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Thread: Real Estate Crash thread
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08-19-2021, 12:39 PM #17551
The definition of zoning is preventing people from doing what they want with the land. It's big brother government knowing what is best for the poeple, regardless of what the people are screaming for.
Having lived in a shared wall townhouse, and one bedroom apartment, in Seattle for 8 years, I loved it. Not now that I have kids but some of the best years of my life. I walked/biked/bused/light railed/ubered everywhere in the city. Had a garage with a small car I used for mountain/coast escapes and Coscto/Lowes and was a 5 minute chill drive to both an I5 and I90 on ramp both directions (lived in North Beacon Hill). I would gladly return to that lifestyle later on in life. Don't knock it until you try it. And yes, I was pretty spoiled/privileged having that garage as most of these new places have no parking. Had friends in Seattle that didn't own a car who still got after it bumming rides and doing zipcar things. Whether we want it or not, this is the future of America.
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08-19-2021, 12:50 PM #17552
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08-19-2021, 02:16 PM #17553
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08-19-2021, 02:27 PM #17554
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08-19-2021, 02:29 PM #17555
I guess it depends on the property and your perspective. The person living on rural 20 acre zoning who wants to subdivide but can't would say zoning is preventing them from doing what they want with their land. The developer wanting to build a 50 story building when the zoning limits the structure to 30 would say the same thing.
Zoning was invented in Euclid, Ohio in the 1920a
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villag...bler_Realty_Co.
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08-19-2021, 02:32 PM #17556
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08-19-2021, 02:34 PM #17557
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08-19-2021, 02:46 PM #17558
Consider all the knowitall authoritarians that show up on this thread....how many of you would really like to share a wall with them or have them serving as your HOA president?
The people around you are the same way...the only difference is they are polite to your face because they don't have a screen to hide behind.
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08-19-2021, 02:53 PM #17559______
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I think for the market these are selling (“affordable” starter homes) that $300/month is a chunk of change that many people would rather spend on a single family home with more space and less restrictions.
It’s probably more than most people would budget/save on a monthly basis for a newish build at that price point IMO.
For me, I’d rather do something else with that $300 than give it to an HOA to manage for me.
When we were shopping the conversation literally went “hey look at this townhouse, oh it has an $400 HOA, which is like $x,xxx mortgage/escrow payment, let’s keep looking for a SFH.”
I am not opposed to HOAs on their face and have lived in one with reasonable fees for shared maintenance.
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08-19-2021, 02:56 PM #17560
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08-19-2021, 02:59 PM #17561
Root, you are right. Zoning is at the will of the majority of the people in the state. My statements are from the perspective of someone being told what they can't do with their land. But it is not always what the majority in a city or county want, because there are state laws (like the growth management act) that dictate what the city/counties can do regardless of what the majority there want (at least in places like WA, OR, and CA). Anti-sprawl advocates successfully suing a county/city for failing to adhere to state laws in their comprehensive development plan is common around here.
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08-19-2021, 03:03 PM #17562
Whether or not $300/mo is a "high" HOA fee depends on what you get for the $300/mo, how well funded the HOA reserve is, and how likely a special assessment might be for major maintenance. $300 sounds pretty steep if it just includes water/sewer/trash, the reserve is underfunded, and it's an older complex with major repairs looming that could require a special assessment.
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08-19-2021, 03:06 PM #17563
Listing agent, their managing broker, selling agent, and their managing broker.
Some firms here do a percentage up to covering the fees, then nothing thereafter, while others do something along the lines of what you said.
Either way, it's a split.
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08-19-2021, 03:08 PM #17564
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08-19-2021, 03:09 PM #17565
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08-19-2021, 03:11 PM #17566
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08-19-2021, 03:25 PM #17567
La Conner is inundated with tourists eight months of the year. But if you are into rural living, the northern part of Skagit County is an amazing location. Just as close to Baker as Bellingham, closer access to the rest of the Cascades, close to mtb trails, closer to Seattle and the airport, and less Canadians at the Costco. Voted 52/44 for Biden. Lots of aging hippies and ag workers.
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08-19-2021, 03:53 PM #17568
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08-19-2021, 04:05 PM #17569______
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08-19-2021, 04:06 PM #17570Banned
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I'll get in touch with my friend and then connect you. There's some great hiking by Baker Lake and Darrington, I prefer those hiking trails to the ones closer to B'ham, due to fewer crowds. The road biking ought to be pretty good and access to Whidbey is nice. MTB is obviously not as good a B'ham, but few places are.
The Skagit valley is really nice, it's too bad that La Conner is the only town in that areas with a nice walkable downtown. Mt. Vernon has potential but it just doesn't have a nice vibe (at least to me).
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08-19-2021, 05:24 PM #17571
Agree with all that. Especially the Mt Vernon having potential but somehow perpetually not quite there part. However, they do have the best Thai food - scratch that - ONLY authentically good Thai food in two counties.
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08-20-2021, 06:53 AM #17572
Yeah, zoning is almost exclusively run by localities in terms of what actually matters. State rules are often the simple stuff, like don't build on wetlands and make sure you have valid septic/lot lines. As others have said, most change resistance comes from existing residents, who ultimately are the ones that serve on zoning commissions and apply/enforce rules and grant/deny variances. There are many that want to freeze their towns in amber because they moved in 20 years ago and how dare you try to change things.
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08-20-2021, 07:36 AM #17573User
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Real Estate Crash thread
I petitioned the city to change my R1 zoned .30 acre residential neighborhood lot to an M2 so that I could manufacture pig manure fertilizer. They said no, fucking bullshit overbearing government. What about my rights as a landowner?
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08-20-2021, 08:03 AM #17574
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08-20-2021, 09:28 AM #17575______
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I think I could make a pretty good argument that Bend was a much more pleasant place to live 10-20 years ago than it is today.
I’m probably wrong since people keep moving there.
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