Real Estate Crash thread

[dunfree]

With the real estate explosion, the West's 80 year dominance over the East as best place to live has ended. Benny wants a big airport, which means near a population over 500k. Boise and Spokane were the last hold outs and now both are fucked. It never snows anymore in CA. OR and WA don't have enough ski resorts to support the exploding populations and the ones they do have are at low elevation passes where it rains more than snows. Half the West has no water. The places that do have enough water to grow trees are on fire all Summer long. You'll take years off your life expectancy living through a summer in Spokane or Missoula breathing that shit in on a daily basis.

Buy a cheap condo in VT or upstate. Enjoy the good days they do have there. And when it's shitty, jet across the pond.

if you are gonna suck forest fire smoke for weeks do you want to be in Seattle, Minneapolis or NYC?

[skaredshtles]

With the real estate explosion, the West's 80 year dominance over the East as best place to live has ended. Benny wants a big airport, which means near a population over 500k. Boise and Spokane were the last hold outs and now both are fucked. It never snows anymore in CA. OR and WA don't have enough ski resorts to support the exploding populations and the ones they do have are at low elevation passes where it rains more than snows. Half the West has no water. The places that do have enough water to grow trees are on fire all Summer long. You'll take years off your life expectancy living through a summer in Spokane or Missoula breathing that shit in on a daily basis.

Buy a cheap condo in VT or upstate. Enjoy the good days they do have there. And when it's shitty, jet across the pond.

[Ted Striker]

I laughed at "cube jockeys and oil changers"

I do wish he'd try to find a way to live that gave him more satisfaction (better quality of life), because he seems constantly miserable - always griping about something or the other.

Is that real though, or just a shtick for us?

[mcphee]

I laughed at "cube jockeys and oil changers"

My job involves both so that one really hurt

[RootSkier]

You'll take years off your life expectancy living through a summer in Spokane or Missoula breathing that shit in on a daily basis.

Plus it just sucks ass living through it.

I still think Duluth, MN is the place.

[Ted Striker]

With the real estate explosion, the West's 80 year dominance over the East as best place to live has ended. Benny wants a big airport, which means near a population over 500k. Boise and Spokane were the last hold outs and now both are fucked. It never snows anymore in CA. OR and WA don't have enough ski resorts to support the exploding populations and the ones they do have are at low elevation passes where it rains more than snows. Half the West has no water. The places that do have enough water to grow trees are on fire all Summer long. You'll take years off your life expectancy living through a summer in Spokane or Missoula breathing that shit in on a daily basis.

Lotta truth to that. Same goes for Abraham's storia di due Beniamino.

Inexpensive, accessible, uncrowded. Pick any two.

[WMD]

With the real estate explosion, the West's 80 year dominance over the East as best place to live has ended. Benny wants a big airport, which means near a population over 500k. Boise and Spokane were the last hold outs and now both are fucked. It never snows anymore in CA. OR and WA don't have enough ski resorts to support the exploding populations and the ones they do have are at low elevation passes where it rains more than snows. Half the West has no water. The places that do have enough water to grow trees are on fire all Summer long. You'll take years off your life expectancy living through a summer in Spokane or Missoula breathing that shit in on a daily basis.

Buy a cheap condo in VT or upstate. Enjoy the good days they do have there. And when it's shitty, jet across the pond.

What's funny about this post is that most of what has changed the quality of life in the west (fires, smoke, drought, rain instead of snow, etc) is about climate change, not real estate prices. "Jet across the pond" won't help the East or Europe stay ok.

[Kevo]

Benny, come rent Adironrider's house in Victor this winter.

[NWFlow]

Plus it just sucks ass living through it.

I still think Duluth, MN is the place.

Yep the next big migration is to the upper Midwest.

I like the idea of the UP, but have never been. Loved summers in the Midwest growing up (we were always back in Madison to visit grandparents), but guess winters can be rough

[rideit]

https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...il/M9534178077

The place you're begging for doesn't exist. stick to what you know. do it, pussy.

Where oh where is AlpineZone when we need him most?

[liv2ski]

It will be interesting to see what happens with Climate Catastrophe. I had a dream last night I lived in Nelson BC and I couldn't go skiing in February because it was raining and not snowing.
Climate refugees could be on the move over the next 20 years for sure and that will change everything.

[AdironRider]

Benny, come rent Adironrider's house in Victor this winter.

This has TGR gold potential.

[Harry]

I still think Duluth, MN is the place.

Yep the next big migration is to the upper Midwest.

I left Big Sky last month with $$$$$ in my pocket.

A) loving it here in Northern Wisconsin (hour southeast of Duluth)

B) holy shit real estate arbitrage is incredible. Sold a 1-bd slopeside condo and buying dentist level waterfront house.

I’m in my 60s and slowing down. Doubt I could ski 100+ days a season into my 90s. But I can certainly putt putt around in a pontoon boat at that age. Plus the Nordic skiing here in really really nice. I’m happy I made the move.


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[Ted Striker]

This has TGR gold potential.

This is the true story
of Benny Profane
and six of his "internet friends"
picked to live in a house in the Teton Valley
and have their lives recorded
to find out what happens
when people stop being polite
and start getting real

The Real World TRG

[skaredshtles]

Yep the next big migration is to the upper Midwest.

I like the idea of the UP, but have never been. Loved summers in the Midwest growing up (we were always back in Madison to visit grandparents), but guess winters can be rough

Summers weren't a walk in the park either... at least in MI they weren't.

And the U.P. - nice place to visit... but I sure wouldn't want to live there. YMMV.

[Harry]

This has TGR gold potential.

Especially with the return of BBI to Jackson this winter. We will make Benny’s rental into a frat house.

Sorry AdironRider.....




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[Name Redacted]

This is the true story
of Benny Profane
and six of his "internet friends"
picked to live in a house in the Teton Valley
and have their lives recorded
to find out what happens
when people stop being polite
and start getting real

The Real World TRG

Episode1: BUNNY blows his ACL trying to load the Sublette Chair and has to go home.

[Ted Striker]

Or he decides to stay for the complementary breakfast meats, and makes everybody miserable. Comedy ensues.

[54-46]

Yep the next big migration is to the upper Midwest.

I like the idea of the UP, but have never been. Loved summers in the Midwest growing up (we were always back in Madison to visit grandparents), but guess winters can be rough

Former In-laws live in MI. Great if you love freezing rain and shitty food. Would rather live in Mexico TBH…

[Toadman]

Is he though? I mean, whose to say New England states and their tiny low elevation hills don't also succumb to the climate change. Who the hell wants to stand in an hour and 30 minute long lift line to ski a thousand vert of refrozen man made ice?

WTH do I know anyway? Maybe VT becomes the new mecca of skiing with 600" of blower pow in a mediocre year, and Jackson, WY becomes a wasteland of large empty houses that once commanded 8 figure sums to live in. Just a bunch of deadender powder hounds, long in the tooth, sitting on the porch in 80F temps in January taking a hit of meth, reminiscing about the good old days when it used to snow in Jackson Hole.

[skaredshtles]

Is he though? I mean, whose to say New England states and their tiny low elevation hills don't also succumb to the climate change. Who the hell wants to stand in an hour and 30 minute long lift line to ski a thousand vert of refrozen man made ice?

Hey now... STFU. We're trying to be helpful here.

[CarlMega]

I left Big Sky last month with $$$$$ in my pocket.

I’m in my 60s and slowing down. Doubt I could ski 100+ days a season into my 90s. But I can certainly putt putt around in a pontoon boat at that age. Plus the Nordic skiing here in really really nice. I’m happy I made the move.

I think you are on point. Most of us here have what? 20-30 years left of skiing in us where it is a legit presence in our day to day (winter) life. Climate might not cooperate that long so you'll start to see more of us branch out. I'm hoping for semi-reasonable winters for maybe 15 years. But, fuck it, there are a lot of other interesting things to do in our twilight years. Now, generational minded people - their kids, they're fucked.

[Kevo]

This story isn't surprising, but it is interesting to see the human faces of it. The CA/WA people are stoked on how cheap Boise is, the disabled vets and blue collar people are screwed.

[Benny Profane]

This story isn't surprising, but it is interesting to see the human faces of it. The CA/WA people are stoked on how cheap Boise is, the disabled vets and blue collar people are screwed.

Paul Solman is always great to hear from.

Interesting that the one sale they featured was to a retired SF cop. Just one of a ton of really good pensions and lucrative savings opportunities that California state, municipal, and academic workers walk away with. There's a ton of that comfortable Boomer money flowing around the west with a really nice house sale lump sum added to dive into a cash sale with. The California taxpayer should be proud.

[Meadow Skipper]

Interesting that the one sale they featured was to a retired SF cop. Just one of a ton of really good pensions and lucrative savings opportunities that California state, municipal, and academic workers walk away with. There's a ton of that comfortable Boomer money flowing around the west with a really nice house sale lump sum added to dive into a cash sale with. The California taxpayer should be proud.

Pathetic envy isn’t a good look for you.