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06-12-2021, 03:17 PM #14976
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06-12-2021, 03:23 PM #14977Banned
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FWIW, that's the trade I would point people toward above any other. Clean work (for the trades), pays well, and tends to attract folks with a little more going on upstairs. Wiring a commercial building takes a bit more brain power than making sure that you don't have leaks and that all your shit is flowing downhill.
That being said, I hope he's comfortable with heights and big ladders.
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06-12-2021, 03:26 PM #14978one of those sickos
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High water mark?
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06-12-2021, 03:28 PM #14979
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06-12-2021, 03:29 PM #14980Banned
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06-12-2021, 03:47 PM #14981I drink it up
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06-12-2021, 03:52 PM #14982Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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06-12-2021, 03:59 PM #14983I drink it up
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06-12-2021, 04:01 PM #14984Registered User
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06-12-2021, 04:06 PM #14985Banned
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In America, those tasks get farmed out to the business owner's wife/gf, who does them without compensation. I've seen it firsthand several times.
And the end result of that attitude toward art and artists is a country and society that are reprehensibly ugly in every way, shape and form. America!
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06-12-2021, 04:14 PM #14987Registered User
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so mrs Coors does it eh ?
the writing jingles, label &case art
I'd like to see you run that one past mrs glademaster,
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06-12-2021, 04:16 PM #14988
They offered no experience $60k with training and benefits with guaranteed $50/hour after 2 years and claimed over $200k for their full cert guys.
There's lots of IT/software jobs around here that pay less than $60k. So it's relevant.
Admittedly, this is in the greater Puget Sound where construction is going bananas.
The point being that despite the glamor of the tech industry, there are ways to make a buck and have a future here in the trades.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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06-12-2021, 04:20 PM #14989
In a broad sense yes.
Part of my service is to prevent erosion. Basically I help builders/developers in minimizing the total pollutants leaving job sites and muddy water is considered a pollutant.
That's when I learned that people are crazy. The homeowners couldn't wait a few months for things to get more reasonable.I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
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Back in the day I bought a T-shirt at Likely paddlefest, my GF the teacher & spelling nazi pointed out that Likley was mis-spelled which I point out to the organizer, buddy said he got really busy so he let the guy in the tattoo shop take care of it
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06-12-2021, 04:27 PM #14991I drink it up
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Your protestations notwithstanding, that’s still pretty anecdotal and you’re still grasping at outliers. Google says median electrician salary in that area is around $80k, which… sure. I’m not saying that the trades aren’t a valid career path, but to my point and to the thread, it isn’t looking good as a path to home ownership given current trends. How much does a 2000 square ft 3 bedroom home cost in puget sound?
focus.
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06-12-2021, 04:31 PM #14992Registered User
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06-12-2021, 04:59 PM #14993
From https://www.comparably.com/salaries/...-in-seattle-wa
Salary Ranges for Union Electricians in Seattle, WA
The salaries of Union Electricians in Seattle, WA range from $35,879 to $173,907 , with a median salary of $75,369 . The middle 57% of Union Electricians makes between $75,369 and $108,139, with the top 86% making $173,907.
https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...le_WA/overview
Median Seattle house price is $765k.
Assuming a $600k loan at 3%, monthlies are around $2800.
If a kid starts out as an electrician, ends up in their 30s making $8k/month as an employee, no where near the top end of the data, that's well into the ballpark for a loan. Plus, they're set up to start their own contracting company.
So, I still think there's an argument for it.
Then there's this ad:
Journeyman/Journeywoman Plumber
apex mechanical
Seattle, WA
$75 - $95 an hour
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06-12-2021, 05:21 PM #14994
Until tech learns to run on something other than electricity, there will be a need for electricians.
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06-12-2021, 05:23 PM #14995
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06-12-2021, 05:24 PM #14996
Glamour? Tech industry?
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06-12-2021, 05:31 PM #14997
I don’t know where you get electricians for $60k a year. Sometimes I think those stats are weighed down by people saying I’m an “x” who really aren’t. The average accountant salary is less than $60k according to Google but I pay fresh out of college accountants $50-60 and most people on staff make $100+.
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Its Saturday children. Bong hits and bike rides
I'm buy 3/4 birch for less than a 100 a sheet. acx 5/8 whatevs
Lumber will drop like a rock once the lazy politicians get off there hands and start asking questions only to find out we are being gouged but that won't happen
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06-12-2021, 05:34 PM #14999I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
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Electricians doing engineering and supervising high voltage installs and power grid shit are making 200k Jimmy half fried pulling wire w a journey mans lic is getting 45k dont kid yourself
Alot of the high wage paying companies are run by assholes and have huge turnovers there is a couple around me.
My best bud growing up is an electrician in the bay area he makes good money no college does hard core commercial work watched a co worker get fryed by endless amps couldn't touch the guy he got smoked to a crisp until they shut the power down they were working on a live disconnect in silicon valley so he quit on the spot wanted to be realtor realized that sucks and went back to being an electrician
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