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  1. #19001
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    Quote Originally Posted by Name Redacted View Post
    I have a friend who built an earth ship house in Park county. No way he would have gotten away with the shit he did in Summit. haha. I spent time out there helping him. Fun times.
    I've been in a bunch of earthship homes and most have been super cool, but yeah, I don't think they meet many town/state code requirements!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifelinksplit View Post
    That's a sweet looking build Toadman.

    How long did the hardwood flooring need to "acclimate"?

    Also as to your subs flaking comment. I think people are really seeing the value in a good and established GC in this building climate. Not saying subs aren't flaking but that's usually a subpar GC's excuse when they can't handle scheduling(which is particularly difficult right now) and/or don't have longstanding work relationships with multiple subs.

    Good luck getting to the finish line. It can be beyond frustrating on both sides right now.

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    Hardwood floors haven't been installed yet. It's gotten cold here, but we have a few space heaters keeping the temps in the low 60's. No gas furnace yet. Supposed to arrive this week. Was ordered back in June. We also don't have garage doors, that were ordered back in August just as steel prices decided they needed to go for a ride up. Maybe see those in January. Our exterior doors, also ordered about 14-16 weeks ago by a local Oregon company might show up sometime in December. Right now our GC just installed some used doors to close up and lock the house.

    Our builder has been in business for about 20 plus years. Both he and his brother ran construction companies mostly as framers and finished carpentry. He has at least 4 subs for each job. They are all busy. All you have to do is go for a 30 minute driver around Bend, and you will see an insane amount of construction going on. The subs that aren't busy are the ones that have a rep for so-so quality work.

    But on several occasions our GC has gone to other subs outside his preferred group to get things done. Ends up being more money in most cases. Sometimes the subs are delayed on other projects because of that good old change order thingy that buyers with money decide they want to change their minds on something. We have essentially avoided that scenario of making changes. Just two changes that were due to excavation on our sloped lot not needing to be dug as deep. Actually ended up saving money on concrete foundation, which meant relocating a storage unit below the office because the house is about 4' less in height from the foundation to the floor. Which turns out to be a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopeless Sinner View Post
    Great house!
    Thanks. Our architect is a local Bend resident who has been in Bend since 1971. Big time skier. He was personal friends with Bill Healy. He was the draftsman that did the first hand drawn sketch of the Pine Martin Lodge at Bachelor for the design team that was awarded the contract. He has the original framed drawing in his office. I want that drawing so bad!

    This is the drawing that sold us on going with Vern Sexton;

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    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

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    Yeah, that's nice. Modern twist on classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_pdx View Post
    We've been mindful of the "Flood Number" that Redfin reports, but yeah, what's going on now is bringing that number to life.
    That house you were looking at with a FF5 was inexplicably dry when I drove by it. However, kids from all over the neighborhood were skimboarding in the west edge of Broadway Park. But mostly this map didn't turn out to be all that accurate (at this low a level).

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    Though zooming out yields an extremely accurate prediction.

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    The purple blob over Iowa St is where the abandoned cars and kayakers were, and the swath from Dewey Valley to the freeway was completely underwater. There were people standing on the "rainbow bridge" on Northwest Ave with their phones out because what's normally a road under there was a river all the way to the bay.

  6. #19006
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    Fack, house just sold in JH for 65 Million. Anonomous midwesterners with coin. 9,000 sq ft, you do the math!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    That house you were looking at with a FF5 was inexplicably dry when I drove by it. However, kids from all over the neighborhood were skimboarding in the west edge of Broadway Park. But mostly this map didn't turn out to be all that accurate (at this low a level).

    Though zooming out yields an extremely accurate prediction.

    The purple blob over Iowa St is where the abandoned cars and kayakers were, and the swath from Dewey Valley to the freeway was completely underwater. There were people standing on the "rainbow bridge" on Northwest Ave with their phones out because what's normally a road under there was a river all the way to the bay.
    Good to know! I see a house hit Redfin today that looks like it's on the edge of the flood zone (1206 Grant St.)...gonna be a hard sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Fack, house just sold in JH for 65 Million. Anonomous midwesterners with coin. 9,000 sq ft, you do the math!
    Need more fingers and toes. Did they get some property with that, or is it just a zero lot line McMansion on a 10k sq ft lot?

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    Real Estate Crash thread

    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Fack, house just sold in JH for 65 Million. Anonomous midwesterners with coin. 9,000 sq ft, you do the math!
    that property is incredible though.
    and 55 acres with teton and snake river views
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    "2019 was Teton Valley’s best year for real estate since the Global Financial Crisis. Transactions grew to 586 sales (which out-paced the Jackson Hole market) and the complementing dollar volume swelled to $181M. In 2019 the median home price was $450,000.

    Then came Covid, and the real estate surge that came with it. By the end of 2020, transactions had nearly doubled year-over-year to more than 1,100 sales. Dollar volume followed suit to $364M. How much more could the market grow?

    During the first nine months of 2021, Teton Valley resoundingly answered that question. 2021 transactions through September showed nearly 900 sales with $450M in overall sales volume. Vacant land sales were up 70% over the first nine months of 2020 and represent 67.2% of all sales in 2021 so far. The median home price has grown to $750,000 (quite the difference from $450,000 in 2019).

    If Teton Valley continues its break-neck pace for Q4, the year-end total is poised to reach $600M, or nearly triple the overall dollar volume from just two years ago."

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    We are seriously pondering purchasing a small place in the lower Keys of Florida but global warming is scaring the shit out of me, I guess the question is, can I get 30 years out of it before its under water?
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    A couple years ago I met a guy studying climate change who bought a waterfront property in the San Juans. He said it would be his kid's problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teleee View Post
    We are seriously pondering purchasing a small place in the lower Keys of Florida but global warming is scaring the shit out of me, I guess the question is, can I get 30 years out of it before its under water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by teleee View Post
    We are seriously pondering purchasing a small place in the lower Keys of Florida but global warming is scaring the shit out of me, I guess the question is, can I get 30 years out of it before its under water?
    Won't a hurricane or tropical storm take it apart way sooner than that? Why not just use a STR for the times you want to be down there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_pdx View Post
    Good to know! I see a house hit Redfin today that looks like it's on the edge of the flood zone (1206 Grant St.)...gonna be a hard sell.
    And that area south of Lakeway is still "pre-gentrification".

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_pdx View Post
    Won't a hurricane or tropical storm take it apart way sooner than that? Why not just use a STR for the times you want to be down there?
    Hurricanes are a given, the place I am looking at has been there for over 40 years and has taken the full force of several hurricanes right on the chin and has kept right on ticking. I will be spending WAY to much time down there (if all goes according to plan) for STR's to be a viable option. I am more concerned about the whole damn chain disappearing under water
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_pdx View Post
    Won't a hurricane or tropical storm take it apart way sooner than that? Why not just use a STR for the times you want to be down there?
    Homes mostly survive unless it’s a really big one.

    Telee, perspective of someone who works in insurance (but not homeowners), look at the details of the lot and home. Keys generally have no waves until a storm comes, what is your exposure to waves when they do come? How many feet above sea level are you, same question for roads, are any going to be close to underwater in 1-2’ of rise. See the shit show in the outer banks of the Carolinas where they have major roads that are very difficult to maintain and pushing costs to homeowners. Get the house on stilts that will be beach front when the sea goes up 3’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    And that area south of Lakeway is still "pre-gentrification".
    I have not so fond memories of wandering through that neighborhood looking for my girlfriend's roomie's lost cat named Cooter. Good lord I got some deservedly strange looks.

    Good luck in the hunt dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by teleee View Post
    Hurricanes are a given, the place I am looking at has been there for over 40 years and has taken the full force of several hurricanes right on the chin and has kept right on ticking. I am more concerned about the whole damn chain disappearing under water
    Valid concerns telee. We live 30 feet above sea level and I get worried. If your 50 feet above sea level, I could see you pulling the trigger, but if it is 10 feet above sea level, one good storm surge and you are gone and maybe wiped from the face of the Earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teleee View Post
    We are seriously pondering purchasing a small place in the lower Keys of Florida but global warming is scaring the shit out of me, I guess the question is, can I get 30 years out of it before its under water?

    It sure seems like it could be a constant source of stress. I have good friends there, but they own 5 or 6 houses in the US so they're not tied to dealing w any pain like rebuilding, or having no place to live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    Valid concerns telee. We live 30 feet above sea level and I get worried. If your 50 feet above sea level, I could see you pulling the trigger, but if it is 10 feet above sea level, one good storm surge and you are gone and maybe wiped from the face of the Earth.
    there ain't much in the keys that is 50 feet above sea level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    there ain't much in the keys that is 50 feet above sea level.
    Fun fact: there's NO actual land that high in the Keys.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solare...y%2C%20Florida.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraham View Post
    A couple years ago I met a guy studying climate change who bought a waterfront property in the San Juans. He said it would be his kid's problem.
    In the future, Orcas will be two islands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    In the future, Orcas will be two islands.
    The name will finally make sense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John_B View Post
    cat named Cooter
    I like that woman's style.

    That area used to be a lot sketchier bitd. The city bought and demolished the Aloha, and Mac's Motel has been out of business for at least 5 years now, so the crackhead/tweeker/hooker contingent has moved on.

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