same and there's massive facilities and salary savings possible.
    Roles that can 100% wfh:
    Contact centers
    Analysts
    Data scientists
    Software devs
    Project/program management (non construction)
    Professional programs educators
    Really most anything that doesn't deliver a physical good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    I'm not a perma bear. I just marvel at how some believe that buying high is a wise personal financial decision, especially after '08.
    And people keep pointing out location matters. I mean, I kinda wish I bought into “high” Seattle back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcphee View Post
    Your entire existence is to provoke these responses. You’re really good at it but it’s pretty sad this is how you spend your retirement. So fucking what that I choose to respond to you in anger. Fuck you.

    No and no.
    Well, actually, no, I just did thirty miles on the roadie and some early fall gardening, and now I'm going to make a sandwich and a latte. Have a nice day! Go Yanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by schuss View Post
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    Contact centers
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    Project/program management (non construction)
    Professional programs educators
    Really most anything that doesn't deliver a physical good.
    Finance/bookkeeping/accountant/accounts payable/accounts receivable
    Customer service
    Account Management
    Contract/Account Retention
    Purchasing
    Marketing
    Legal
    HR

    Many other jobs can be based from home with travel to events/vendors/on-site as needed, like Sales Representatives.

    Really for a manufacturing or distribution business the only people who "need" to be in the office are those who make things, pack boxes or oversee the people who do those things.

    Outside of manufacturing/warehouse operations portion of a business, the c-suite/vp/dir management team likely can be in/out of office based on whats going on, and split time between the operations hub/hq and whatever slice of lake/ocean/mountain/retreat/paradise they carved for themselves. They're on the golf course most of the time anyway, what does it matter where they sleep?

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    i really admire those who calmly respond to Benny's insane flailing about

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    Oh, and wait until they get that zoom call about pay cuts. Not working in SF anymore? What, you moved to podunk? Fine, here's podunk pay, plus, maybe, 10%, if they like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mud View Post
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    That's actually kind of a shiity metaphor. I mean, get back to us in a year or two.

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    I remember being incensed at the housing prices in Seattle circa 1985.
    $200k for a 3bd/2ba Phinney Ridge bungalow? Even with a view of the Olympics, I was "fuck that".
    Same for the $150k Ballard flats warshacks.

    It sure seemed ridiculously high at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    I remember being incensed at the housing prices in Seattle circa 1985.
    $200k for a 3bd/2ba Phinney Ridge bungalow? Even with a view of the Olympics, I was "fuck that".
    Same for the $150k Ballard flats warshacks.

    It sure seemed ridiculously high at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    I remember being incensed at the housing prices in Seattle circa 1985.
    $200k for a 3bd/2ba Phinney Ridge bungalow? Even with a view of the Olympics, I was "fuck that".
    Same for the $150k Ballard flats warshacks.

    It sure seemed ridiculously high at the time.
    I hear that, lots of sticker shock when looking at Bellingham housing these days, including our RE agent. But isn't it always ridiculously high? I'm pretty sure that most of the houses in my neighborhood sold at a record high price every time they were sold. We didn't even tank after 2008, just had no appreciation for 3-4 years.

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    VPR held their fall fundraiser last week. Lots of new donations from people that had recently moved to Vermont. Not sure if things are slowing down but a couple of places listed like “shit I’ll sell if someone gives me a crazy amount of money” have been sitting for a while.

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    Seeing a good amount of price drops in SWMT right now, but I think most of it is the usual fall slowdown and sellers who don't want to pull a listing and just wait until spring to relist.

    I still think if you can buy something unique and/or rare right now you are going to continue to see lots of upside year after year.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_pdx View Post
    But isn't it always ridiculously high? .
    Ya think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flounder View Post
    VPR held their fall fundraiser last week. Lots of new donations from people that had recently moved to Vermont. Not sure if things are slowing down but a couple of places listed like “shit I’ll sell if someone gives me a crazy amount of money” have been sitting for a while.
    A lady from NYC told me this summer that she moved fulltime to a place that is being heated only by a woodstove this winter. I've already got my slippers on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenstateofmind View Post
    A lady from NYC told me this summer that she moved fulltime to a place that is being heated only by a woodstove this winter. I've already got my slippers on
    That reminds me of the stories of hippies moving to Vermont way back in hippie times that had no clue about, duh, winter. Boy, were they miserable.

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    You find so much joy in other people’s misfortunes and I’m the angry one?


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    Well, even at the tender age I read those articles, I kinda said, duh. What were they thinking?

    Now, it's not only the cold, but, the junkies and then locals that hate you. Oh, and black fly season. That's fun.

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    It is often impossible to know where your life will be in 5, 10 or 15 years. And the same can be said for most anything except RE in a good area. In my lifetime, RE has consistently gone up overtime. Sure, it may pull back for a few years but over the course of 10 years it is always way more. Will this continue? Probably unless your presently about 30 feet above sea level, then time isn't your friend.
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    I think you'd have an easier time understanding people if you remembered that 80% of them are fucking morons.
    That is why I like dogs, more than most people.

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    Even if you buy at the top of a housing boom you will make up the difference when you add in inflation and rising rent prices.
    Here is one slide I use in teaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mud View Post
    Even if you buy at the top of a housing boom you will make up the difference when you add in inflation and rising rent prices.
    Here is one slide I use in teaching.

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    national averages? Are these courses dirt pimp seminars?

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    Benny is just your stereotypical New Englander who doesn't understand the Western real estate scene for the last 40 years. That's why people from the West get such a kick out of his rants. For a person like myself who has only lived in places with skyrocketing real estate prices, I am blown away there are places out there like Connecticut that have experienced no growth in the last 20 years. Both extremes suck for different reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    national averages? Are these courses dirt pimp seminars?
    Back of the napkin, averaged conservatively over 80 years, the last 40 years it would be a lot higher. Inflation would be closer to 5% yoy.
    This is for dirt pimps so it doesn't have to be exact, just something to show clients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    Benny is just your stereotypical New Englander who doesn't understand the Western real estate scene for the last 40 years. That's why people from the West get such a kick out of his rants. For a person like myself who has only lived in places with skyrocketing real estate prices, I am blown away there are places out there like Connecticut that have experienced no growth in the last 20 years. Both extremes suck for different reasons.
    Hey, I pretty much understand the western market. I look at it aghast most of the time, because, late stage capitalism and failed state end run times and all that. There's no water, it's burning, the ground shakes violently under tens of millions of people, and it's about as fossil fuel and auto/truck dependant as any place on Earth. But, hey, people dig it. Texas is number one in internal immigration. Texas. And yet, people are spending a shit ton to move to some places. They don't seem to care about education or culture. Certainly not politics. Or, maybe the last part. They like that shit. Whatever. Meanwhile, we as a country don't make anything anymore and the economy seems to run on the twenty percent with any kind of income and money, investing that money in silly shit, like Facebook. And winning.

    So, anyway, I still haven't had Bozeman explained to me. Well.

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